Carthage couldn't conceive of ruling Rome, so they were wiped out by the Romans who couldn't conceive of a Mediterranean not dominated by a single power. The Confederacy had no intention of ruling Yankees, so they were wiped out by the Union who had no intention of letting the empire fracture. The left believes they are engaged in a fight to the death with an existential enemy, and the right doesn't want to fight anyone. This is why conservatives are doomed to failure.
The Carthaginians were sacrificing babies, which offended the Romans so much that they decided to wipe it off the map. Of course power and prestige were factors as well, but the initial disgust against their practices is not to be underestimated.
That's a great reason to crush the enemy and salt the land. Unfortunately, progressive child sacrifice rituals aren't enough motivation for the modern conservative bugmen.
That's because we live inside Carthage now. Germany was taking the same kind of role Rome did, but was shut down. America Pre-WWII would look at this modern state as the Romans did to Carthage, but they were led into battle either way.
They have been literally sacrificing children and casting spells through Hollywood. They came up with the Internet and much of our technology specifically to brainwash us to lead into a Luciferian NWO, rebuilding the Tower of Babel (globalization) that God originally scattered into Nations to prevent that.
So now we move further into Revelation, they likely will succeed to a point before God destroys Babylon and the Satanic false jews (Rev 3:9) once and for all (Rev 17-18). But it seems to me around half of the global population will die first from medical tyranny and some sort (a third in Rev 6:8) of potential solar flare event (a fourth of what's left over in Rev 9:18).
I'm not sure that child sacrifice or abandonment was really as shocking an idea to the Romans as you might think. After all, their founders, Romulus and Remus, were abandoned in the elements. It was a not uncommon practice.
It was Christianity that brought that kind of thing to an end.
It's not abandonment, it's literally putting children into a pit of flame to burn them alive. The Romans did not want to do human or animal sacrifices because they saw them as abhorrent, but they still had some practices like that remaining in their celebrations.
The Romans did not want to take over Carthage and rule it as conquerors, they wanted it burned to the ground and all the citizens slaughtered. You don't do that unless you have powerful emotions guiding you.
The Romans did not want to take over Carthage and rule it as conquerors, they wanted it burned to the ground and all the citizens slaughtered. You don't do that unless you have powerful emotions guiding you.
They wanted Carthage's territory and wealth. They wanted to destroy a rival. Cato's famous expression (roughly) -- "Carthago delenda est!" / "Carthage must be destroyed" was his call to war. Rome had already fought two wars with Carthage, and Cato believed Carthage was becoming too wealthy and might again challenge Rome. Carthage must be destroyed.
Fighting against a rival to gain dominance is one of the most fundamental animal and human behaviors.
Roman culture was brutal by our modern, Western standards. Animal sacrifice was common and accepted part of religion. The Romans even had an priest official -- the haruspex -- whose job was to examine the entrails of scarified animals for messages from the gods.
Crucifixion of rebellious slaves, enemies, criminals, etc., was common place.
Gladiatorial combat to the death and other blood sports were common.
You're right that the Romans did not perform human sacrifice (or very, very rarely sacrificed humans), but there doesn't seem to be any major moral drive to defeat Carthage. Carthage was an economic and military rival. They fought. It's the story of human history.
Even the article you linked says, regarding Carthaginian child sacrifice:
'Indeed, contemporary Greek and Roman writers tended to describe the practice as more of an eccentricity or historical oddity – they're not actually very critical.
'We should not imagine that ancient people thought like us and were horrified by the same things.'
They didn't have "all the citizens slaughtered", they enslaved them. As usual. Of course, some were ritually executed. As usual.
You're reading way too much into Roman propaganda. Look how they were OH MY GODS outraged whenever their captive soldiers were being sacrificed (by the British druids or the German witches), or by the Gaul practice of headhunting, despite routinely torturing their own prisoners to death in public (including but not limited to crucifixion) or forcing them to kill each other in what they called "games" for the enjoyment of what they called "mob". Hypocritical pricks. Nice civilization tho. Even if just culturally appropriated from the Greeks, after murdering their way all through Greece.
Btw they also honestly believed, or wanted their people to believe, that Christians were literally bloodthirsty cannibals.
