Did Chris go the way of the Vaush or did he just take too many shoes to the head. Or on the head. I wouldn’t know, since I stopped paying attention after one too many bad takes. Too many of the old “skeptics” seem to have gone in weird directions.
Chris was always pretty funny and entertaining to watch, but when you’re surrounded by socialists, you’re bound to get influenced in that direction.
He was on a Vaush stream and then suddenly he is more centrist.
He is not left per say but take his "Six Days In Fallujah" for instance he spends a lot of time pointing out that the censorship from the left it was the same as the religious right. It seemed he was more concerned about that then the left trying to censor it.
He also has a bad take on January 6 and restricted the video he had comparing leftists to nazis - forgot the actual song.
I watched the Vaush video and I could tell how he was losing his stance. Vaush may be a pedophile communist but he is persuasive.
It may be Vaush or his girlfriend or both but if the left cancels Vaush it would be a great win. I hate the guy but he is to good at what he does.
he spends a lot of time pointing out that the censorship from the left it was the same as the religious right
This argument usually comes from someone who is desperately clinging to the Left, and simply can't accept the fact that the Left were always on the wrong side of this issue.
"The Right was just as bad" is total nonsense. Christians disliking the obscene humor of Dan Carlin and a handful of hysterical housewives wanting to ban Harry Potter and D&D doesn't even enter the realm of Leftist/Progressive authoritarianism that has taken over federal, state and local government, major corporations, mainstream news media, Hollywood, entertainment and academia, and wants to control and persecute anyone who doesn't fall in line with their delusional and capricious edicts.
He also has a bad take on January 6 and restricted the video he had comparing leftists to nazis - forgot the actual song
I think you’re talking about “Punch a Nazi.” I didn’t realize he restricted the video. It’s a damn shame, since that was song was classic.
Anyway, I think Vaush’s persuasiveness comes down to the fact that he’s unfortunately fairly intelligent but also entirely dishonest, and his own audience doesn’t seem concerned with holding him to truth and integrity standards at all. If they continue to turn on him though, wonderful.
The biggest problem is when he starts throwing around arguments that sound good on the surface against someone unfamiliar with his character. And those arguments are fired off in quick succession giving the person no time to check their consistency or merit.
If they knew Vaush has admitted that he has no interest in being a “principled socialist” and that his only principle is “winning as a socialist,” I doubt they’d take anything he says seriously. He’s willing to lie repeatedly to advance his positions, and other leftists don’t seem to care. His lies are coated in honeyed words and superficially intelligent sounding arguments.
In the end, his lack of integrity hollows out those arguments. But if you don’t know any better, they can certainly sound persuasive. It seems Chris likely fell victim to expecting arguments made in good faith, was bombarded with the opposite, and just went with it. More’s the shame.
Yup. It's very easy to persuade people to a position, when they haven't looked at the other side. Most of them too, once they've accepted the first position, won't even look at the other side fairly because they are too stupid, too proud, to admit that they were lied to.
The Skeptics really end up being a bunch of useless clowns, nearly all of them were pushed back into the arms of the left because of Trump. I've said it before and I'll say it again, never rely on people who aren't committed, because those people can easily swing back to the other side, and drop every single "value" they claimed to have.
My theory is that a lot of old 'skeptics' got too close to that inflection point where you start getting into wrongthink -- and so they tried to go another direction because that would largely be career suicide in their circles.
I'm not extremely well versed on the whole sphere of skeptics you're referring to, but I think it's what happened with Chris, at least.
I'm almost sure my brother follows him. He is the typical leftist who came over for my birthday a few weeks ago and spent time "teaching" me about the gender spectrum and how it differs from the sexual orientation spectrum.
It's unfortunately bad for us. He will still sway people to vote left. One of the thing I've seen a lot of liberals waking up to has been anti-white hatred.
Vaush is the alternative to follow if you still want all the other leftist ideologies, trans children, open borders, crazy feminism, communism but do not want to think about anti-white racism. It will still be there and those following him will still vote for if but they can do that while not thinking about it.
Like blacks would be capable of organizing enough to commit mass genocide. I know tribal loca genocide is something they are very comfortable with, though
Opposing ethnic cleansing of any race will always get you cancelled. Just note my many stormcuck fans triggered that I oppose the notion of violence, that anyone should be killed for their race or belief, or censored. Turns out those things are really no-no for the stormcucks, and their pink haired brothers.
But you haven't even told me what nonsense I'm preaching?!
I didn't even know I was preaching, so I need your help oh brilliant one to steer me back to reality! I can't unidiot if I don't even know how I am an idiot!
So I ask again, what am I preaching specifically that you take offense to?
But I've said nothing to the contrary of that. I simply called out your sanctimonious "woe is me" bullshit as what it is, an arrogant martyrdom complex.
