I hear good things about it but sadly I’ve become suspicious of any adaptations made in the time we live in. I have the next two books and may just stick to that. Zendaya as well is like the poster child for race swapping.
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Cue the latest shill article about how Dune was always a narrative about the black experience
Dagestanis are very varied ethnically but what "look russo-turkish"? They're usual typical Caucasians, similar to Chechens (and sometimes are Chechens, and Shamil's Dagestan included the highland Chechnya).
(Usual > usually)
It is set so far in the future that none of the races would even be recognizable today. As long as there isn't wokeness, I'm cool with a diverse cast.
In case you haven't noticed race separation happened organically. There is no reason to believe it would converge. Rather further differentiation is likely.
Under normal circumstances I'd agree with ya, but Dune is a special case because it's hard to imagine anyone could possibly do it worse than it's already been done.
If they manage to fuck it up it would just be another skull on the pile for that particular franchise.
Fetal manatee barfing lasers.
Man, I love the Lynch 1984 version. It's craptacular and weird, but it's got some great parts and, imho, is a lot of fun. Paul is great. True to the book it is not.
I haven't seen the 2000 miniseries in some time, but it was OK. I remember thinking Princess Irulan was hot.
Lynch got the casting right and then let his creatives overcook things.
Harrison got the story right but the acting wasn't great and the effects couldn't make up for the bland performance.
I watched it in college. It was quite dull
I didnt mind the 1984 version. Sure it wasnt true to the book but what movie ever is.
I know it wasn't really a question but oddly, Silence of the Lambs was the only movie I can think of that was nearly word for word of the book. It's so close that the book reads like a novelization of the movie even though it came first.
Story is told from the perspective of Bene Gesserit and how they are pure good and everybody else is evil because Y chromo. In the end Paul announces he always felt like a Bene and transitions to female.
Yeah but how are the battles and effects?
We've got two versions of it already I can redub the audio.
Isn't the whole book told from the perspective of A Bene Gesserit?
It's been like 30 years since I read it. I thought Paul Maud'dib was the main character and bene gesserit were a female only order, but idk.
The beginning of the book is the same as the beginning of the movie, IIRC. Paul is the main character, but Irulan is recounting the story.
Thanks. A good friend of mine is a huge fan of the books and insists that they won’t do the typical Hollywood things with this movie.
If you haven't seen Dune (1984) and Dune (2000), you can't possibly understand just how low the bar is set for this project to be called a success.
I saw the 84 movie in late 80s when I was in the first grade
K.
Have you watched it SINCE then?
No. I’ve been meaning to but wanted to read the book.
Then I think thirty years of distance is blurring your memory of it a bit.
This is how Dune (1984) happened...
Yes
We can only hope. I was watching the trailer today and my first thought was they’re going to be destroyed by “white savior” accusations. Would be a very special case if the studio somehow resists countering that
At first I agreed with you, as I remembered the original source material was actually not all that good to start with.
But remember, The Progressives are not trying to create a good Dune story. They are trying to burn down all that you love and drown what you cherish in swimming pools of shit and vomit.
But remember, the director is trying to avoid having his career demolished like wot happened to Lynch.
This is a franchise that ALREADY HAD its Last Jedi moment decades ago.
Chani has red hair (Ghanima is described as having red hair like her mother), so it was inevitable.
I'd recommend stopping at Dune. Messiah and Children of Dune were alright, just to kind of see how Paul's story played out, but after that it just gets stupid.
The last book was a whole shitload of nothing happening (seriously -- a planet's climate changing was the main "driver" of the story) as a lead up to some (rather disturbing) sex and then this grand plan that was hinted at but that the reader was never really 100% informed of completes itself in a way that I had to read twice but still wasn't sure of what had happened.
Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I enjoyed Dune. But since I already bought Messiah and Children of Dune I’ll read them. You gonna watch the movie?
Probably not. I almost never watch new movies; pretty much everything produced after 2010 has been high budget but shallow garbage.
I think since 2010 I've been coerced into seeing John Wick, Joker, Deadpool, Little Women, and ... I dunno. I'd rather watch some bad low-budget 70s and 80s sci-fi than the stuff dominated by overpaid, ego-inflated assholes that Hollywood pumps out now.
Budget was not the problem for Dune (1984), they had plenty of money. That's what makes it such a horrid spectacle. Dune (2000) was the one that was done on a shoestring budget and it's chief sin is that it's boring.
I'd read the fourth book, too. After that, nope right out.
I dunno, I remember tearing all the way through to Chapterhouse when I was younger and enjoying it for the sci-fi spectacle that it was. Going back to reread it years later however I lost momentum early in Children of Dune.
Dosadi Experiment was a pretty weird trip if you're looking to experience more Frank Herbert but don't need it to be more Dune.
Denis Villeneuve is a good filmmaker, so Dune has a better chance than most movies released in 2021. The genderswapping is, of course, a huge red flag.
People are overly harsh on the original Dune movie.
Yeah! It's very flawed (weirding module? bald ladies? disgusting boil-covered Harkonnens?), but all-in-all, I'm a big fan of the original movie. Love the music. Fantastic cinematography. Some great scenes.
Have you seen it?
I will not be watching.
Hollywood can't fuck up my favorite books and past movies with shitty remakes if I don't watch them. Ditto for the Amazon Lord of the Rings shit.
I'm more hopeful of the movie then I am for other adaptations. But I still expect it to suck.
84 Dune started as a four hour epic that got cut down and reworked so it could be shown in a theatre. Didn't work. I liked the expanded version that was on TV in the late eighties or early nineties. It was coherent at least. The 2000's mini series was good but the acting, and special effects didn't do much for me, though Children of Dune worked for some reason. I've read the books, am aware of the video games, and may watch this new thing if it comes on TV or free on a streaming service. I'll probably just re-watch the old ones instead.
Brian Tyler singlehandedly saved Children of Dune.
Frankly I think it's his best work. He wasn't yet contaminated with Danny Elfman syndrome.
I'm sure the visual world building will be on par with the Harry Potter and LOTR movies.
That nose breathing prop is a slick design. Bet there will be some great costumes and CGI backdrops.
I've avoided the trailers because I don't want spoilers.