Governor DeSantis is an empty suit, Trump or bust!
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Trump is a fucking loser who lost to a senile old hair sniffer - the weakest opponent in electoral history - and then he spent the last 1.5 years crying about it and not moving on. Even before he lost, Trump was a fucking clown all throughout 2020, saying dumb shit on almost a daily basis. Trump also shares some of the blame for the disastrous and cowardly abandonment of Afghanistan, which he initiated against strong opposition from Republicans. Trump also wanted to waste taxpayer money like a drunken sailor on COVID "stimulus", just like Biden, against going against conservatives on this issue.
Trump is the only candidate that the Democrats could possibly beat in 2024. He is toxic, and a large portion of swing voters will absolutely not vote for him no matter what.
DeSantis is the best option we have right now. If another one comes along, great, but if the election was held tomorrow, every rational right winger would back DeSantis, and in DeSantis vs Trump it's a no brainer. My #2 after DeSantis would be Rand Paul.
All the legislature has to do is insert a provision saying "this law is not retroactive" and pass it again, and Desantis won't veto it.
This isn't even a political hot button issue, it's just alimony.
Withdrawing from Afghanistan is the only good thing Biden did (even though he managed to fuck up the actual process). There was zero reason for the US to be over there for going 20 fucking years.
I disagree. The US needed to be over there to punish the Taliban for 9/11 and to suppress and tie up terrorist resources.
By 2019, the US troop footprint & expense was so small that we could have maintained at that level for another 20 years easily, and by that point Afghanistan culture finally would have reached a point of being self-sustaining against the Taliban.
For the record, though, I'm against Western cultural imperialism, and I would have reformed the US effort in Afghanistan to accurately reflect the political will of Afghan men, and let them have a Constitution based on Sharia law. If we did that, the Taliban would not have had any power base, since they'd already have the society they wanted.
Punishment is a foolish, moralistic, idealist concern. Foreign policy, especially wars, should come down to what's in our interest.
Nevertheless, if punishment is your desire, it would what have made more sense and been far less costly to punish the intelligence organizations and military. The US created the terrorists in the first place. The CIA trained Bin Laden. Where is their punishment?
I don't buy that. The US made zero "cultural progress" in 20 years. What good is another 20? 2x0=0.
So you wanted to make Afghanistan into another Saudi Arabia, basically? I don't see how that's helpful.
The problem is that Bush and his neocon friends tried to impose Jeffersonian democracy in Afghanistan, which wasn't really in our interest. No one wanted to face the fact that those "poor and innocent" civilians hate us just as much as the terrorists, and there was no solution to the Afghanistan problem that didn't deal with the terrorist sympathizing population. Letting those animals choose their own government leads to a terrorist regime. The Taliban is exactly what those goat fuckers want.
Since genociding that hateful population wasn't a realistic option we should have installed a civilized dictator that was willing to torture Islamists to death to stay in power. Think Mubarak if Mubarak had balls when shit got rough.
Not at all. It's called "deterrence". America's next enemy will think twice if it sees how we fucked up the Taliban. Conversely America's enemies will be encouraged by a show of weakness, just as Putin began to build up to attack Ukraine shortly after Biden cucked out of Afghanistan.
It is in our long term interest to punish and deter our enemies. To make an example out of them.
False and false. That's just conspiracy theory nonsense. Nobody even alleges that the CIA "trained" Bin Laden. Some fools have argued that US support to the mujahadeen meant that some arms tricked down to Bin Laden, but that have made these assertions completely without any proof, and these claims have been refuted at length by numerous sources in a position to know, as well as by Bin Laden himself. Foreign fighters like Bin Laden only represented about 1% of the total rebel forces in Afghanistan, and none of the aid funneled through Pakistan (NONE came direct from the CIA) went to them.
We did not make 0. It takes time for new generations to grow up in the new system. After 40 years, you'd have nearly the whole fighting age population growing up under a system normalized to western rights. It would have meant that men would have been willing to fight for women, as both their wives and their daughters would be at stake. 20 years was not enough for that.
If that's what the Afghani people want, it isn't our place to dictate their culture to them. Our only objective should have been "let's create a stable system that reflects their cultural values, BUT WITHOUT TERRORISM" and that's it.
Dude, the Democrats are saying that Biden - with his moderate persona - was the only one who could have beaten Trump. In the worst economic depression since 1930, with a media and billionaire class in the tank against him like no other, and a once-in-a-century pandemic that allowed the senile idiot to hide in his basement.
And still he almost pulled it off. Trump's performance in 2020 was impressive.
Yes, he really needs to shut up about the so called stolen election.
Conservatives believe that Goldman Sachs needs a tax cuts, while ordinary people need to be taxed more (Rick Scott). They are jokes. Trump was right. And if Cocaine Mitch had actually moved on giving ordinary people checks, he may have won.
I have Strange New Respect for Rand Paul due to his foreign policy views and his opposition to the Disinformation Board (and at the same time am surprised that you support him, given Ukraine). But let's be real here. A guy with negative charisma and a dead ferret on his head dis not going to be elected President. I wish he would be. But he won't. He also seems to have principles, which is a major weakness for a presidential candidate.
The Democrat elites knew Biden was shit. The reason they put him up was
to stop Bernie, who the Democrat elites actually fear. But pretty much anyone else would have won against Trump, including losers like Kamala Harris, simply by being "not Trump".
Because Biden was an easily controllable puppet they could back door their far left agenda through.
Only in the context of all of his fuck-ups. Any other mainstream Republican would have coasted to an easy victory.
