While the shift in the college gender ratio is often characterized as men “falling behind,” men are actually more likely to go to college today than they were when they were the majority, many decades ago.
This is a total non-sequitur. “Falling behind” is clearly in comparison to women’s enrollment rate, not the rate at some point in the past.
“Many decades ago” many of the jobs that require a college degree today only required a high school diploma.
Because of the change in ratio, some selective colleges discriminate against women in admissions to maintain a gender balance
Oh, so now it’s discrimination.
There are still some good-paying jobs available to men without college credentials. There are relatively few for such women.
And here I thought that men and women were supposed to be basically the same, right? Not to mention the fact that some trades are quite open to women if they wanted those jobs, but they largely do not.
The fact that the male-female wage gap remains large after more than four decades in which women outnumbered men in college strongly suggests that college alone offers a narrow view of opportunity.
Or it suggests that women make choices that tend to result in lower wages that you conveniently ignore because it does not advance your cause.
None of this diminishes the significance of the male decrease in college enrollment and graduation.
The author just spent the first 12 of 16 paragraphs telling us how women are the real victims here.
But about 200,000 fewer women were enrolled in community college last year nonetheless. If we’re looking for a college enrollment crisis, that’s also a good place to start.
This is the concluding paragraph. Forget women outnumbering men 6 to 4, the real crisis is how the pandemic affected enrollment rates for women (even though they were “less likely than men to leave community college”).
Somewhat of a silver lining is that a lot of this women will not find a husband/ partner and will die depressed and miserable.
Women will not date men bellow them so college educated women will have a harder time finding a men.
Add to that how culture managed to brainwash women in to thinking that working 9 hours a day or more is what makes you happy and husband = patriarchy and children are dead weight and you get a recipe for disaster.
Men do survive as bachelors better then women, maybe this is why women try to ruin escapism for guys.
Excellent break down and summary as well. Thank you.
It's amazing to me how acidulous and shameless these types of assholes are. This article is not journalism; it's activism through and through.
The fact that so many people can't see how consumer culture constantly being barraged with such mendacious bullshit is genuinely harmful is something that I'll never understand.
Perhaps they know that these types of messages — which saturate every facet of our culture — are harmful to society as a whole and they simply don't care because it serves as a vehicle for a myriad of self-serving objectives. It's not secret that "journalists" today use their outlets as a type of therapist or personal blog, so it wouldn't be unexpected for them to write entire articles to platform their activism; soothe their insecurity; seek validation of their views from others; use it as a sad method of attracting a partner; push a specific political agenda; use it as propaganda tool to manipulate others; use it to serve corporate or elite interests — the list goes on. It's no secret that many of those things have always been intrinsic traits to journalism. We've always seen at least some underlying motivation, but I would argue that in the past, competent Editors made it a point to have writers present both sides in a way that would make the reader think and form their own conclusion — something that seems almost completely lost these days.
In 2021, we've reached a point where consumerism has created the expectation that everything — including ambiguous beliefs — are spoon-fed to people because they're a necessity for the conformist culture that's slowly being created. People want to feel like they match the common consensus of society, which is exactly why you'll always hear these vacuous consumers screaming about "everyone thinks xxxxxx!" or "we all agree that xxxxxx." It's also exactly why they worship "consensus" and there's a new cult of "scientism" (just a word I use) being created. In their simple and hollow minds science has become the new cult of consensus — if only because they don't actually understand how science works. But this is another topic altogether.
Whatever society is currently heading towards will be anything but auspicious. Nonetheless, if current society is any indicator, it's also entirely our own fault and well deserved.
"The fact that the male-female wage gap remains large bleh, bleh, bleh...
In the relevant demographic, single metropolitan young people (most likely to have earned a college degree) women out earn men by 8% on average (Census Bureau's American Community Survey) and in some cases up to 12% (L.A.) and 21% (ATL).
But who gives a fuck about facts when we're trying to further the truism of the "woman-victim" narrative?!
The fact that the male-female wage gap remains large after more than four decades in which women outnumbered men in college strongly suggests that college alone offers a narrow view of opportunity.
Or it suggests that women make choices that tend to result in lower wages that you conveniently ignore because it does not advance your cause.
It's both honestly. College can help you get a decent job, but unless you're going to be a doctor or a lawyer, or hell, a college professor, you're probably better off going into the trades...