You are so deep in your persecution delusion you are inventing things to justify yourself.
If you were broadly anti-genocide, then you would object to what's happening to white nations, peoples, and cultures
Yes, I do object. Find a quote where I said I didn't.
and you wouldn't be afraid to acknowledge who is disproportionately leading the charge.
Other whites? The Irish?
EDIT: Now I remember, you didn't answer why would Jews advocate for the migration of muslims(who loves nazis btw), who would then commit antisemitic attacks forcing or driving them out of Europe to Israel. Why can't you answer that? Maybe because it is a huge hole on your conspiracy theory?
I guess wanting to be left alone is somehow an act of aggression on par with the Holocaust. Now I know where the tranny advocates learned their strategy of hyperbolic hysteria.
Says the guy who advocates violence. Now I know where the antifa and their allies learned their strategy of hyperbolic hysteria.
Equally, and more politically awkward for many Jews, we must save the pro-immigration argument from its own most extreme and uncritical proponents
Hum, sounds like he is being white reasonable. But I ask, again, are Jews a monolith? If they are, so are whites, and whatever I find written by a white person advocating against your points I will use it as evidence that ALL whites think like that. Just like you are doing with Jews. If you are going to be a moron, then so be consistent.
that influential, Jewish-dominated institutions stop openly and aggressively subverting white nations, cultures, and peoples is met with your cries of "violence!"
Do I need to quote the death threats I received from you people? Or the times you people advocated for genocide?
anti-Semitism or globalism
What I want you to choose is reasonableness and ditch the conspiracy theories. You are that meme of a fat dudes wanting to think they are Aryan, but has a tinfoil hat and thinks they figure out a major conspiracy from their home, while the big iq "cabal" couldn't do anything to stop you from finding it out. I laugh each time I read these conspiracy theories. Because if they were true, they wouldn't have been found out by troglodytes, nor would these troglodytes even be online or these ideas be able to spread to other troglodytes.
You so "hate" to see Vaush getting his woke followers turn on him.
Truth be told, he is, sadly, very persuasive. It also happens that I hate him ever since he manager to turn Chris Ray Gun.
If he gets canceled by his own it would be worth celebrating in my book.
Did Chris go the way of the Vaush or did he just take too many shoes to the head. Or on the head. I wouldn’t know, since I stopped paying attention after one too many bad takes. Too many of the old “skeptics” seem to have gone in weird directions.
Chris was always pretty funny and entertaining to watch, but when you’re surrounded by socialists, you’re bound to get influenced in that direction.
He was on a Vaush stream and then suddenly he is more centrist. He is not left per say but take his "Six Days In Fallujah" for instance he spends a lot of time pointing out that the censorship from the left it was the same as the religious right. It seemed he was more concerned about that then the left trying to censor it.
He also has a bad take on January 6 and restricted the video he had comparing leftists to nazis - forgot the actual song.
I watched the Vaush video and I could tell how he was losing his stance. Vaush may be a pedophile communist but he is persuasive.
This argument usually comes from someone who is desperately clinging to the Left, and simply can't accept the fact that the Left were always on the wrong side of this issue.
"The Right was just as bad" is total nonsense. Christians disliking the obscene humor of Dan Carlin and a handful of hysterical housewives wanting to ban Harry Potter and D&D doesn't even enter the realm of Leftist/Progressive authoritarianism that has taken over federal, state and local government, major corporations, mainstream news media, Hollywood, entertainment and academia, and wants to control and persecute anyone who doesn't fall in line with their delusional and capricious edicts.
They did censor the original D&D. The supplement about demons was withdrawn, something like that.
They changed the name of demons / devils to tanari/ baatezu at the time. They've changed it back now.
wasnt that some copycuck nonsense
I think you’re talking about “Punch a Nazi.” I didn’t realize he restricted the video. It’s a damn shame, since that was song was classic.
Anyway, I think Vaush’s persuasiveness comes down to the fact that he’s unfortunately fairly intelligent but also entirely dishonest, and his own audience doesn’t seem concerned with holding him to truth and integrity standards at all. If they continue to turn on him though, wonderful.
The biggest problem is when he starts throwing around arguments that sound good on the surface against someone unfamiliar with his character. And those arguments are fired off in quick succession giving the person no time to check their consistency or merit.
If they knew Vaush has admitted that he has no interest in being a “principled socialist” and that his only principle is “winning as a socialist,” I doubt they’d take anything he says seriously. He’s willing to lie repeatedly to advance his positions, and other leftists don’t seem to care. His lies are coated in honeyed words and superficially intelligent sounding arguments.
In the end, his lack of integrity hollows out those arguments. But if you don’t know any better, they can certainly sound persuasive. It seems Chris likely fell victim to expecting arguments made in good faith, was bombarded with the opposite, and just went with it. More’s the shame.
