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Starbucks CEO rewarding everyone not unionized with pay raise and more. Union/Supporters frothing at the mouth, demand the same, ignoring the fact that anything new for a union can only be attained in negotiations. (archive.ph)
posted 4 years ago by GeneralBoobs 4 years ago by GeneralBoobs +42 / -0
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– TriangleGang 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

I've often wondered about the viability of this tactic.

There are piles of rules protecting workers rights to collectively bargain, preventing businesses from interfering with unionization, and forcing them to deal only with the union selected by the employees. But what, if anything, prevents a business from simply offering a better deal to non-union members to disincentivize union membership?

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– Adamrises 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I can't speak for all businesses, but all the ones I've dealt with you didn't have an option. You joined the union or you didn't have the job. So it wasn't a viable tactic because it didn't have any comparison because there either was no union, all union, or only union in a completely different section of the business with such different pay/benefits it didn't matter.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I've seen some where people can become worker/managers, where on days they're working as a grunt, they're unionized, but on days they're working as managers, they're non-unionized. But those are generally worst-of-both-worlds, not best.

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– Adamrises 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah my old job was one of those. Luckily our specific building voted the union out years ago, but every other location the manager was non-union while all the workers were.

My buddy who xferred over said it was the worst possible position to try and manage in.

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– deleted 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0
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– censorthisss 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

And their lattes taste like ass. I'm not a coffee snob but they really are bad.

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– LinkR 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Unions are good on paper, but they generally always end up being run by someone incompetent or corrupt. Every sing one I was forced in to was a total scam. Sometimes I wonder if half of them are mock unions secretly being run by the company itself.

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– Adamrises 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It really is a rock and a hard place, because at times you do need to wield the collective power of the employees to keep corporate/management from pulling some bullshit.

But it always just becomes a "choose which boot steps on you" instead, often with less money due to dues.

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– LinkR 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

"choose which boot steps on you"

That's the part that pisses me off the most. It's one thing to get stepped on by someone who is clearly the bad guy. It's a whole different level of fucked when the "bad guy" is acting like they are doing it for your own good and you know they are full of shit, but everyone around you is completely oblivious to it.

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– WhitePhoenix 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

lmao

That's what you fucks get for unionizing.

Starbucks the ultra progressive organization.

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– superspathi 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I would liquidate a business and fire everyone rather than employ communist union thugs.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

There's a decent opening to pit labor movement-type leftists against the woke left globohom corporations. That pot needs stirring.

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– covok48 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

To be fair, Starbucks wouldn’t have done this without the specter of Union presence somewhere. They’re doing what they should be doing anyway as an anti-Union bribe, which you could argue is an indirect benefit of unionization.

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– dionysus2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This should be the top comment.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don't understand the point of unions.

Why do you need a union to organize a strike? If your bosses are unfair to you, you can all agree to stop working without any need to be paying union fees to some commie union boss.

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– Assassin47 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I'm fine with unions being just that. If a large group of employees wants to organize for collective bargaining, go ahead. You get no special legal recognition, and you cannot compel other employees to join you if they don't want to.

But that is in fact the point, to force everyone to join.

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– FutaCumDiet 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yuri was right again.

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– deleted 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0
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– SarcasticRidley 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

organize

I'm not pro or anti union, but I will say that unlike women, trying to get men together to collectively do something, even it's something that benefits them, is kind of hard. Every man would have to be on the same page for it to work, and most men are in a "do my own thing" mode as a default.

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– covok48 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Well this is a good example the benefits of unions. Company sees the benefit of paying non-union members more to not join the union.

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