Governor DeSantis is an empty suit, Trump or bust!
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Impy big mad.
If marriage is officially a business contract, then it should have financial penalties for the person who breaches it.
70% of divorces are filed by women.
Why is it only a contract when it serves their ends? It has none of the scrutiny a business or employment contract would go under.
Refusing to change it because of this is bullshit.
A divorce is not a 'breaking' of the contract, it is a legally permissible way of ending it. Jesus Christ man. Get over your obsession.
Go start a contract with Verizon and see if they'll pay you for early termination.
It's weird how marriage is a contract when it suits women, and something else when it doesn't.
If marriage is a contract then it should have a maximum term before renewal.
Yes, genius, that's why divorce is provided for by law. If the law said that a Verizon contract can be terminated early, then that would be a possibility.
It's always a contract, but feel free to continue bashing the Nazi gender anyway.
"Marriages should have a maximum term because I hate women."
Law that only favors women, of course. But that's perfectly fine. Let's make it so we have to pay Amazon to let us cancel Prime too. Oh, but that's different because Amazon is a faceless corporate and we haven't got blinders on when they're being evil.
Well, if you had to renew it every year, divorce wouldn't work anymore. You'd just have to pay off the other party an estimate of their expenses for the rest of the contract and you'd be free. It sounds like a far superior system to "I've been here 5 years slowly grinding him down to want to kill himself and now I want my cash and prizes.". It would put an effective cap on what they can gain from ripping people off. I would also suggest making divorce records public and searchable, so the serial divorcees get caught.
You're just whining at this point.
You're saying he should MAN UP like REAL MAN? Like a MANLY MAN?
He said before renewal. Not saying I agree, but he made more sense that what you're trying to imply he said.
He's basically right on this one.
Yeah, I agree he's certainly not as perfect as people claim, I'm sure there's a good argument here for...
Oh no, it' retarded.
Seriously. I say this as someone who voted for Trump, and will vote for him again assuming he makes it to the general, but that's such a bad take. Trump was certainly better than the last few jackasses, and he'll make the right people seethe again, but he also made a shit ton of mistakes. "Trump or bust" is just...ewww. It's slightly less normie than "vote blue no matter who," but that's about it.
Honest question, what did Trump do that was so amazing compared to DeSantis, and what do you think Trump will do going forward, that DeSantis wouldn't? And I'm not a huge DeSantis fan either, for the record. I think either Trump or DeSantis would be an improvement over the status quo, and that's about it.
As far as I am aware, Trump has a 100% record of not supporting anything the NOW wanted.
That's good enough for me.
So you're basically a jew. Because it sounds a lot like you're supporting Trump.
They're groomed into being women's puppets from an early age by the school system.
Some people can unlearn the conditioning, but a lot can't.
Dammit, you're kind of right again. I still think the angle you're coming from is massively skewed, nonsensical, and in fact somewhat psychotic; but you've once again landed on correct anyway.
This thread is a retard magnet...and I love it.
Saw that coming when the thread was showing with 0 upvotes and 74 replies. Ratios like that are always a sign of drama llamas.
The law around marriage is fucked beyond believe all around western civilisation.
But let's be realistic here: There's no politician that actually wants to be elected that'll be the one to end the insanity. Why? Because you'd alienate almost all women immediatly. The number of women that see marriage law, alimony and all that as the cancer on society that it is, is so small and even to these women DeSantis is still the best choice.
You don't really think Trump wouldn't have vetoed this law, do you? You need almost absolute power and the backing of all institutions involved to change marriage into something that's not 100% for the benefit of women.
Trump = bust
That 'depraved narcissist' still did a better job than any other self-proclaimed conservative.
For once we agree. Tradcucks are useless.
No, DeSantis is vastly superior to Trump in terms of effectiveness.
He's a useless cuckold who yet again answers to the NOW. Something you assured me was a conspiracy theory.
Maybe it's time to admit who your masters truly are.
I can't stop you from being crazy and believing that DeSantis is at the command of NOW.
I can laugh at you though.
