A wagie can't stand up. You even ask the wrong questions and you get fired for any number of made up reasons, or even legit reasons that would have been overlooked if you weren't a "troublemaker".
It happened to me in the 90s with "sexual harassment training". Didn't realize the minefield I was in an treated it like a big joke. I didn't hide my power level and pointed out repeatedly how stupid how stupid and contradictory it was which made most of room laugh. Wasn't dinged for it then but a week or so later and for the next 3 months before I got fired my manager (a woman) started bringing up (and writing me up for) all sorts of petty shit. Like I didn't follow the policy of logging myself out of the mainframe (which timed you out after 15 minutes of inactivity anyway), something everybody did. If I was more savvy I would have played the game to beat her but it was my second job and I wasn't because I didn't realize it was all a stage play.
If you stand up to this and they fire you, it means they're an overtly genocidal operation who wants you and your family dead. Working for them means enabling evil. Anyone who simply goes along with this because they're afraid of getting fired is using the "I was only following orders" excuse for voluntarily being a cog in a machine that wants to wipe the white race from the planet.
They are a part of my enemy, and that makes them my enemy. I have zero respect for anyone who participates in anti-white indoctrination because they're choosing their own temporary comfort over the future of western society.
Terrible, impractical advice and demands of OTHER PEOPLE to support your own self-interest. The progressives rule. Make your peace with that and either live by their rules or get away.
Interestingly, I had the same situation on the other side of the world, recently...
In Aus, if you're a full or even part-time worker, it is relatively difficult to fire you (because we don't have "at will" employment here, per se)...
So guess what employers did? They made everyone casual, or a "temp", no matter how many hours you're actually working, or how long you've been there...
Hence, in my horrible, but relatively-well paid public service job, where we were literally forcibly kept in our chairs by threat of termination (yes, it's illegal, but they didn't care), as soon as I stood up to my boss? Terminated on the spot, with no notice, and no recourse. And then humiliated and chased out of the building.
So yeah, amid all this, I stood up to the prick, and he threatened to punch me, and call the police to have me charged with trespass, if I "Didn't leave the building immediately"... This being before I even managed to get all my stuff out of the break room, mind...
Obviously I launched an official complaint, the same day, but do you think it went anywhere? Lol, of course fucking not...
So yeah, just thought I would, uhh, share that one, to say that this very much does happen in a country widely considered more "socialist" than America, with a "better" social safety net, and supposedly better employee "protections"...
Oh, and this was (older) white male on (younger) white male, btw, so... Can't really blame minority groups for that one, soz. Though he did specifically treat his female employees much, uhh, "better" (i.e. he was a creep), and certainly treated those employees his age (Boomer) much better than he treated me... But nonetheless. Guy was just a cunt, enabled by a system which rewards cunts (the public service).
But anyway, everyone knows about it, and the government/s (of all stripes) and courts literally could not even pretend to give less of a shit, lololol... :-(
Good perspective. In the US HR rather than government policy makes it hard to fire an employee.
I was talking with a manager friend about the relative ease of hiring temps/contractors vs. full-time and commented that "in 20 years we'll probably all be temporary". He was surprised by this and responded "but don't you see the value in a company having full-time employees?"
My response was "yes but what you incentivize you get more of, and right now all the incentives are heavily skewed towards hiring temps"
I'm from a post-commie central European country. I had a conversation with my mother maybe 10 years ago, she lived through nearly all of the Communist era and she was telling me to basically shut up and keep my thoughts to myself. I've always been opinionated, she knew it, and she was worried I'd shoot myself in the foot. Don't make waves, go with the flow, that sort of thing. I argued with her, because back then I thought she was only saying that because of the world she grew up in, and I genuinely thought it didn't work like that anymore, that things changed. Then I found a job with a US-based corporation and gradually I realized that she was right and I was wrong.
At the end of 1989, with the Velvet Revolution, we got rid of what we used to call "the cold wind blowing from the east". Now it's back, but it's blowing from the west. We'll manage, because we're the laughing beasts, and while our country's motto is officially "Truth prevails", the real one should be "Blow me" - but I really wish we didn't have to.
They don't care. I told my boss I wasn't on board with the social justice and implicit bias stuff, and he had me speak with his boss to see if the company could do anything. I didn't even say anything power-level revealing: I just described basic values that literally anyone who was born in the 80s would have been taught in school with regards to race relations: "equality of opportunity" and "colorblind society" tier stuff.
The response was (I'm paraphrasing but not by much) "OK well now people are starting to see that line of thinking as outdated and flawed"
They don't care. Your line of thinking is obsolete and to be discarded. Standing up to it would be like an atheist at church standing up against the priest while he's giving a sermon. At best they'll put up with you; at worst they'll just throw you out.
