Okay, now I fucking know the whole DeSantis thing is a fucking astroturf.
100%, this is an effort to create a contentious primary that basically breaks the party and gives the election to the Dems because of Republican infighting.
It's a clever move, and some of you idiots absolutely bought it.
Trump has no chance in 2024. He's probably the only person in existence that even Biden would poll favorably against. Trump was funny and had some great tweets, but normie moderates hate him and think he's vulgar/mean. They won't vote for him no matter what. He would be fighting an uphill battle the entire time.
And while I liked his bants, on policy he was just a generic republican with a few flaws. DeSantis would be a more consistent conservative.
I also don't trust Trump to put the conservative movement before himself. He's an egomaniac who would gladly take the whole Right down with him. He damaged the right on 1/6 and fucked us over in the GA special elections, which resulted in the Democrats ramming trillions in extra spending the last few years. Fuck him for that. And instead of moving on, he is STILL whining about the election. No thanks.
Trump would win handily if the votes were counted honestly. But he didn't properly contest the election so anyone actually talking about 2024 like it matters is retarded.
Trump would win handily if the votes were counted honestly.
The best evidence that we have is that if all of the invalid ballots were discarded, Trump would have squeaked out a victory.
But he didn't properly contest the election so anyone actually talking about 2024 like it matters is retarded.
Trump didn't even have a legal team ready prior to the election and had to scramble to assemble one after the fact. That allowed grifters like Sidney Powell to swoop in and fuck everything up.
Oh yay another dumb Californian here to tell us he’s still the stupidest fuck in the room.
I also don't trust Trump to put the conservative movement before himself. He's an egomaniac who would gladly take the whole Right down with him. He damaged the right on 1/6 and fucked us over in the GA special elections, which resulted in the Democrats ramming trillions in extra spending the last few years. Fuck him for that. And instead of moving on, he is STILL whining about the election. No thanks.
How do you have to get everything so spectacularly wrong?
Dude, he almost won in 2020 with the worst economy in human history, with a raging pandemic, billionaires putting in hundreds of millions against him, the media stacked against him, and massive electoral shenanigans.
That was when Biden was less senile and could hide in his basement, and hadn't made the total mess. What makes you think that Trump would be situated worse now?
Oh right, you'll just say stuff to advocate for your guy.
He's an egomaniac who would gladly take the whole Right down with him.
What makes you think that Trump would be situated worse now?
January 6 and Trump's tantrums about the election the past 1.5 years. There has been absolutely nothing going in Trump's favor since he lost. He just keeps digging his hole deeper because he can't get over it. All he ever does now is petty little revenge primaries which he mostly loses anyway.
Oh right, you'll just say stuff to advocate for your guy.
I don't have a guy, I have a CAUSE. DeSantis is the frontrunner for me right now because he seems like the best guy to advance my CAUSE of right wing values. If someone better shows up I will gladly switch.
Yes. And that is why there is no other choice.
I would rather go to war than bow down to being held hostage by Trump. If he tries to pull that shit, the fury of 1000 suns will come down on him, and I'll be on the front lines.
All he ever does now is petty little revenge primaries which he mostly loses anyway.
Didn't think you loved Liz Cheney this much. Or Brad Raffensperger who handed over his state to Stacey Abrams.
I don't have a guy, I have a CAUSE. DeSantis is the frontrunner for me right now because he seems like the best guy to advance my CAUSE of right wing values. If someone better shows up I will gladly switch.
The best guy is Trump, as you well know.
I would rather go to war than bow down to being held hostage by Trump. If he tries to pull that shit, the fury of 1000 suns will come down on him, and I'll be on the front lines.
So your vanity is more important to you than your supposed 'cause'. That is exactly the problem.
Not claiming you're a bot, but imagine replying to a comment about this being an astroturfing campaign with nothing but the literal talking points of the astroturfing campaign. Except for the 1/6 Reichstag point almost everything you said could have been said in 2016 when the GOP tried to stop him then. (except that time they made a fatal mistake of leaning on "lol he's just a clown he won't win")
And instead of moving on, he is STILL whining about the election.
Bless him. One of the few pieces of evidence that he's not part of the uniparty gayop. (unless it's one of those really complex 8-dimensional gayops)
Trump gained votes because right wingers like me who did not vote in 2016 came out to vote for him, not because of moderates or swing voters.
Trump got 74m votes. Biden got 81m. It was a super high turnout election, and the people who hated Trump turned out harder. TDS is real. Trump will never win another national election.
Trump gained votes because right wingers like me who did not vote in 2016 came out to vote for him, not because of moderates or swing voters.
Source: trust me, bro. In reality, Trump gained votes from all of the dems key demos; blacks, gays and women. None of those groups are right wing.
It was a super high turnout election, and the people who hated Trump turned out harder.
They didnt, a lot of those votes are fraudulent, but even granting they were real, Biden is polling worse than Trump right now. There's going to be a point where the indoctrination gets overwritten by real world results, and the polls are reflecting that
Dems would love to run against Trump rather than Desantis.
