Background : at 1:20 - https://youtube.com/watch?v=ih2RLpJ1ikU&feature=share
we see Microsoft employees apologize to 20 Indigenous tribes for being in Seattle.
Please correct me if I am wrong - This is why I feel every American should be disgusted:
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The purpose of a sincere apology is promise future reparations of some kind
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Microsoft themselves has NO intention of paying these reparations (despite being in a perfect position to give back any land they feel guilty about)
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The expectation is that YOU will have to repay BIPOC to assuage Microsoft's guilt....
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If I wanted to be held responsible for historic crimes of my people I would go and live in North Korea - I hear they love that shit.
I think this shit started in Canada.
My biggest issues is that it's an empty virtue signal (they're not handing the deed over) and they're pretending the 800 different tribes they mentioned just shared those 500 acres peacefully. The reality is that those not-so-noble savages did the same as the Europeans or worse to each other. So are the Mi'kmaq going to acknowledge they're occupying the traditional land of the Algonquin?
Southern Ontario is the best.
The governor general bought all the land here from the Mississauga at market value. He then assigned the Haldimand Grant to Joseph Brant's Iroquois because they fought for the British against the Americans but lost their territory when the war ended. The rest went to European settlers, mostly British.
The Mississauga only had lived there for 80 years or so. They moved in after the Iroquios drove out the Huron over fur hunting and then went back home.
So we acknowledge the Mississauga, the people who never fought for the land and made millions selling it.
And no one has any idea of the actual history (which is super interesting, btw), just "white man stole land from the indians".
This came up in Montreal recently. After the Canadiens hockey team acknowledged they were on traditional Mohawk land, several city and provincial politicians pointed out that the inhabitants of the area at the time of first contact were Iroquoians, who had vanished without a trace by the time the city was founded a century later.
The Mohawk were resettled here from upstate New York after they were belligerents on the losing side of the Revolutionary War, which is a very traditional way to lose your land, even among the Indians.
The Mohawk leadership were pretty pissed off that evil colonizers would dare to bring up facts.
Hey, at least your lot had written language and worked out how to use guns…
Sort of makes it easier to track things down, rather than heebie geebie oral history “Dreamtime” shit…
Our lot literally had not developed a concept of linear time, which makes tracing this stuff, or working out who actually belonged to what tribe, or indeed true tribal boundaries (apart from say, “Dat tree over dere”) almost literally impossible…
Yay for Stone Age levels of development a mere 250 years ago! Woohoo! 🙄
An alien civilization, observing our little rock from orbit, would in all likelihood, using our own system of classification, question why your lot is designated homo sapiens sapiens, and not a close relation of homo sapiens like the neanderthals or denisovans.
Do these land acknowledgments incite resentment and a sense of deserving payment in the indigenous people?
I think most find it annoying empty words by white liberals pretending to care.
The far-left Injun activists are already feeling resentment and a sense of deserving payment.
It wasn't stolen, it was conquered fair and square.
The native population have had centuries to adapt to the rest of the world. They have US citzenship, they can live and work anywhere in the country. They have opportunity beyond anything their pitifully weak, stone-age nations could have ever offered them.
Conquered AND fairly purchased or settled because the land was vacant.
Plus the Indians exterminated the people who were here before them.
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Every nation on the face of the planet is living on land that was taken from someone else. And It has been happening since the dawn of civilization.
I say that a lot too, people get so angry :x
But it's a fact! All the Native Tribes in North America killed other tribes in the past and took everything they had. Slavery was common. Torture was normal. Human sacrifices of their own children (a little further south mostly) was normal for centuries.
Some tribe was moaning about how 'Mount Rushmore had been stolen from them!' when in fact their tribe had driven off the previous peoples 150 years before... it would be funny if it wasn't so horrible.
Yes I used this examples also. The Woke religious zealots gets furious over the facts. It seriously fucks with their religious tenets that only white people have done bad things, white people invented slavery and racism. These people are absolute clowns and destroyed the very movements they claim to be part of. Absolute trojan horsing of the civil rights movements by these dumb fucks.
i make the same argument about black people.
sure slavery sucked. but consider that never happened and the whole civilized world ignored africa.
fast forwards a couple of centuries.
if you are about to be born black you'd be stuck being born in africa, dying to some disease or animal or be killed in tribal warfare fighting with bronze age weapons. or be enslaved by arabs and ignored or killed by asians, who always hated blacks
at least the way things turned out, some black people had the chance to be on par with the civilized world
slavery and transport to america was the best thing that happened to black people
Oh balls, they're starting that on your side of the border too? I can't go to a meeting in my office with more than 10 people in it without some masked HR flack or middle manager coming in and telling us we're on stolen ground.
Wait until they move from "Land Acknowledgement" to "Truth and Reconciliation". It's every bit as Orwellian as it sounds.
It's the exact same in Australia, despite many, many of those tribes being completely extinct (at least in most of the capital cities, where those tribes are, well, kaput...).
It's inarguably even worse in NZ.
The whole Anglosphere (more awkward in the UK of course, given that uhh, the "natives" are hard to pin down) is becoming like this, and it's very fucking sad. :-(
Canada is pretty bad about this. The "natives" making the most noise are college kids who look 100% anglo. Its the South Park episode.
Ooh ooh, and do you have the ones, very much Anglo (you call some of them Métis, no?) who turn to black American culture for inspiration, and then become rappers, who rap about how much they hate the country, and want to tear it all down..?