The NOW is an organization that supports the Democratic Party. There's no reason to compromise with them, their support for anything should automatically make it fail.
Even disregarding feminist control of our leaders and all the other lovely conspiracies that totally aren't true : He vetoed a bill supported by his party because Democrats said so.
So does Mitt Romney, and nobody's suggesting that cuckold should be President.
He vetoed a bill because it violated the Constitution.
Which you care nothing about, of course, because you just want to hate on women.
You're going to lose, and you're going to die alone, defeated, broken and miserable.
DeSantis sells out his party to back the NOW. Fucking RINO cuckold.
u/OneTruePhilosoraptor
Only CUCKOLDS uphold the Constitution. FUCK HIM! I bet he is BLACKMAILED and BRIBED by the womens!
I'm glad they finally admitted marriage is a piss-poor business contract.
That means it should be subject to contract and business law, which would invalidate all marriages instantly based on the fact that there is no punishment for the party that breaks the contract.
Wait, you just figured out that marriage is a contract?
If anyone else handed you such a shitty contract, every consumer rights group in existence would be rioting.
End marriage once and for all, it's hurt enough people.
End a millennia old institution, because Impy got his feelings hurt.
Because he's a genetic dead end, everyone else should be as well.
How many male lives do you think it has destroyed, relative to those who it has improved? Double? Triple? 10x? 100x?
Man, it's as if you took feminism, switched the words from 'female' to 'male' and decided to post the exact same whining.
If you have nothing to do with the Nazi gender, I really do wonder why you are thinking about it 24/7.
You think Trump would have signed this bill if Congress passed it while he was President?
Ivanka and Jared Kushner would have nipped it in the bud instantly.
I am not going to say DeSantis is perfect but I still think he would generally be more effective at governing than Trump.
I haven't forgotten Operation Warpspeed, Trump supporting Fauci and the lockdowns, his lack of cracking down on BLM riots, Trump's shitty Platinum Plan, his banning of bump stocks and making Juneteenth a holiday.
I really would rather not have Ivanka and Kushner back in the White House again directing national policy.
There are some potential concerns in supporting DeSantis like figuring out what his stance is on economic issues like tariffs on China and what his foreign policy would be when it comes to ending wars in the Middle East but thinking he is a NOW puppet over this one bill is not it though.
You mean Trump?
Trump limp dicked us in Afghanistan and began to pull out, guaranteeing that Biden would have cover to abandon Afghanistan under any circumstances. Nobody believes that Trump would have reversed his policy as he lied to claim he would have when Biden botched the pullout.
Trump was Erdogan's bitch in Syria. Massive cuck status. Fucking embarrassing. Did you read that letter he posted to Erdogan? It looked like a fucking child wrote it.
Trump pushed for MORE wasteful stimmy money against the wishes of Republicans in Congress, to selfishly try to get more clout for himself. He's just as fiscally irresponsible as the libtards with their money guns.
Trump LOST to Joe "senile hair sniffer" Biden, the worst candidate in political history, and then because he's an immature little bitch, Trump tanked the Georgia special election and helped the Democrats gets control of the Senate, which is what enabled Joe Biden and the Democrats to blow out trillions in additional spending, which caused the current inflation crisis.
So fuck Trump. He was great at owning the libs on twitter, but he's absolute dogshit when it comes to winning elections and being a smart political candidate.
Also fuck Liz Cheney, even though I am 100% against Trump ever running again, I'm not going to be a fucking traitor about it. Liz Cheney is a traitor and I'll cheer when her ACTUAL RINO ass gets primaried. You NEVER side with the enemy in an internal party dispute. Cheney sold out the whole Right because of her stupid little vendetta against Trump. She was a useful idiot for the Democrats.
If Trump loses the primary, he'll run 3rd party and make sure that DeSantis loses.
DeSantis is also very uncharismatic and boring.
I would prefer DeSantis, but Trump is the only choice if you actually want to win.
I don't have much faith in either of them, but DeSantis's lack of charisma may actually be an advantage. It makes it harder for him to pretend to do stuff and puts more pressure on him to deliver meaningful policy victories.