The fact that you offered any resistance whatsoever was as big of a power level reveal as throwing a sieg heil to these people. As soon as you think you know the answers, they become even more hysterical and change the questions.
This year we head new training with stuff like microaggression and protected class, this was on top of the LGBT and other crap. You could post feedback anonymously after the course but now I noticed that the feedback page no longer said anonymously, it may be just an error and it is still anonymous but I did not take the chance, considering the industry habit of having white males first to be fired when downsizing and COVID induced recession on the horizon I need to keep a low profile.
I wanted to point out in the feedback the same thing, you are basically asking us to treat people different based on race and gender and the end result is that no one will interact with others except when you had to and no personal connections will be formed and no desire to help others if you did not absolutely had to.
It was actually in the course that if a black person speaks you should think before interrupting or it could be a microaggression
We had that last year for the first time, and someone complained about something I said during the training. My response when my boss finished telling me I couldn't say what I said was "OK well I'm just never going to talk to this person ever again, and that will solve my problem."
This is the solution - just don’t engage these people. Working from home is a major plus here bc there is little to zero casual conversation where the crazies can look for their demons.
If you do your job well and avoid the nut jobs, you’ll advance into leader positions and be spared all of this nonsense.
I’ve been in business over 20 years and HR training is always just show up and check the box. I’ve been in leader roles for the past 10 years - stop engaging the people you know are problems and focus on your core objectives. This will guarantee you’re out of the transactional work bucket with all the other crabs. But you have to be smart and know what battles are worth your time.
Both sides of the coin are causing problems at work bc both sides are convinced they’re right. At the end of the day, they’re problem employees who cannot get along or focus and they will remain at the bottom bc they’re unable to perform at a high level due to their own stupid thoughts and hang ups regarding other people’s behavior.
If you choose to get in the mud with the nut jobs and sling it with them, that will be your job forever. It’s your choice.
Oh I've been working from home for far longer than this past year; it's the only thing that's kept me out of trouble this long.
That said it's the business that has decided to focus on "diversity" and "social justice" over its core objectives. They are the ones who have decided to break the truce, not I. From a moral standpoint, an employee responding to that isn't the one "causing trouble" any more than a pacifist employee responding to their employer deciding one day they're going to produce weapons is. Though from a tactical/survival standpoint it may not be wise to do so.
Anyways there are other ways to fight back then just slinging mud at the pigs.
They still do. Fringe leftist lunatics and right leaning tea party types were somewhat unified in outspoken criticism of banks and high finance, particularly in light of TARP and the financial crisis.
The elites had to silence the criticism. Enter Saint Trayvon Martin. Then, enter Mike Brown. You didn’t hear any criticism of banks in 2012 because the focus was on St. Trayvon.
Now there is a full on in-group/out-group psyop straight out of the Army Field Manual going on. The House of Morgan and its fearless leader Mr. Dimon operate with impunity. The other banks understand the score. “No proles, it isn’t the financilization of the world that has impoverished you, it’s that group right over there that has done it.” It’s a brilliant tactic.
That's not even remotely close to reality. Anti-bank sentiment peaked in 2010 after the 2008 crash and was mostly leftist commie fucks by 2012.
Trayvon was Obama starting the racial division that would continue his "legacy" and prepare the stage for BLM, women's way of exploiting that division to push CRT that favors them massively, because it's always "white men" who are hated. Never white women. You don't hear these "black supremacists" screaming repeal the 19th for being a deal between the matriarchy and the Klan. The whole thing is being co-ordinated by their people.
You can tell this easily by the fact that after his presidency, Obama stated his desire to see a world matriarchy.
It isn't banks that ruined our lives. It's the Branch Covidians (caused by a woman's "mistake" in China) and the female supremacist garbage that runs the country. Although that includes Citibank, so you can have partial credit.
I disagree. CRT and the matriarch lunacy are absolutely 100% not organic developments, they are classic divide and conquer strategies. Leftists embrace demoralization tactics like that because they see it as a lever of power, but what they fail to understand is the man behind the curtain who is promoting it is decidedly not a leftist. He is an oligarch who is saying to himself “thank fuck these assholes are attacking each other and not me.”
I’m not saying banks are horrible, lending is a critical function of an economy. However, if you see JPM, Goldman and Bank of America all agreeing on something that is completely nonsensical you can bet your ass that, to your original point, the motivation is green.
This is a cute narrative but it wasn’t close to what was happening. OWS was straight up leftist garbage in 2010 and set the stage up to make Communist advocacy cool again. It worked independently of the concurrent diversity push. Correlation =/= Causation.