Trump lets them make every election a referendum on Trump instead of the issues.
Think about this for a second.
A 78 year old Trump will be worse than his 2020 campaign. He will be screaming about stolen 2020 on the campaign trail instead of the most important issues of today.
We all know Fox is shit and the left knows Fox supporting DeSantis hurts him.
If the left wanted to run against Trump, this is what they would do. Deflate DeSantis support by having Fox support him.
You are accusing people who prefer DeSantis for falling for a psy-op when people like you have fallen for the Dem psyop of trying to ensure Trump is rhe 2024 nominee.
I would still take DeSantis anyday over Trump.
Trump hasn't learned from his mistakes and he still sucks at personnel selection.
If the left wanted to run against Trump, this is what they would do. Deflate DeSantis support by having Fox support him.
That's the exact opposite of reality. They would rather run against DeSantis because they know that Trump will actually do real damage to them. The absolute stupidity of claiming that getting Fox news to support DeSantis hurts DeSantis is fucking laughable. Most of the right still watches and supports Fox News. GB News, Newsmax, and others are still struggling to gain the attention of traditional conservatives. I garuntee you, most of the regular republicans who vote Trump have never even heard of The Epoch Times
I've said it for years. Trump would be easy to make a deal with. The Saudis figured this out by treating his arrival in SA with military parades, grand tours, and all sorts of Trump official circle-jerking and he was happy as a clam.
The elites fucking hate Trump. I'm not entirely sure why, maybe it's some loyalty with the Clintons, maybe it's some "new money" bigotry, maybe it's because he's too "low class" for them. Whatever it is, these people irrationally despise him more than anything in the world and are still actively trying to destroy him.
You are accusing people who prefer DeSantis for falling for a psy-op when people like you have fallen for the Dem psyop of trying to ensure Trump is rhe 2024 nominee.
I"m accusing people who irrationally want to support a DeSantis run which isn't reasonable, only has negative consequences to the Republicans, and isn't even clear is being considered by DeSantis himself, because you're being played like boomers reading up on the latest QAnon post. Or even some of the Ethno-Nats in here looking gleefully at "Patriot Front" for being "so well organized".
You are getting fucking played.
Trump hasn't learned from his mistakes and he still sucks at personnel selection.
The fact that he mentioned that Sean Hannity stopped speaking to him tells me they are pushing him in the correct direction.
The article does pretty much admit that, though I guess they are claiming a more neutral stance to steal away Fox viewers. I think it's hilariously revealing of Newsmax's "journalism" that this is just second-hand reporting of a NYT article. My favorite line is:
Trump has not hidden his new distaste for Fox News. Shortly after his loss to Joe Biden, Trump blamed the network's negative coverage of his presidency for his 2020 election loss.
Nice of you to wake up and join us after two years, Newsmax.
Okay, now I fucking know the whole DeSantis thing is a fucking astroturf.
100%, this is an effort to create a contentious primary that basically breaks the party and gives the election to the Dems because of Republican infighting.
It's a clever move, and some of you idiots absolutely bought it.
Yeah the second Fox backs someone that should be a giant red warning sign that they are part of the problem.
In other news, Fox News has just declared the State of Arizona for "whomever the Democrats are running in 2024".
Trump has no chance in 2024. He's probably the only person in existence that even Biden would poll favorably against. Trump was funny and had some great tweets, but normie moderates hate him and think he's vulgar/mean. They won't vote for him no matter what. He would be fighting an uphill battle the entire time.
And while I liked his bants, on policy he was just a generic republican with a few flaws. DeSantis would be a more consistent conservative.
I also don't trust Trump to put the conservative movement before himself. He's an egomaniac who would gladly take the whole Right down with him. He damaged the right on 1/6 and fucked us over in the GA special elections, which resulted in the Democrats ramming trillions in extra spending the last few years. Fuck him for that. And instead of moving on, he is STILL whining about the election. No thanks.
Trump would win handily if the votes were counted honestly. But he didn't properly contest the election so anyone actually talking about 2024 like it matters is retarded.
The best evidence that we have is that if all of the invalid ballots were discarded, Trump would have squeaked out a victory.
Trump didn't even have a legal team ready prior to the election and had to scramble to assemble one after the fact. That allowed grifters like Sidney Powell to swoop in and fuck everything up.
Sorry, but this is pure delusion.
Wow, you’re a fraud denier on top of being a vaxtard lol
He would have handily won with electors. Probably another 330.
But that's the value of committing fraud in very specific counties, in very specific states, to get very specific results.
Well if there was so much fraud and Trump couldn't prove it despite getting $100 million in donations, he is too incompetent.
Oh yay another dumb Californian here to tell us he’s still the stupidest fuck in the room.
How do you have to get everything so spectacularly wrong?
Dude, he almost won in 2020 with the worst economy in human history, with a raging pandemic, billionaires putting in hundreds of millions against him, the media stacked against him, and massive electoral shenanigans.