No, he won't. Trump has been placed in similar positions multiple times and backed down. Trump knows that if he did what you suggest, he would be absolutely hated by the majority of the Right, and we would feed him to the Democrats. Trump knows he needs to at least pretend to be a team player to retain the protection of the base.
Besides, by your logic, it would mean Trump holds the Republican party hostage. I would rather vote against him on principle than set a precedent that would allow that dynamic to take root. I refuse to be held hostage by anyone. I think the truth is that over time, enthusiasm for Trump has greatly faded, and we still have 2 more years for it to fade more.
You obviously haven't watched his speeches and press conferences from this year. He's better than most politicians, and certainly better than anything the Democrats have.
You can't compare him to Trump 1:1 because Trump is an entertainer and a showman, but pretty shit as a politician. Trump should have a television show on Fox right after Tucker. He should be on TV. He shouldn't be a politician.
Trump is the only choice if we want to lose. If you lose to Joe Biden, you would lose to anyone.
And he doesn't care. He was the only candidate in 2016 to not promise to run as a third party. He definitely would just to screw over the people who scorned him.
Yup.
Maybe, but he is very, very boring. I like his speeches because of the content, but the delivery is dull as it gets.
No, that's idiotic. There's more than just the candidate. 2020 was a uniquely bad year for an incumbent.
Trump 100% does. That is why he was very subdued in his last weeks in office after 1/6. He was and still is afraid of criminal indictment if he gets too far out of line. The Right protects him. If he backstabs us openly like you suggest, we will feed him to the Left. We would never allow him to hold us hostage. He would be almost-universally hated outside a small number of hard core fans.
Name 1 politician active today who does it better. You can't compare everyone to Trump. Trump is practically doing stand up comedy when he gives a speech.
Not a credible threat, and besides, the amount of damage done to the right would be vastly greater than the damage done to the left.
Any politician in the past was better. Obama, Clinton, even Bush 43.
hence why I wrote "Name 1 politician active today who does it better."
Uh, he did that about 189 times while he was in office. Then he ended with his grand finale by stabbing his remaining (retarded) supporters in the back. And yet stupid people still go for the shabbos goy. This level of stupidity is one of the main reasons I support global depopulation.
Trump is just one of the choices if you want the jews to win. DeSantis would be a jew win too. So would biden. In fact, if you vote for any candidate on the ballot, they would be a win for jews.
Trump is a fucking loser who lost to a senile old hair sniffer - the weakest opponent in electoral history - and then he spent the last 1.5 years crying about it and not moving on. Even before he lost, Trump was a fucking clown all throughout 2020, saying dumb shit on almost a daily basis. Trump also shares some of the blame for the disastrous and cowardly abandonment of Afghanistan, which he initiated against strong opposition from Republicans. Trump also wanted to waste taxpayer money like a drunken sailor on COVID "stimulus", just like Biden, against going against conservatives on this issue.
Trump is the only candidate that the Democrats could possibly beat in 2024. He is toxic, and a large portion of swing voters will absolutely not vote for him no matter what.
DeSantis is the best option we have right now. If another one comes along, great, but if the election was held tomorrow, every rational right winger would back DeSantis, and in DeSantis vs Trump it's a no brainer. My #2 after DeSantis would be Rand Paul.
All the legislature has to do is insert a provision saying "this law is not retroactive" and pass it again, and Desantis won't veto it.
This isn't even a political hot button issue, it's just alimony.
Withdrawing from Afghanistan is the only good thing Biden did (even though he managed to fuck up the actual process). There was zero reason for the US to be over there for going 20 fucking years.
I disagree. The US needed to be over there to punish the Taliban for 9/11 and to suppress and tie up terrorist resources.
By 2019, the US troop footprint & expense was so small that we could have maintained at that level for another 20 years easily, and by that point Afghanistan culture finally would have reached a point of being self-sustaining against the Taliban.
