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Paul Ryan doesn't think Trump will be the nominee (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +9 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Paul Ryan is a bitch who hates Trump personally. Keep in mind that this is the guy who thought he could torpedo Trump by sabotaging his campaign and then presidency from within. I'm not even that big of a Trump fan. I prefer DeSantis myself, but if it's a choice between Trump and a faggot like Ryan I'll take Orange Man any day.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I still support DeSantis 2024.

I agree if I was forced to pick between only Paul Ryan and Trump then I will be going with the wacky orange man.

Fuck Paul Ryan. DeSantis should clearly state that he does not want or need Ryan's endorsement.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

DeSantis should clearly state that he does not want or need Ryan's endorsement.

I'm less than convinced on this point. One upside to DeSantis is that he might be able to win persuadable voters who were turned off by Trump's style. I know people will say that shouldn't matter and I agree, but it does matter in reality. Ryan is a faggot no doubt, but I'd rather have his wing of the party back DeSantis than some other cuck or the Child Sniffer. I don't think DeSantis would have issues getting the Trump base to back him either way, so as satisfying as it would be watching him tell Ryan to fuck off it would only hurt him IMO.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

In my opinion, a Paul Ryan endorsement is very damaging in terms of appealing to the MAGA base and in terms of winning the rust belt swing states.

I think Paul Ryan is pure electoral poison.

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– xleb2 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I think Paul Ryan is pure electoral poison.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I don't think DeSantis would have issues getting the Trump base to back him either way

If he's going to push investigations into the stolen election, destroy or reform the FBI, take control of the CIA, break up Big Tech, help MAGA populists take over the GOP, and drain the swamp (for real this time) then yeah.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

DeSantis should not be alienating anybody, unlike Trump. That's just smart politics, which Trump lacked because his ego got in the way.

There is nothing wrong with Paul Ryan. He was a good pragmatic fiscal conservative. Trump just was a huge asshole to him so he obviously doesn't like Trump, but it's not like he started it. Trump loves to talk shit about everyone.

The only way the Right is going to win is by building a majority coalition, and that will never happen with all this bullshit purity testing. The sooner Trump gets flushed the sooner we can get back to intelligent tactical and strategic politics and start winning.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

No Republican can win the presidency these days without keeping the MAGA base and winning the rust belt states.

DeSantis will expand the Republican coalition by not turning off suburban voters. DeSantis is smart enough to realize that Paul Ryan is a major liability.

The MAGA base absolutely hates Paul Ryan and he is electoral poison in the rust belt.

Paul Ryan's endorsement is a net loss.

I am fully DeSantis 2024 and even I utterly hate Paul Ryan for how he completely sabotaged Trump's legislative agenda from 2017-2018.

Republicans need to expand the coalition but not include poison like Paul Ryan which repels the base.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I utterly hate Paul Ryan for how he completely sabotaged Trump's legislative agenda from 2017-2018.

How? McCain did? But Ryan? Ryan supported the 1 major legislative accomplishment of the Trump era: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_2017

  • Leading Republicans supported the bill, including President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, and Republicans in Congress, such as:[165] Paul Ryan, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives (R-WI)

  • Speaker Paul Ryan said in November 2017 that they would simplify the tax code so much that 9 in 10 Americans would be able to file their taxes on a postcard.[227] President Donald Trump said on December 13, 2017, that people would be able to file their taxes "on a single, little, beautiful sheet of paper".[227]

  • A group of 137 economists signed an open letter expressing support for the bill; the letter was touted by President Trump, House Speaker Paul Ryan and the Senate Finance Committee as support for the legislation among economists;

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– onetruephilosoraptor 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell completely derailed Trump's immigration, infrastructure and health care legislative agenda.

These two corrupt swamp creatures were content to pass a tax cut bill and call it a day.

With a Republican trifecta from 2017- 2018, the tax cut legislation was the only thing passed.

What a fucking joke.

I am not the biggest Trump fan here but even I wholly despise the GOP establishment leadership.

Mark my words, the MAGA base hates Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell with the intensity of a thousand suns.

Ron DeSantis would be smart to know and understand this dynamic.

He should expand the Republican coalition but he MUST NOT align himself with hated creatures like McCain, Romney, Ryan and McConnell.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

With a Republican trifecta from 2017- 2018, the tax cut legislation was the only thing passed.

Uhh, because of the filibuster they literally couldn't pass anything except budget bills using reconciliation. So a tax cut was the only thing possible.

Trump's immigration, infrastructure and health care legislative agenda.

Excuse me? WHAT? Trump did not have a "infrastructure and health care legislative agenda", maybe you're thinking of the democrats. It was the Democrats that used "infrastructure" as a chant to squeeze pork into, and health care "legislation" only exists to push for socialism.

And as for immigration, the Republicans supported things like building the wall, but couldn't do it because of the filibuster.

Mark my words, the MAGA base hates Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell with the intensity of a thousand suns.

Hard disagree and i don't care anyway. "MAGA", if taken to mean die hard Trump supporters, do not run the Republican party. I don't care about your threats. You'll fall in line and vote for DeSantis, without him kowtowing to your personal vendettas.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If Ron DeSantis adopts your toxic attitude he will lose the primary handedly to Trump.

I am 100 percent for Ron DeSantis 2024 but I understand the core Republican base and the drivel you spewed is a non-starter.

Based on your attitude it is likely you are in a bubble, you probably work in some out of touch profession like finance or law.

You don't understand our rural base one iota.

Thankfully Ron DeSantis is not out of touch with reality like you when it comes to courting MAGA.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– Smith1980 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Well he doesn’t like Trump. So I’m not surprised

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– NoEyesNoGroin 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

DeSantis should be the nominee IMO. Trump had a loud bark and was funny af but a weak bite, whereas DeSantis is the opposite. It will also be good to see if the media tries to do the same to DeSantis as they did to Trump, because if they do it discredits them - boy who cried wolf etc.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

They media will give DeSantis the same treatment they gave Trump. It just won't stick nearly as well. Trump is his own worst enemy in that respect. It was fun watching Trump punch back, but then the conversation was about the drama instead of the great things he was doing and the Dem's willingness to torch the country to spite him. They'll have a much harder time pulling that shit with DeSantis.

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– dekachin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

They media will give DeSantis the same treatment they gave Trump. It just won't stick nearly as well.

Yeah that's the whole point of smart politics: you don't give your enemies any opening to pay a glove on you. Trump was so arrogant he just handed the lib media infinite ammunition to use against him because he loved it when he got attention, even negative attention, from them.

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– MegoThor 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The media would give DeSantis the exact same treatment they gave Trump. Trying to play nice with these traitors isn’t going to work.

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– TentElephant 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Girondins are the worst.

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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Does she have a book to promote? When is sister girl going to come clean? Everyone knows there's a rainbow in his closet.

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– Kaarous 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't think he will be either. I think the DNC will either contrive an excuse to arrest him, or else just have him killed outright.

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