Yup. It's very easy to persuade people to a position, when they haven't looked at the other side. Most of them too, once they've accepted the first position, won't even look at the other side fairly because they are too stupid, too proud, to admit that they were lied to.
He removed his punch a nazi song?
I think you can't search for it but if you have a link it is still there. Something along those lines.
The Skeptics really end up being a bunch of useless clowns, nearly all of them were pushed back into the arms of the left because of Trump. I've said it before and I'll say it again, never rely on people who aren't committed, because those people can easily swing back to the other side, and drop every single "value" they claimed to have.
My theory is that a lot of old 'skeptics' got too close to that inflection point where you start getting into wrongthink -- and so they tried to go another direction because that would largely be career suicide in their circles.
I'm not extremely well versed on the whole sphere of skeptics you're referring to, but I think it's what happened with Chris, at least.
Vaush is an amazing litmus test for midwits.
Did you find his hackneyed arguments compelling and without fault or contradiction?
Congratulations! You're an idiot.
Did you notice the myriad of holes in his argument, and/or how he split hairs over semantics to dodge certain topics?
Amazing! You might not be retarded.
Compared to other leftists he is persuasive. He seems evil not dumb.
I just don't get it. How can anyone take anything that guy says seriously after that cursed picture?
I'm almost sure my brother follows him. He is the typical leftist who came over for my birthday a few weeks ago and spent time "teaching" me about the gender spectrum and how it differs from the sexual orientation spectrum.
Vaush realizes that no matter his politics, he too is white and thus is up for being purged alongside the 'nazis'
It's unfortunately bad for us. He will still sway people to vote left. One of the thing I've seen a lot of liberals waking up to has been anti-white hatred.
a WHITE MALE.. too.
Good that an alarm's going off, but I strongly suspect he's going to hit the snooze button.
Like blacks would be capable of organizing enough to commit mass genocide. I know tribal loca genocide is something they are very comfortable with, though
They did it in Haiti under the direction of their definitely-not-jewish masters.
They killed their masters. Their allies were the English and Spanish kingdoms, opposing the French Revolution and later Napoleon's (colonial) empire.
Opposing ethnic cleansing of any race will always get you cancelled. Just note my many stormcuck fans triggered that I oppose the notion of violence, that anyone should be killed for their race or belief, or censored. Turns out those things are really no-no for the stormcucks, and their pink haired brothers.
Try not to trip when you come down off your cross to preach your gospel to us.
Don't worry. I will not.
Go preach your nonsense elsewhere.
Pray tell what nonsense you think I am preaching?
I am curious, since you seem to know everything about every one. Help me improve as a person and become sense instead of nonsense!
Easy, stop being an idiot, and cope harder.
But you haven't even told me what nonsense I'm preaching?!
I didn't even know I was preaching, so I need your help oh brilliant one to steer me back to reality! I can't unidiot if I don't even know how I am an idiot!
So I ask again, what am I preaching specifically that you take offense to?
That somehow there isn't an infestation of stormcucks here. That somehow I am the one who is the problem.
Eh, you have memory problems, that's understandable.
But I've said nothing to the contrary of that. I simply called out your sanctimonious "woe is me" bullshit as what it is, an arrogant martyrdom complex.
You are so deep in your persecution delusion you are inventing things to justify yourself.
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You do not want me to remove the use of the word "cuck"
That's not what this rule is for
Yes, I do object. Find a quote where I said I didn't.
Other whites? The Irish?
EDIT: Now I remember, you didn't answer why would Jews advocate for the migration of muslims(who loves nazis btw), who would then commit antisemitic attacks forcing or driving them out of Europe to Israel. Why can't you answer that? Maybe because it is a huge hole on your conspiracy theory?
Says the guy who advocates violence. Now I know where the antifa and their allies learned their strategy of hyperbolic hysteria.
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Hum, sounds like he is being white reasonable. But I ask, again, are Jews a monolith? If they are, so are whites, and whatever I find written by a white person advocating against your points I will use it as evidence that ALL whites think like that. Just like you are doing with Jews. If you are going to be a moron, then so be consistent.
Do I need to quote the death threats I received from you people? Or the times you people advocated for genocide?
What I want you to choose is reasonableness and ditch the conspiracy theories. You are that meme of a fat dudes wanting to think they are Aryan, but has a tinfoil hat and thinks they figure out a major conspiracy from their home, while the big iq "cabal" couldn't do anything to stop you from finding it out. I laugh each time I read these conspiracy theories. Because if they were true, they wouldn't have been found out by troglodytes, nor would these troglodytes even be online or these ideas be able to spread to other troglodytes.
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“Why is this monster I created coming after me!?!”
He must secure the existence of white children.