For the record, though, I'm against Western cultural imperialism, and I would have reformed the US effort in Afghanistan to accurately reflect the political will of Afghan men, and let them have a Constitution based on Sharia law. If we did that, the Taliban would not have had any power base, since they'd already have the society they wanted.
Punishment is a foolish, moralistic, idealist concern. Foreign policy, especially wars, should come down to what's in our interest.
Nevertheless, if punishment is your desire, it would what have made more sense and been far less costly to punish the intelligence organizations and military. The US created the terrorists in the first place. The CIA trained Bin Laden. Where is their punishment?
I don't buy that. The US made zero "cultural progress" in 20 years. What good is another 20? 2x0=0.
So you wanted to make Afghanistan into another Saudi Arabia, basically? I don't see how that's helpful.
The problem is that Bush and his neocon friends tried to impose Jeffersonian democracy in Afghanistan, which wasn't really in our interest. No one wanted to face the fact that those "poor and innocent" civilians hate us just as much as the terrorists, and there was no solution to the Afghanistan problem that didn't deal with the terrorist sympathizing population. Letting those animals choose their own government leads to a terrorist regime. The Taliban is exactly what those goat fuckers want.
Since genociding that hateful population wasn't a realistic option we should have installed a civilized dictator that was willing to torture Islamists to death to stay in power. Think Mubarak if Mubarak had balls when shit got rough.
So basically try the Iranian strategy but hope it works better this time?
Yes, but with one change: Stand by them when times get tough like Russia and China instead of stabbing them in the back like our politicians. But thinking about it that won't ever happen either. We're just too squeamish to stand by our dictators when they do what's necessary. So maybe there are no good options. I get that you're saying we should stay out of foreign adventures and you're correct, but for all of Bush 43's fuckups he pretty much inherited 9/11. There's no realistic timeline where he does nothing in response. So the question becomes how he should have handled it.
The US has stood by many a dictator. It is a bit harder to do when it's LARPing as a benevolent liberator. People aren't falling for that shit anymore so it's become harder to export its ideals.
Not at all. It's called "deterrence". America's next enemy will think twice if it sees how we fucked up the Taliban. Conversely America's enemies will be encouraged by a show of weakness, just as Putin began to build up to attack Ukraine shortly after Biden cucked out of Afghanistan.
It is in our long term interest to punish and deter our enemies. To make an example out of them.
False and false. That's just conspiracy theory nonsense. Nobody even alleges that the CIA "trained" Bin Laden. Some fools have argued that US support to the mujahadeen meant that some arms tricked down to Bin Laden, but that have made these assertions completely without any proof, and these claims have been refuted at length by numerous sources in a position to know, as well as by Bin Laden himself. Foreign fighters like Bin Laden only represented about 1% of the total rebel forces in Afghanistan, and none of the aid funneled through Pakistan (NONE came direct from the CIA) went to them.
We did not make 0. It takes time for new generations to grow up in the new system. After 40 years, you'd have nearly the whole fighting age population growing up under a system normalized to western rights. It would have meant that men would have been willing to fight for women, as both their wives and their daughters would be at stake. 20 years was not enough for that.
If that's what the Afghani people want, it isn't our place to dictate their culture to them. Our only objective should have been "let's create a stable system that reflects their cultural values, BUT WITHOUT TERRORISM" and that's it.
LOL. The US military, the one with the biggest budget in the world, couldn't defeat a bunch of inbred goatfuckers in 20 years. How is that intimidating anyone?
"The CIA investigated the CIA and concluded the CIA did nothing wrong."
Yes "we" did. The only thing to show that the US was ever there are all the advanced weapons and technology we left behind.
The "western rights" that you are talking about sap the will of the population. They haven't successfully been exported anywhere since, IIRC, arguably the Korean War. No one wants what we are selling anymore, and why would they? The US is a dysfunctional mess of any oligarchy.
You say this yet for "some reason" you keep finding yourself defending US cultural imperialism at the point of a gun, very peculiar.