This has damaged him a lot. If he had conceded and went on a charm offensive, I might have given him a second chance. But since he acted like a child since he lost, it just confirms that a lot of his critics are right, and now that he isn't an incumbent, I'm not stuck having to support him anymore. It's just so tiresome seeing him constantly pick losing battles (because he fights every battle, even obvious baited traps) and make unforced errors.
That's false, and a Democrat talking point. Rick Scott is correct that everyone should pay taxes. If half of Americans don't pay any taxes at all, which is the trend, then we will have a permanent class of Democrat-voting "takers" who never complain about taxes because they don't pay any.
And idk why you want to bring up "Goldman Sachs". Republicans never advocate for special tax benefits for Goldman Sachs. They want a simplified tax system that is more fair, without all the bullshit care-outs and subsidies. Government should not play favorites or pick winners.
That's your socialism showing. Thank God Americans aren't like you in that regard. I don't want to live in some shitty socialist country where government is mommy & daddy. Freedom can never truly exist in a socialist country. Consolidation of power in the central government is an inherent evil.
I advocated for and supported Paul in his opposition to the $40B Ukraine slush fund, because everything Paul was saying about it was true. And that is with me still wanting to nut punch Russia over the invasion. It was wasteful, pork barrel spending with huge slush funds for Biden, the State Dept, and USAID that should never have been part of it. Only like $10B was even for Ukraine military aid.
I don't like Rand Paul's "isolationist" attitude because it is naive, but he is second to none when it comes to the fight against socialism. As long as Rand Paul would not betray Taiwan and kowtow to China, I'd be 100% happy with him.
Joe Biden is that + he sniffs little girls, and he got elected. I want another Ronald Reagan to show up and make this easy, but you have to play the hand you're dealt. I think the R lineup, as imperfect as it is, is still much better than the D lineup now. People like Harris, Beta O Rourke, and Buttgeig are just absolute jokes.
You're just engaging in polemic. You have no idea who would or would not have won.
No Republican could have won in a year when the economy declined by 30%.
That's absurd. If you pay $1 in taxes, you won't complain about taxes either, because $1 is not worth complaining about. At the end of the day, you want to soak the poor to pay off the rich, and that's quite reprehensible (though I know you support it not because you're a bad person, but because you're a blind partisan).
Sure. But when they hand out $1.5 trillion to Goldman Sachs and others who... desperately need it, they're not on the right path. Particularly whhen Goldman Sachs then turns around and screws the right with its absurd diversity demands.
Well, you lost because you regarded giving people the vast sum of $800 as 'socialism'. Which of course has nothing to do with socialism.
That is strange. I thought you'd be a big supporter of the $40 billion slush fund.
I mean, you act like it's some sort of moral commitment to Taiwan, rather than hard-nosed Realpolitik of trying to prevent the influence of China from spreading. It is not betrayal to not defend Taiwan (though I hope the US does), because princes break their word when it is not in their interests, and Taiwan knows that full well.
You have to correct for your own bias on that. Harris is unpopular with everyone. The other two, I am not sure.
It didn't decline by 30%. US GDP was only -3.49% for 2020.
Now you're just lying to straw man me. Why the fuck do I care about helping "the rich"? I just want a fair tax system, where losers are not subsidized, and winners are not punished. If you are a poor loser, you should be incentivized to go work to improve your position in life, instead of whining to government to take care of you. I don't want to live in a nation full of useless dead weight who contribute nothing and then sit on twitter and reddit all day demanding communism.
What are you talking about? The Republicans bowed down to all the spending in 2020, albeit reluctantly, precisely because they feared losing votes. That's not why they lost.
I made a post in KIA2 on Reddit criticizing it and linking Rand Paul's denunciation of it. Maybe you were already banned by then, idk. I can't link it now because I don't have access to the sub. I can be against Russia but also in favor of fiscal responsibility.
It is a moral imperative. Americans are (or were) raised to believe that we stand at the tip of the spear to defend freedom and democracy against the evils of communist aggression. You might remember the Cold War, which was still in full swing when I was a child growing up in the 80s.
You think Americans have no principles, and well, the libs don't, but most normal Americans do. And it is still 100% in America's best interests to defend Taiwan to prevent aggression from a resurgent CCP empire even from a realpolitik perspective, but there is also a moral, principled component to it as well. The principles will bring the Right, the emotional virtue signal "feels" will bring the Left.
Ah, so you're a supporter of nazis torturing and murdering ethnic Russians.
lol Putin aint gonna fuck you, bro
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On the contrary, plenty of us demand that he not let it go. It's one of the few issues I care deeply about. I voted for Trump in 2020 because of his shining a light on the Deep State and refusing to cooperate with the CIA, State, and the GOP. Also his "mean" tweets.
If he "moves on" it tells me he's another fake politician who decided to take one for the uniparty. He needs to whine, bitch, and flip the tables.
SHUT.
IT.
DOWN.
Now can I say he'll actually be effective against them when he gets back in? Sadly no, not if judging by past performance. He might even be stupid enough to put Barr in charge of the investigation. But I do think he is out for revenge and has a narcissistic personal motivation, which is more motivation than DeSantis has. With that guy you're literally abbreviating his name as DS. I'm going to take that as a sign.
I can't disagree with you that a lot of traditional voter blocs like muh suburban women will vote whoever looks more shiny and "electable", but I think people like me are a significant bloc for him. Most of the time we just don't vote at all. So if you mean his whining is bad from a tactical perspective, I think it's probably a wash.
not saying this to insult you, but people like you are a small minority, and the bulk of voters think you're crazy. making you "the base" is a 1 way ticket to permanent minority status.