There are some leftists but how it goes is someone higher up says that they need this training to keep up to date. This type of things have been for ever, they used to cover stuff like colorblindness and keeping politics, sports and religion out of the workplace.
The left just updated this type of courses to cover their own corrupted agenda. The higher ups still think of the money and do not even bother about this training
until there is backlash, similar with how it went with Coca Cola.
The side of the company that handles HR, activities and learning and the side that cares about profit are completely disconnected. As long as there is no major downside the HR part can do what ever they want, even if people leave in protest they will fill those spots in a few days. This is why companies seem to be hypocritical, the business part will do what ever they need to make profit and the HR one will put stupid leftist propaganda that sometimes is directly in conflict with business practices.
Yes, and then those employees go and make jokes to their customers about the left's opposition to voter ID laws. I got my first credit card through them and the guy who helped me was based.
blacks vote overwhelmingly for Biden. Biden lets Taliban re-build terrorist network that will eventually nuke millions of blacks (and whites). All OK because browns killing blacks is fine.
I hate to be blunt, but this is fairly normal for all large-scale banks in Aus... While at the same time they literally launder money for terrorists, fund all manner of thoroughly "non-environmentally-friendly" shit, and destroy lives through predatory lending...
B-b-but they (claim to be) woke, so it's all a-ok, right?
This is fucking woke capitalism at its worst, folks...
See also: supermarkets and (oddly) fast food, over here...
The industries you would least expect to be "woke" are busy trying to score woke points, and "out-woke" their competitors... It's a fucking shitshow, just as much here as in the States and elsewhere, at this point... :-/
I’m so sick of this. The fact money is wasted on this garbage is pretty eye opening
True but I’m honestly shocked people there aren’t standing up to this. Decolonize is such a stupid term.
A wagie can't stand up. You even ask the wrong questions and you get fired for any number of made up reasons, or even legit reasons that would have been overlooked if you weren't a "troublemaker".
It happened to me in the 90s with "sexual harassment training". Didn't realize the minefield I was in an treated it like a big joke. I didn't hide my power level and pointed out repeatedly how stupid how stupid and contradictory it was which made most of room laugh. Wasn't dinged for it then but a week or so later and for the next 3 months before I got fired my manager (a woman) started bringing up (and writing me up for) all sorts of petty shit. Like I didn't follow the policy of logging myself out of the mainframe (which timed you out after 15 minutes of inactivity anyway), something everybody did. If I was more savvy I would have played the game to beat her but it was my second job and I wasn't because I didn't realize it was all a stage play.
If you stand up to this and they fire you, it means they're an overtly genocidal operation who wants you and your family dead. Working for them means enabling evil. Anyone who simply goes along with this because they're afraid of getting fired is using the "I was only following orders" excuse for voluntarily being a cog in a machine that wants to wipe the white race from the planet.
They are a part of my enemy, and that makes them my enemy. I have zero respect for anyone who participates in anti-white indoctrination because they're choosing their own temporary comfort over the future of western society.
Terrible, impractical advice and demands of OTHER PEOPLE to support your own self-interest. The progressives rule. Make your peace with that and either live by their rules or get away.
Interestingly, I had the same situation on the other side of the world, recently...
In Aus, if you're a full or even part-time worker, it is relatively difficult to fire you (because we don't have "at will" employment here, per se)...
So guess what employers did? They made everyone casual, or a "temp", no matter how many hours you're actually working, or how long you've been there...
Hence, in my horrible, but relatively-well paid public service job, where we were literally forcibly kept in our chairs by threat of termination (yes, it's illegal, but they didn't care), as soon as I stood up to my boss? Terminated on the spot, with no notice, and no recourse. And then humiliated and chased out of the building.
So yeah, amid all this, I stood up to the prick, and he threatened to punch me, and call the police to have me charged with trespass, if I "Didn't leave the building immediately"... This being before I even managed to get all my stuff out of the break room, mind...
Obviously I launched an official complaint, the same day, but do you think it went anywhere? Lol, of course fucking not...
So yeah, just thought I would, uhh, share that one, to say that this very much does happen in a country widely considered more "socialist" than America, with a "better" social safety net, and supposedly better employee "protections"...
Oh, and this was (older) white male on (younger) white male, btw, so... Can't really blame minority groups for that one, soz. Though he did specifically treat his female employees much, uhh, "better" (i.e. he was a creep), and certainly treated those employees his age (Boomer) much better than he treated me... But nonetheless. Guy was just a cunt, enabled by a system which rewards cunts (the public service).