That was when Biden was less senile and could hide in his basement, and hadn't made the total mess. What makes you think that Trump would be situated worse now?
Oh right, you'll just say stuff to advocate for your guy.
Yes. And that is why there is no other choice.
January 6 and Trump's tantrums about the election the past 1.5 years. There has been absolutely nothing going in Trump's favor since he lost. He just keeps digging his hole deeper because he can't get over it. All he ever does now is petty little revenge primaries which he mostly loses anyway.
I don't have a guy, I have a CAUSE. DeSantis is the frontrunner for me right now because he seems like the best guy to advance my CAUSE of right wing values. If someone better shows up I will gladly switch.
I would rather go to war than bow down to being held hostage by Trump. If he tries to pull that shit, the fury of 1000 suns will come down on him, and I'll be on the front lines.
Literal nothing-burger.
Didn't think you loved Liz Cheney this much. Or Brad Raffensperger who handed over his state to Stacey Abrams.
The best guy is Trump, as you well know.
So your vanity is more important to you than your supposed 'cause'. That is exactly the problem.
Not claiming you're a bot, but imagine replying to a comment about this being an astroturfing campaign with nothing but the literal talking points of the astroturfing campaign. Except for the 1/6 Reichstag point almost everything you said could have been said in 2016 when the GOP tried to stop him then. (except that time they made a fatal mistake of leaning on "lol he's just a clown he won't win")
Bless him. One of the few pieces of evidence that he's not part of the uniparty gayop. (unless it's one of those really complex 8-dimensional gayops)
Seriously, the number of neo-liberal talking points here is startling.
I'm not saying Dekachin is a shill, but man he sounds like one.
Friendly reminder that Trump gained millions of votes in his second run and broke records for votes gotten by any sitting president, ever.
Trump gained votes because right wingers like me who did not vote in 2016 came out to vote for him, not because of moderates or swing voters.
Trump got 74m votes. Biden got 81m. It was a super high turnout election, and the people who hated Trump turned out harder. TDS is real. Trump will never win another national election.
Source: trust me, bro. In reality, Trump gained votes from all of the dems key demos; blacks, gays and women. None of those groups are right wing.
They didnt, a lot of those votes are fraudulent, but even granting they were real, Biden is polling worse than Trump right now. There's going to be a point where the indoctrination gets overwritten by real world results, and the polls are reflecting that
Dems would love to run against Trump rather than Desantis.
Trump lets them make every election a referendum on Trump instead of the issues.
Think about this for a second.
A 78 year old Trump will be worse than his 2020 campaign. He will be screaming about stolen 2020 on the campaign trail instead of the most important issues of today.
We all know Fox is shit and the left knows Fox supporting DeSantis hurts him.
If the left wanted to run against Trump, this is what they would do. Deflate DeSantis support by having Fox support him.
You are accusing people who prefer DeSantis for falling for a psy-op when people like you have fallen for the Dem psyop of trying to ensure Trump is rhe 2024 nominee.
I would still take DeSantis anyday over Trump.
Trump hasn't learned from his mistakes and he still sucks at personnel selection.
That's the exact opposite of reality. They would rather run against DeSantis because they know that Trump will actually do real damage to them. The absolute stupidity of claiming that getting Fox news to support DeSantis hurts DeSantis is fucking laughable. Most of the right still watches and supports Fox News. GB News, Newsmax, and others are still struggling to gain the attention of traditional conservatives. I garuntee you, most of the regular republicans who vote Trump have never even heard of The Epoch Times
I've said it for years. Trump would be easy to make a deal with. The Saudis figured this out by treating his arrival in SA with military parades, grand tours, and all sorts of Trump official circle-jerking and he was happy as a clam.
The elites fucking hate Trump. I'm not entirely sure why, maybe it's some loyalty with the Clintons, maybe it's some "new money" bigotry, maybe it's because he's too "low class" for them. Whatever it is, these people irrationally despise him more than anything in the world and are still actively trying to destroy him.
I"m accusing people who irrationally want to support a DeSantis run which isn't reasonable, only has negative consequences to the Republicans, and isn't even clear is being considered by DeSantis himself, because you're being played like boomers reading up on the latest QAnon post. Or even some of the Ethno-Nats in here looking gleefully at "Patriot Front" for being "so well organized".
You are getting fucking played.
The fact that he mentioned that Sean Hannity stopped speaking to him tells me they are pushing him in the correct direction.
The article does pretty much admit that, though I guess they are claiming a more neutral stance to steal away Fox viewers. I think it's hilariously revealing of Newsmax's "journalism" that this is just second-hand reporting of a NYT article. My favorite line is:
Nice of you to wake up and join us after two years, Newsmax.
Like with GB News, they are trying their best.
I was blown away when one of their presenters told Dave Rubin, he'd never heard of the term Deadnaming.
I literally yelled out, "WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME, BITCH"