Well not quite. College enabled me to bypass some of the lower rungs in my industry and started me off at a higher salary than peers with the same job. And I’m in my nice air conditioned home office not doing backbreaking trade work that will wear my body out by the time I’m 50. College has its place in the middle class too.
Seems like the key ingredient is persistence, besides, with colleges these days, think id rather avoid the neon mafia, take out fewer student loans and go into HVAC.
Does college have anything to offer men at this point besides "diversity" training and a piece of paper attesting that they've been through "diversity" training? You pay more than the typical household salary in most states to pay for a diversity administration that hates you. The professors aren't seeing much of that money even the ones teaching something actually useful like math and even math is getting rapidly lysenko'd.
There's much talk and little action about parallel institutions and nowhere is the need more obvious than higher learning. It's something that's already happening on a small scale for art (I forget the term but it's artists learning in small studios from a teacher with no administration because they want to learn actual art instead of activism) probably because art's been pozzed for so much longer.
Men are far more likely to pursue a career that makes more money than a woman and not go into student debt. Then the bitches have the nerve to complain about a pay gap.
Guilds and apprenticeships are the way forward for a lot of skilled trades. Learn the core fundamentals in online lectures and learn the specialized skills from an existing professional.
There's no reason even highly specialized fields like advanced science and engineering couldn't be structured this way except that companies don't want to pay to train someone for years before they even begin to become minimally useful (if they ever do).
How is this a surprise? Why would you go into horrific debt, be abused and then end up with a worthless degree?
You'd be better off going to a trade school or being an apprentice. If you're into tech get a job as an overnight NOC monkey and work your way up to developer.
I, too, like to knock college, however you'd have to get an engineering degree to get my job. Specifically. Not all programming jobs. But it does open doors.
Of course I graduated in the dark ages with debt that could be paid off in a year. Shit does change.
Even in the 1950s, it was a meme that women went to college to get their "MRS degree." Apparently it's still relevant in $current_year when even the NYT are noticing less fish in the Husband Sea.
This is a total non-sequitur. “Falling behind” is clearly in comparison to women’s enrollment rate, not the rate at some point in the past.
“Many decades ago” many of the jobs that require a college degree today only required a high school diploma.
Oh, so now it’s discrimination.
And here I thought that men and women were supposed to be basically the same, right? Not to mention the fact that some trades are quite open to women if they wanted those jobs, but they largely do not.
Or it suggests that women make choices that tend to result in lower wages that you conveniently ignore because it does not advance your cause.
The author just spent the first 12 of 16 paragraphs telling us how women are the real victims here.
This is the concluding paragraph. Forget women outnumbering men 6 to 4, the real crisis is how the pandemic affected enrollment rates for women (even though they were “less likely than men to leave community college”).
Fucking hell.
Somewhat of a silver lining is that a lot of this women will not find a husband/ partner and will die depressed and miserable.
Women will not date men bellow them so college educated women will have a harder time finding a men.
Add to that how culture managed to brainwash women in to thinking that working 9 hours a day or more is what makes you happy and husband = patriarchy and children are dead weight and you get a recipe for disaster.
Men do survive as bachelors better then women, maybe this is why women try to ruin escapism for guys.
Excellent analysis.
Explain all the single mothers who paid the coal toll then. We all know it's the men that left those relationships and not the other way around
Excellent break down and summary as well. Thank you.
It's amazing to me how acidulous and shameless these types of assholes are. This article is not journalism; it's activism through and through.
The fact that so many people can't see how consumer culture constantly being barraged with such mendacious bullshit is genuinely harmful is something that I'll never understand.
Perhaps they know that these types of messages — which saturate every facet of our culture — are harmful to society as a whole and they simply don't care because it serves as a vehicle for a myriad of self-serving objectives. It's not secret that "journalists" today use their outlets as a type of therapist or personal blog, so it wouldn't be unexpected for them to write entire articles to platform their activism; soothe their insecurity; seek validation of their views from others; use it as a sad method of attracting a partner; push a specific political agenda; use it as propaganda tool to manipulate others; use it to serve corporate or elite interests — the list goes on. It's no secret that many of those things have always been intrinsic traits to journalism. We've always seen at least some underlying motivation, but I would argue that in the past, competent Editors made it a point to have writers present both sides in a way that would make the reader think and form their own conclusion — something that seems almost completely lost these days.