Anyway, yeah. That's my story for the day, lol.
Further reading on this issue (here), if anyone wants it: https://newintrigue.com/2018/06/13/the-systematic-mistreatment-of-casual-workers/
But anyway, everyone knows about it, and the government/s (of all stripes) and courts literally could not even pretend to give less of a shit, lololol... :-(
Good perspective. In the US HR rather than government policy makes it hard to fire an employee.
I was talking with a manager friend about the relative ease of hiring temps/contractors vs. full-time and commented that "in 20 years we'll probably all be temporary". He was surprised by this and responded "but don't you see the value in a company having full-time employees?"
My response was "yes but what you incentivize you get more of, and right now all the incentives are heavily skewed towards hiring temps"
Interesting that you already have that in Aus.
I'm from a post-commie central European country. I had a conversation with my mother maybe 10 years ago, she lived through nearly all of the Communist era and she was telling me to basically shut up and keep my thoughts to myself. I've always been opinionated, she knew it, and she was worried I'd shoot myself in the foot. Don't make waves, go with the flow, that sort of thing. I argued with her, because back then I thought she was only saying that because of the world she grew up in, and I genuinely thought it didn't work like that anymore, that things changed. Then I found a job with a US-based corporation and gradually I realized that she was right and I was wrong.
At the end of 1989, with the Velvet Revolution, we got rid of what we used to call "the cold wind blowing from the east". Now it's back, but it's blowing from the west. We'll manage, because we're the laughing beasts, and while our country's motto is officially "Truth prevails", the real one should be "Blow me" - but I really wish we didn't have to.
They don't care. I told my boss I wasn't on board with the social justice and implicit bias stuff, and he had me speak with his boss to see if the company could do anything. I didn't even say anything power-level revealing: I just described basic values that literally anyone who was born in the 80s would have been taught in school with regards to race relations: "equality of opportunity" and "colorblind society" tier stuff.
The response was (I'm paraphrasing but not by much) "OK well now people are starting to see that line of thinking as outdated and flawed"
They don't care. Your line of thinking is obsolete and to be discarded. Standing up to it would be like an atheist at church standing up against the priest while he's giving a sermon. At best they'll put up with you; at worst they'll just throw you out.
The fact that you offered any resistance whatsoever was as big of a power level reveal as throwing a sieg heil to these people. As soon as you think you know the answers, they become even more hysterical and change the questions.
Yes I don't recommend people do that unless they are prepared to be fired. Which I was.
This year we head new training with stuff like microaggression and protected class, this was on top of the LGBT and other crap. You could post feedback anonymously after the course but now I noticed that the feedback page no longer said anonymously, it may be just an error and it is still anonymous but I did not take the chance, considering the industry habit of having white males first to be fired when downsizing and COVID induced recession on the horizon I need to keep a low profile.
I wanted to point out in the feedback the same thing, you are basically asking us to treat people different based on race and gender and the end result is that no one will interact with others except when you had to and no personal connections will be formed and no desire to help others if you did not absolutely had to.
It was actually in the course that if a black person speaks you should think before interrupting or it could be a microaggression
We had that last year for the first time, and someone complained about something I said during the training. My response when my boss finished telling me I couldn't say what I said was "OK well I'm just never going to talk to this person ever again, and that will solve my problem."
This is the solution - just don’t engage these people. Working from home is a major plus here bc there is little to zero casual conversation where the crazies can look for their demons.
If you do your job well and avoid the nut jobs, you’ll advance into leader positions and be spared all of this nonsense.
I’ve been in business over 20 years and HR training is always just show up and check the box. I’ve been in leader roles for the past 10 years - stop engaging the people you know are problems and focus on your core objectives. This will guarantee you’re out of the transactional work bucket with all the other crabs. But you have to be smart and know what battles are worth your time.
Both sides of the coin are causing problems at work bc both sides are convinced they’re right. At the end of the day, they’re problem employees who cannot get along or focus and they will remain at the bottom bc they’re unable to perform at a high level due to their own stupid thoughts and hang ups regarding other people’s behavior.
If you choose to get in the mud with the nut jobs and sling it with them, that will be your job forever. It’s your choice.
Oh I've been working from home for far longer than this past year; it's the only thing that's kept me out of trouble this long.
That said it's the business that has decided to focus on "diversity" and "social justice" over its core objectives. They are the ones who have decided to break the truce, not I. From a moral standpoint, an employee responding to that isn't the one "causing trouble" any more than a pacifist employee responding to their employer deciding one day they're going to produce weapons is. Though from a tactical/survival standpoint it may not be wise to do so.
Anyways there are other ways to fight back then just slinging mud at the pigs.