The US military did, in fact, defeat the Taliban, consistently, many times. The US military is not able to kill an "idea" such as the hard core islamist beliefs the Taliban embodied, unless you allow it to just genocide everyone, which is a political limitation, not a military one.
If Biden had said in August 2021 "you know what, fuck this, go fuck up the Taliban and push them back into their caves", the US military 100% could have done it.
None of my sources/research were based on CIA sources. It was everyone in the (other parts of) government, historians and researchers, and even people in the mujahadeen & bin laden himself.
Huh? Japan. West Germany. Italy. Korea. Taiwan. All those countries got absorbed into Western "liberal democracy" standards. It has been successful in almost all cases, just not in muslim countries for the obvious reasons of total incompatibility.
Taiwan is the only one I overlooked. The rest were either part of WWII fallout or shortly after. The US has also failed at exporting libdem in several cases in Latin America. It's even failed in Ukraine. It's not just Muslim countries. People have started to notice that the US bombs the shit out of places, installs dictators, and then acts like it actually cares about any of these people so it's harder to sell that bull shit. The cracks in our system have been starting to show so people aren't believing it anymore even domestically.
Dude, the Democrats are saying that Biden - with his moderate persona - was the only one who could have beaten Trump. In the worst economic depression since 1930, with a media and billionaire class in the tank against him like no other, and a once-in-a-century pandemic that allowed the senile idiot to hide in his basement.
And still he almost pulled it off. Trump's performance in 2020 was impressive.
Yes, he really needs to shut up about the so called stolen election.
Conservatives believe that Goldman Sachs needs a tax cuts, while ordinary people need to be taxed more (Rick Scott). They are jokes. Trump was right. And if Cocaine Mitch had actually moved on giving ordinary people checks, he may have won.
I have Strange New Respect for Rand Paul due to his foreign policy views and his opposition to the Disinformation Board (and at the same time am surprised that you support him, given Ukraine). But let's be real here. A guy with negative charisma and a dead ferret on his head dis not going to be elected President. I wish he would be. But he won't. He also seems to have principles, which is a major weakness for a presidential candidate.
The Democrat elites knew Biden was shit. The reason they put him up was
to stop Bernie, who the Democrat elites actually fear. But pretty much anyone else would have won against Trump, including losers like Kamala Harris, simply by being "not Trump".
Because Biden was an easily controllable puppet they could back door their far left agenda through.
Only in the context of all of his fuck-ups. Any other mainstream Republican would have coasted to an easy victory.
This has damaged him a lot. If he had conceded and went on a charm offensive, I might have given him a second chance. But since he acted like a child since he lost, it just confirms that a lot of his critics are right, and now that he isn't an incumbent, I'm not stuck having to support him anymore. It's just so tiresome seeing him constantly pick losing battles (because he fights every battle, even obvious baited traps) and make unforced errors.
That's false, and a Democrat talking point. Rick Scott is correct that everyone should pay taxes. If half of Americans don't pay any taxes at all, which is the trend, then we will have a permanent class of Democrat-voting "takers" who never complain about taxes because they don't pay any.
And idk why you want to bring up "Goldman Sachs". Republicans never advocate for special tax benefits for Goldman Sachs. They want a simplified tax system that is more fair, without all the bullshit care-outs and subsidies. Government should not play favorites or pick winners.
That's your socialism showing. Thank God Americans aren't like you in that regard. I don't want to live in some shitty socialist country where government is mommy & daddy. Freedom can never truly exist in a socialist country. Consolidation of power in the central government is an inherent evil.
I advocated for and supported Paul in his opposition to the $40B Ukraine slush fund, because everything Paul was saying about it was true. And that is with me still wanting to nut punch Russia over the invasion. It was wasteful, pork barrel spending with huge slush funds for Biden, the State Dept, and USAID that should never have been part of it. Only like $10B was even for Ukraine military aid.
I don't like Rand Paul's "isolationist" attitude because it is naive, but he is second to none when it comes to the fight against socialism. As long as Rand Paul would not betray Taiwan and kowtow to China, I'd be 100% happy with him.