In 2021, we've reached a point where consumerism has created the expectation that everything — including ambiguous beliefs — are spoon-fed to people because they're a necessity for the conformist culture that's slowly being created. People want to feel like they match the common consensus of society, which is exactly why you'll always hear these vacuous consumers screaming about "everyone thinks xxxxxx!" or "we all agree that xxxxxx." It's also exactly why they worship "consensus" and there's a new cult of "scientism" (just a word I use) being created. In their simple and hollow minds science has become the new cult of consensus — if only because they don't actually understand how science works. But this is another topic altogether.
Whatever society is currently heading towards will be anything but auspicious. Nonetheless, if current society is any indicator, it's also entirely our own fault and well deserved.
IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM
In the relevant demographic, single metropolitan young people (most likely to have earned a college degree) women out earn men by 8% on average (Census Bureau's American Community Survey) and in some cases up to 12% (L.A.) and 21% (ATL).
But who gives a fuck about facts when we're trying to further the truism of the "woman-victim" narrative?!
It's both honestly. College can help you get a decent job, but unless you're going to be a doctor or a lawyer, or hell, a college professor, you're probably better off going into the trades...
Well not quite. College enabled me to bypass some of the lower rungs in my industry and started me off at a higher salary than peers with the same job. And I’m in my nice air conditioned home office not doing backbreaking trade work that will wear my body out by the time I’m 50. College has its place in the middle class too.
Seems like the key ingredient is persistence, besides, with colleges these days, think id rather avoid the neon mafia, take out fewer student loans and go into HVAC.
Always jobs for hvac in texas, lmao
Yes because it’s hot as fuck and can get up to 150 degrees in a cramped attic. Have fun with that.
lmao, good point.
I kinda wondered about that, what's with texas and putting furnaces in attics, anyway?
Where else would you put it?
Good point I suppose...
I mean, in Iowa, they put them and the water heater in the basement, but basements arent as common down here as they are up north
Maybe in newer houses, they might be able to put them in a special closet, but that doesn't account for houses that have stood since the sixties...
NYT is anti-male, anti-White, anti-West propaganda. And anyone who reads it is retarded.
Does college have anything to offer men at this point besides "diversity" training and a piece of paper attesting that they've been through "diversity" training? You pay more than the typical household salary in most states to pay for a diversity administration that hates you. The professors aren't seeing much of that money even the ones teaching something actually useful like math and even math is getting rapidly lysenko'd.
There's much talk and little action about parallel institutions and nowhere is the need more obvious than higher learning. It's something that's already happening on a small scale for art (I forget the term but it's artists learning in small studios from a teacher with no administration because they want to learn actual art instead of activism) probably because art's been pozzed for so much longer.
Men are far more likely to pursue a career that makes more money than a woman and not go into student debt. Then the bitches have the nerve to complain about a pay gap.
Guilds and apprenticeships are the way forward for a lot of skilled trades. Learn the core fundamentals in online lectures and learn the specialized skills from an existing professional.
There's no reason even highly specialized fields like advanced science and engineering couldn't be structured this way except that companies don't want to pay to train someone for years before they even begin to become minimally useful (if they ever do).
How is this a surprise? Why would you go into horrific debt, be abused and then end up with a worthless degree?
You'd be better off going to a trade school or being an apprentice. If you're into tech get a job as an overnight NOC monkey and work your way up to developer.
College is for chumps.
This is the real reason.
I, too, like to knock college, however you'd have to get an engineering degree to get my job. Specifically. Not all programming jobs. But it does open doors.
Of course I graduated in the dark ages with debt that could be paid off in a year. Shit does change.
...am I high, or is this a redpill masquerading as a blue pill?
Because being a home maker is now no longer a viable career option.
Thanks feminism. Another own goal.
Funny you don't have too. Women can always just get knocked up and asking the goberment for free gibs..
Or
Actually do some work like trades. Nah. Women are allergic to physical labour.
Wow. A man getting a 4 year head start in a career helps more than a liberal arts college degree? Who knew?
Even in the 1950s, it was a meme that women went to college to get their "MRS degree." Apparently it's still relevant in $current_year when even the NYT are noticing less fish in the Husband Sea.
The ones writing this article wants clicks and to promote why men falling behind is actually good.