Yeah I was going to say that. The Roman people often deposed of female babies too, as it was a cultural standard to just have one girl. I know it's not the same as sacrificing many children but it's not a million miles away from it at the same time. I could be wrong about all that, but I'm pretty sure I read that in The Rise of Christianity by Rodney Stark
The sons of those conservatives don't perceive any difference between the two parties of the system. We were taught from our conservative elders that the entire game is rigged. Of course, these were not your average Americans. They were soldiers, who then became union organizers, activist, police, lawyers and business owners with the thought of upholding the country through our Democratic process and laws that adhere to the Constitution. And when those have failed in an authoritarian fashion, as they are today, be ready for a bloody fight.
The people ready for this fight are not conservative. They are the silent majority that are ready to uphold the traditions and values that the Constitution sets forth. Most of them see the party ideal as a failure, and remain at peace in the thought of "live and let live". Remove that, and the opposite occurs. But not from spite, and not from retaliation, but out of the desire to uphold the traditions and values this country tries to set forth, that are seen as monuments to those striving to break their own lands from tyranny, oppression and slavery.
It really is. The Left won't leave the Right alone, and the tiny minority of leftists who aren't total control freaks are on their way to becoming right wing, even if they don't know it yet.
What they mean is, it's not about the old left vs the old right. Nowadays, everyone who believes the news is left, everyone who doesn't is right. Because the left has literally just become all about preaching the most obvious lies.
Unfortunately there's too many idiots that fall for it, 10-20% of the idiot population can easy bully the rest, if they also own the banks. The state/banks can bully corporations to do anything they want, and as long as they have support from 20% of the idiot population, they can fake a "majority"
I dont thnk its even 20% high. It's <15% or less. No one believes msm anymore, at least the people who pay attention to it, most other folks are busy working 9-5s and just tune it out, passively listening to the retards yelling about vaccs and BIDUMPF being the greatest potus since lincoln, I bet if we spread this info out, bois, theres a LOT more support where THATS coming from...~!!!
The left are the scions of Cain. They burn and fester in their resentment because deep down they know are too cowardly and weak to take the risks and make the necessary sacrifices that success requires. But they can't let go of their unearned ego to look inwards and truly solve their problems. So they deflect by raging at the unfairness of the universe for making them who they are.
Everyone wants to be left alone. Even rapists and murderers want to be left alone to rape and murder with impunity. Sometimes it is appropriate and correct that we don't leave people alone to do Evil things. Such is the basis for law: people who do Evil aren't "left alone" to do Evil.
The problem is that the law has become extremely detached from a very large percentage of the population's definition of the Good. That is the problem we have: a very large number of people who are behaving in a way they think are oriented towards the Good are now being told that they are evil and being punished for it. That does not lead us to good places.
Yes, it turns people against each other in violent ways. Humanity has known this for eons.
So why the big push to undermine the peace? Resources running out? Climate destabilization? Foreign influence? Access? Species longevity? Accounting for trillions of dept owned by Foreign entities? Taiwan?
This is also why they were so blatant about installing Biden when they did. Their great reset needs a global crisis to work. If the US can hold out, that could lead to their plan failing.
Become ungovernable. Demand accountability, rather than simply denying them their wishes.
'If you mandate I receive the vaccine, I want it in writing that the company will be liable for every issue every employee ever gets from the vaccine. If you do not want this, you should start pushing back on the mandates as well-just don't pay the fines, and when they ask why, tell them you need to know exactly which law you're breaking.'
Businesses demand masks? Ask them where the proper disposal areas for biological agents are. If they don't have them, demand they have one before they ask you to put on a potential death strip.
I never cared about gays, transgenders or whatever the fuck people wanted to be. I didn't care about whatever fucking gender someone wants to be identified as. I didn't care about other cultures, as long as they aren't dictating how I need to live.
But now I do care, because this shit is being shoved down me and everyone else's throat, just fucking leave me alone. There will never be a point in history that we can all agree on the same shit, it always has been and always will be like that. The best thing we can do is live and let live. But no, the leftists decided to pick a fight, because apparently not caring about something is the same as being a racist, fascist, nazi or whatever other label they put on it.
I used to be pretty neutral, I didn't care for left or right. But the left made me go right. Good job.
Carthage couldn't conceive of ruling Rome, so they were wiped out by the Romans who couldn't conceive of a Mediterranean not dominated by a single power. The Confederacy had no intention of ruling Yankees, so they were wiped out by the Union who had no intention of letting the empire fracture. The left believes they are engaged in a fight to the death with an existential enemy, and the right doesn't want to fight anyone. This is why conservatives are doomed to failure.