And does your media endlessly sing their praises (literally), and go on and on about how “unique, wonderful, special and talented” they are..?
Because that’s what they do here, lol.
It’s so fucking predictable that it’s honestly depressing, man…
Yeah, that’s… Exactly the same here. Like, no word of a lie, exactly 100% the same.
Bet they grew up in the big city, or at least “urban”, too, didn’t they..?
That’s literally EXACTLY how it is here, lololol… Funny that.
Australia was the first place I heard about it happening 20 years ago because of a John Safran sketch
That’s beautiful- so why do they put up the signs?
To torment the aborigines?
I assume it was the "we believe" sign of that time and place: intended to make the occupants feel good without really compelling them to do anything.
The good news is, starting that stage gives you a sniper rifle and about 2x max ammo cap in reloads. It should be enough to quash any "but muh land" nudniks.
I think if they start going ahead with it here, we start taking scalps of anyone that tries? Am I doing the First Nations thing right?
any institution that isn't explicitly based will eventually become cucked.
The virtue signaling is an "emperor has no clothes" loyalty test. The goal, like all lefty public declarations, isn't to convey information.
The primary goal is to signal the speaker's loyalty to the revolution. The second is to attack the ideological enemies of the revolution. Then make notes about who is actively supportive, who is grudgingly not dissenting, and who is grumbling or even speaking out against it (to add to an enemies list).
And the third is to re-normalize the revolutionary position. It is part of the very real slippery slope that the left always denies but is always true. Once it is culturally accepted that the land is "stolen" then the next phase is "redress" which requires government power to seize and redistribute the land. Because, after all, who can be against returning stolen property to its rightful owners?
Yeah, to your last paragraph, Zim, South Africa, Paraguay, Bolivia, Jamaica, HAITI, PNG, East Timor, the Indian subcontinent, Tibet and China (in particular Shanghai, Beijing, Macau and Hong Kong), amongst others, say hi… 😕
Also Japan with what they did to Christians in the past (inc. literal crucifixion 👌🏻).
Also NZ, with its Māori roadblocks and shadow parliament (there’s a whole separate Māori electorate system. No, I’m not making that up)…
This never ends well, in the long run. Never.
https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1456513808394981377
They should apologize for Seattle being the shithole that it is.
We took it by ancient laws of conquest and bartering. Not our fault the indians were poor traders. Also they ate babies so fuck them.
They made great trades, in their own system.
"Hey! Some guy gave us a box of really valuable stuff for land we don't even own! Good deal huh!" (Manhattan in that case)
Native tribes were notorious for selling other tribes' land :p
I heard the Queen of England to this day owns the entire northeastern seaboard of the United States, but it kind of sounds like some blueanon shit.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
I see you have not been introduced to performative virtue signaling.
The main purpose is to gain WokeCredits without doing anything of substance.
even if it was stolen, you're not getting it back.
As others have mentioned this stuff plagues Canada. It is maximum Woke religious zealotry. This, along with pronoun declarations before teacher meetings in many schools, are culty religious rituals being forced on citizens... by other citizens.
It is serious bullshit.
Better to get comfortable with Linux. None of these big corporations are trustworthy
If this were really stolen land, then all immigration should be banned since that only furthers native American dispossession.
Just don't forget when this happened elsewhere already:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-oklahoma/u-s-supreme-court-deems-half-of-oklahoma-a-native-american-reservation-idUSKBN24A268
Nothing at all, beyond half of OK no longer being the USA.
You're right about what they will do, but you're wrong about MS's reasoning for doing it. MS has no guilt. Guilt has nothing to do with the reparations push. The reparations push is purely to disempower the largest homogeneous political group, white middle class, that by and large holds little resentment towards other socio-political group in the American political landscape. Because of that the white middle class could be a unifying political power.
To combat that TPTB are doing everything they can to vilify the white middle class which will result in a mass transfer of wealth. The transfer of wealth is already on going since it is the white middle class who are the biggest tax payers. Every successful college applicant of color with poorer academic performs, diversity hire, every race specific non-competitive government & public corporation contract, every small business administration race specific non-competitive grant forces tens of thousands of more qualified and responsible white people put their lives and prosperity on hold, every illegal immigrant consumes 10's of thousands of dollars a year in government assistance and access to pubilc education and services......IT'S ALL A TRANSFER OF WEALTH FROM WHITES TO OTHER SOCIO-POLITICAL GROUPS. But eventually TPBP will come right out and most egregious take money form your accounts and hand it directly to poc's.
And when the white middle class can no longer ignore it, they will become the terrorists that the DHS and FBI has been painting them to be for the past 10 years....even while cities were looted and burned at the hands of BLM. Thus, their political power will be neutered, their mutual goodwill towards other groups destroyed, the distrust between the ever greater socio-political segmentation of the population will be complete.
Very insightful. What is TPTB?
So you don't think MS has guilt, but are doing it for other reasons.
It feels to me that the ultra wealthy billionaires at microsoft can see they are vulnerable to legitimate resentment and grievances from the middle class - so they protect themselves by diverting focus onto what I would call "imaginary grievances".
Because, like you say, the middle class (or even poor whites) will end up paying the price for all these apologies. (which I speculate are a form of IOU, but not one that MS will pay - one that they want 'other people' to pay)