Joe Biden is that + he sniffs little girls, and he got elected. I want another Ronald Reagan to show up and make this easy, but you have to play the hand you're dealt. I think the R lineup, as imperfect as it is, is still much better than the D lineup now. People like Harris, Beta O Rourke, and Buttgeig are just absolute jokes.
You're just engaging in polemic. You have no idea who would or would not have won.
No Republican could have won in a year when the economy declined by 30%.
That's absurd. If you pay $1 in taxes, you won't complain about taxes either, because $1 is not worth complaining about. At the end of the day, you want to soak the poor to pay off the rich, and that's quite reprehensible (though I know you support it not because you're a bad person, but because you're a blind partisan).
Sure. But when they hand out $1.5 trillion to Goldman Sachs and others who... desperately need it, they're not on the right path. Particularly whhen Goldman Sachs then turns around and screws the right with its absurd diversity demands.
Well, you lost because you regarded giving people the vast sum of $800 as 'socialism'. Which of course has nothing to do with socialism.
That is strange. I thought you'd be a big supporter of the $40 billion slush fund.
I mean, you act like it's some sort of moral commitment to Taiwan, rather than hard-nosed Realpolitik of trying to prevent the influence of China from spreading. It is not betrayal to not defend Taiwan (though I hope the US does), because princes break their word when it is not in their interests, and Taiwan knows that full well.
You have to correct for your own bias on that. Harris is unpopular with everyone. The other two, I am not sure.
It didn't decline by 30%. US GDP was only -3.49% for 2020.
Now you're just lying to straw man me. Why the fuck do I care about helping "the rich"? I just want a fair tax system, where losers are not subsidized, and winners are not punished. If you are a poor loser, you should be incentivized to go work to improve your position in life, instead of whining to government to take care of you. I don't want to live in a nation full of useless dead weight who contribute nothing and then sit on twitter and reddit all day demanding communism.
What are you talking about? The Republicans bowed down to all the spending in 2020, albeit reluctantly, precisely because they feared losing votes. That's not why they lost.
I made a post in KIA2 on Reddit criticizing it and linking Rand Paul's denunciation of it. Maybe you were already banned by then, idk. I can't link it now because I don't have access to the sub. I can be against Russia but also in favor of fiscal responsibility.
It is a moral imperative. Americans are (or were) raised to believe that we stand at the tip of the spear to defend freedom and democracy against the evils of communist aggression. You might remember the Cold War, which was still in full swing when I was a child growing up in the 80s.
You think Americans have no principles, and well, the libs don't, but most normal Americans do. And it is still 100% in America's best interests to defend Taiwan to prevent aggression from a resurgent CCP empire even from a realpolitik perspective, but there is also a moral, principled component to it as well. The principles will bring the Right, the emotional virtue signal "feels" will bring the Left.
Ah, so you're a supporter of nazis torturing and murdering ethnic Russians.
lol Putin aint gonna fuck you, bro
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On the contrary, plenty of us demand that he not let it go. It's one of the few issues I care deeply about. I voted for Trump in 2020 because of his shining a light on the Deep State and refusing to cooperate with the CIA, State, and the GOP. Also his "mean" tweets.
If he "moves on" it tells me he's another fake politician who decided to take one for the uniparty. He needs to whine, bitch, and flip the tables.
SHUT.
IT.
DOWN.
Now can I say he'll actually be effective against them when he gets back in? Sadly no, not if judging by past performance. He might even be stupid enough to put Barr in charge of the investigation. But I do think he is out for revenge and has a narcissistic personal motivation, which is more motivation than DeSantis has. With that guy you're literally abbreviating his name as DS. I'm going to take that as a sign.
I can't disagree with you that a lot of traditional voter blocs like muh suburban women will vote whoever looks more shiny and "electable", but I think people like me are a significant bloc for him. Most of the time we just don't vote at all. So if you mean his whining is bad from a tactical perspective, I think it's probably a wash.
not saying this to insult you, but people like you are a small minority, and the bulk of voters think you're crazy. making you "the base" is a 1 way ticket to permanent minority status.