The Carthaginians were sacrificing babies, which offended the Romans so much that they decided to wipe it off the map. Of course power and prestige were factors as well, but the initial disgust against their practices is not to be underestimated.
That's a great reason to crush the enemy and salt the land. Unfortunately, progressive child sacrifice rituals aren't enough motivation for the modern conservative bugmen.
That's because we live inside Carthage now. Germany was taking the same kind of role Rome did, but was shut down. America Pre-WWII would look at this modern state as the Romans did to Carthage, but they were led into battle either way.
People must wake up and realize who these Satanic Edomites really are, they are not the Biblical Hebrews.
They have been literally sacrificing children and casting spells through Hollywood. They came up with the Internet and much of our technology specifically to brainwash us to lead into a Luciferian NWO, rebuilding the Tower of Babel (globalization) that God originally scattered into Nations to prevent that.
So now we move further into Revelation, they likely will succeed to a point before God destroys Babylon and the Satanic false jews (Rev 3:9) once and for all (Rev 17-18). But it seems to me around half of the global population will die first from medical tyranny and some sort (a third in Rev 6:8) of potential solar flare event (a fourth of what's left over in Rev 9:18).
I'm not sure that child sacrifice or abandonment was really as shocking an idea to the Romans as you might think. After all, their founders, Romulus and Remus, were abandoned in the elements. It was a not uncommon practice.
It was Christianity that brought that kind of thing to an end.
It's not abandonment, it's literally putting children into a pit of flame to burn them alive. The Romans did not want to do human or animal sacrifices because they saw them as abhorrent, but they still had some practices like that remaining in their celebrations.
The Romans did not want to take over Carthage and rule it as conquerors, they wanted it burned to the ground and all the citizens slaughtered. You don't do that unless you have powerful emotions guiding you.
They wanted Carthage's territory and wealth. They wanted to destroy a rival. Cato's famous expression (roughly) -- "Carthago delenda est!" / "Carthage must be destroyed" was his call to war. Rome had already fought two wars with Carthage, and Cato believed Carthage was becoming too wealthy and might again challenge Rome. Carthage must be destroyed.
Fighting against a rival to gain dominance is one of the most fundamental animal and human behaviors.
Roman culture was brutal by our modern, Western standards. Animal sacrifice was common and accepted part of religion. The Romans even had an priest official -- the haruspex -- whose job was to examine the entrails of scarified animals for messages from the gods.
Crucifixion of rebellious slaves, enemies, criminals, etc., was common place.
Gladiatorial combat to the death and other blood sports were common.
You're right that the Romans did not perform human sacrifice (or very, very rarely sacrificed humans), but there doesn't seem to be any major moral drive to defeat Carthage. Carthage was an economic and military rival. They fought. It's the story of human history.
Even the article you linked says, regarding Carthaginian child sacrifice:
They didn't have "all the citizens slaughtered", they enslaved them. As usual. Of course, some were ritually executed. As usual.
You're reading way too much into Roman propaganda. Look how they were OH MY GODS outraged whenever their captive soldiers were being sacrificed (by the British druids or the German witches), or by the Gaul practice of headhunting, despite routinely torturing their own prisoners to death in public (including but not limited to crucifixion) or forcing them to kill each other in what they called "games" for the enjoyment of what they called "mob". Hypocritical pricks. Nice civilization tho. Even if just culturally appropriated from the Greeks, after murdering their way all through Greece.
Btw they also honestly believed, or wanted their people to believe, that Christians were literally bloodthirsty cannibals.
Yeah I was going to say that. The Roman people often deposed of female babies too, as it was a cultural standard to just have one girl. I know it's not the same as sacrificing many children but it's not a million miles away from it at the same time. I could be wrong about all that, but I'm pretty sure I read that in The Rise of Christianity by Rodney Stark
The early Christians were surrounded by rumors of cannibalism.
Like the Romans were morally virtuous. They destroyed anyone who refused to bend to their will...
Sadly this is my read on the situation.
The sons of those conservatives don't perceive any difference between the two parties of the system. We were taught from our conservative elders that the entire game is rigged. Of course, these were not your average Americans. They were soldiers, who then became union organizers, activist, police, lawyers and business owners with the thought of upholding the country through our Democratic process and laws that adhere to the Constitution. And when those have failed in an authoritarian fashion, as they are today, be ready for a bloody fight.