Exactly. The progressives rule. Either abide by their rules or get out. They will not tolerate malcontents.
I miss when the finance industry was full of people who cared about nothing but green.
They still do. Fringe leftist lunatics and right leaning tea party types were somewhat unified in outspoken criticism of banks and high finance, particularly in light of TARP and the financial crisis.
The elites had to silence the criticism. Enter Saint Trayvon Martin. Then, enter Mike Brown. You didn’t hear any criticism of banks in 2012 because the focus was on St. Trayvon.
Now there is a full on in-group/out-group psyop straight out of the Army Field Manual going on. The House of Morgan and its fearless leader Mr. Dimon operate with impunity. The other banks understand the score. “No proles, it isn’t the financilization of the world that has impoverished you, it’s that group right over there that has done it.” It’s a brilliant tactic.
That's not even remotely close to reality. Anti-bank sentiment peaked in 2010 after the 2008 crash and was mostly leftist commie fucks by 2012.
Trayvon was Obama starting the racial division that would continue his "legacy" and prepare the stage for BLM, women's way of exploiting that division to push CRT that favors them massively, because it's always "white men" who are hated. Never white women. You don't hear these "black supremacists" screaming repeal the 19th for being a deal between the matriarchy and the Klan. The whole thing is being co-ordinated by their people.
You can tell this easily by the fact that after his presidency, Obama stated his desire to see a world matriarchy.
It isn't banks that ruined our lives. It's the Branch Covidians (caused by a woman's "mistake" in China) and the female supremacist garbage that runs the country. Although that includes Citibank, so you can have partial credit.
I disagree. CRT and the matriarch lunacy are absolutely 100% not organic developments, they are classic divide and conquer strategies. Leftists embrace demoralization tactics like that because they see it as a lever of power, but what they fail to understand is the man behind the curtain who is promoting it is decidedly not a leftist. He is an oligarch who is saying to himself “thank fuck these assholes are attacking each other and not me.”
I’m not saying banks are horrible, lending is a critical function of an economy. However, if you see JPM, Goldman and Bank of America all agreeing on something that is completely nonsensical you can bet your ass that, to your original point, the motivation is green.
This is a cute narrative but it wasn’t close to what was happening. OWS was straight up leftist garbage in 2010 and set the stage up to make Communist advocacy cool again. It worked independently of the concurrent diversity push. Correlation =/= Causation.
There are some leftists but how it goes is someone higher up says that they need this training to keep up to date. This type of things have been for ever, they used to cover stuff like colorblindness and keeping politics, sports and religion out of the workplace.
The left just updated this type of courses to cover their own corrupted agenda. The higher ups still think of the money and do not even bother about this training until there is backlash, similar with how it went with Coca Cola.
The side of the company that handles HR, activities and learning and the side that cares about profit are completely disconnected. As long as there is no major downside the HR part can do what ever they want, even if people leave in protest they will fill those spots in a few days. This is why companies seem to be hypocritical, the business part will do what ever they need to make profit and the HR one will put stupid leftist propaganda that sometimes is directly in conflict with business practices.
"decolonize your mind" lul wtf does that even mean
There's a tiny invisible Hitler in your brain, and you have to get it out!
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Finally, someone who can banish this Jackie Chan tulpa
“Adopt progressive values and ideals or pay the consequences.”
So what are they gonna do when their bank gets robbed? Call a social worker?
No, call Pinkerton and Blackwater.
I'll wait for the documents to condemn them, but they're a terrible bank anyway. Are there any non-compromised banks?
The memes should auto-populate at this point.
He's 100% wrong.
Nothing he could reveal would shock me at this point.
I worked for those Faggots for 5 years. It was inevitable. They were the original diversity hiring bank.
Yes, and then those employees go and make jokes to their customers about the left's opposition to voter ID laws. I got my first credit card through them and the guy who helped me was based.
blacks vote overwhelmingly for Biden. Biden lets Taliban re-build terrorist network that will eventually nuke millions of blacks (and whites). All OK because browns killing blacks is fine.
Early life check on BoA?
I hate to be blunt, but this is fairly normal for all large-scale banks in Aus... While at the same time they literally launder money for terrorists, fund all manner of thoroughly "non-environmentally-friendly" shit, and destroy lives through predatory lending...
B-b-but they (claim to be) woke, so it's all a-ok, right?
This is fucking woke capitalism at its worst, folks...
See also: supermarkets and (oddly) fast food, over here...
The industries you would least expect to be "woke" are busy trying to score woke points, and "out-woke" their competitors... It's a fucking shitshow, just as much here as in the States and elsewhere, at this point... :-/