The people ready for this fight are not conservative. They are the silent majority that are ready to uphold the traditions and values that the Constitution sets forth. Most of them see the party ideal as a failure, and remain at peace in the thought of "live and let live". Remove that, and the opposite occurs. But not from spite, and not from retaliation, but out of the desire to uphold the traditions and values this country tries to set forth, that are seen as monuments to those striving to break their own lands from tyranny, oppression and slavery.
A kindly reminder of Libya.
How are they not conservative if they are ready to uphold the traditions and values that the Constitution set forth?
Are you a US citizen?
Then we need to fight, no excuses
It really is. The Left won't leave the Right alone, and the tiny minority of leftists who aren't total control freaks are on their way to becoming right wing, even if they don't know it yet.
What they mean is, it's not about the old left vs the old right. Nowadays, everyone who believes the news is left, everyone who doesn't is right. Because the left has literally just become all about preaching the most obvious lies.
Unfortunately there's too many idiots that fall for it, 10-20% of the idiot population can easy bully the rest, if they also own the banks. The state/banks can bully corporations to do anything they want, and as long as they have support from 20% of the idiot population, they can fake a "majority"
I dont thnk its even 20% high. It's <15% or less. No one believes msm anymore, at least the people who pay attention to it, most other folks are busy working 9-5s and just tune it out, passively listening to the retards yelling about vaccs and BIDUMPF being the greatest potus since lincoln, I bet if we spread this info out, bois, theres a LOT more support where THATS coming from...~!!!
The curtain-twitching nanny staters vs. The get-off-my-lawners.
The left are the scions of Cain. They burn and fester in their resentment because deep down they know are too cowardly and weak to take the risks and make the necessary sacrifices that success requires. But they can't let go of their unearned ego to look inwards and truly solve their problems. So they deflect by raging at the unfairness of the universe for making them who they are.
This may be somewhat controversial.
Everyone wants to be left alone. Even rapists and murderers want to be left alone to rape and murder with impunity. Sometimes it is appropriate and correct that we don't leave people alone to do Evil things. Such is the basis for law: people who do Evil aren't "left alone" to do Evil.
The problem is that the law has become extremely detached from a very large percentage of the population's definition of the Good. That is the problem we have: a very large number of people who are behaving in a way they think are oriented towards the Good are now being told that they are evil and being punished for it. That does not lead us to good places.
Yes, it turns people against each other in violent ways. Humanity has known this for eons.
So why the big push to undermine the peace? Resources running out? Climate destabilization? Foreign influence? Access? Species longevity? Accounting for trillions of dept owned by Foreign entities? Taiwan?
This is also why they were so blatant about installing Biden when they did. Their great reset needs a global crisis to work. If the US can hold out, that could lead to their plan failing.
I don't think that's true. There are those who want to be in charge of other people.
This is the real paradox of tolerance.
Name the political solution without fedposting:
Become ungovernable. Demand accountability, rather than simply denying them their wishes.
'If you mandate I receive the vaccine, I want it in writing that the company will be liable for every issue every employee ever gets from the vaccine. If you do not want this, you should start pushing back on the mandates as well-just don't pay the fines, and when they ask why, tell them you need to know exactly which law you're breaking.'
Businesses demand masks? Ask them where the proper disposal areas for biological agents are. If they don't have them, demand they have one before they ask you to put on a potential death strip.
vote from the bottom up, become ungovernable.
They wont stop bothering us until theyre physically incapable of doing so. Call me a glowey, but there really is only one solution.
And we’ve reached the point where those who wanted to be left alone have to get involved.
Exactly.
I never cared about gays, transgenders or whatever the fuck people wanted to be. I didn't care about whatever fucking gender someone wants to be identified as. I didn't care about other cultures, as long as they aren't dictating how I need to live.
But now I do care, because this shit is being shoved down me and everyone else's throat, just fucking leave me alone. There will never be a point in history that we can all agree on the same shit, it always has been and always will be like that. The best thing we can do is live and let live. But no, the leftists decided to pick a fight, because apparently not caring about something is the same as being a racist, fascist, nazi or whatever other label they put on it.
I used to be pretty neutral, I didn't care for left or right. But the left made me go right. Good job.
That's an oversimplified definition of what left vs right is, but only by a little.
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I've never seen Rambo until then but I will watch it this weekend
Stop trying to keep the left alive, when someone won't leave you alone you kick their ass in any way you can
I've been saying the same thing for a long time. The real issue is authoritarian vs libertarian.
This a million times.
That's not the point. The point was that the Left doesn't leave people alone, where as the right does.
It's still a Left VS. Right thing, this is just simplifying it.