It's the same two-faced shit places like the UK pull. "here's a benefit while you're young, but you've got to ruin your life permanently to keep these crumbs!"
If everyone thinks you're a radical, then nobody will ever listen to your reasonable takes. That's a manipulation tactic straight out of the woman book, faking sanity to foot in the door before unleashing the full beast.
As I've said before, your ability to sell your own rhetoric is so bad it straight up helps feminists by making us look as loony as they claim.
Those statistics are horrifically skewed because of what generation did that.
It's like when people say "over half of white women voted Trump, it's a race thing, not gender" but neglect to mention that a majority of those voters were at least over 50.
A lot of young people want several kids, but finding a mate and being able to afford them is a pretty big hinderance. If they really want to see it go up encourage trade schools and increase the number to 30 for married couples
Their population was such an issue that the Communists forced them to have less kids, saying everyone would starve to death.
Imagine that in Europe, the screeching about men "controlling" women would be absolutely deafening and we'd all end up actually starving to death because of their unwillingness to do anything for society.
Everyone was going to starve to death because the communist party screwed up and killed anyone good at farming causing food shortages. The issues wasn’t over population but central planning caused food shortages.
Nothing is better for a society than the productive, desirable groups forgoing population maintenance to compensate for the undesirable groups outbreeding them at an alarming rate.
Tell me you're a white nationalist without saying you're a white nationalist.
If wanting European ethnic groups and culture to remain dominant in Europe makes me a white nationalist, then sure.
It's not a race thing.
Entirely ignoring race, mass importing members of societies with fundamentally different cultures, religions, values and norms who fail to meet the criteria for legal immigration is a hard to justify premise. The go-to justification used, albeit demonstrably false, is that doing so offsets the sub-replacement population growth rate of Europe, forestalling the welfare crisis. This is why I take issue with your stance.
I love the irony of people who will gladly call out entire races for having high levels of crime, but are strangely silent when it is revealed that our "better halves" are the cause, as well as the people preventing it being solved.
What was the black crime rate before women backstabbed all the men in their entire race (boy, that sounds familiar, doesn't it.) for LBJ checks?
Good luck with that. You'll have crumbling roads, crumbling schools and get the crappy American style healthcare because they won't have enough money for Universal health care
Do you hear what I hear? Child labor camp time! They can work the fields and factories to reap the most of the tax benefit, then at 26, start into education!
Novák also said that the tax exemption dovetails with the tax break for young married couples, which kicks in at the age of 25. Parliament approved the change with 166 yes votes, one no and zero abstentions.
Because young men are the perfect mark for predatory women looking for a payday.
It effectively is like giving a child training wheels, then ripping them off in the middle of the night and forcing them to ride their bike through oncoming traffic on a major highway.
Young men aren’t the ones who would be targeted by gold diggers since they normally don’t have much money in the first place, and those who do are able to afford the taxes and stay single if they want to. As for those training wheels, they used to be ripped off at 18. Now young Hungarians have 7 more years to reach financial stability or contribute to the country’s demography by getting married.
Consider that women are more likely than men to get a college degree, yet are much more likely to get a degree in a field effectively useless to any kind of a career, and are significantly less likely to stay in the workforce for any length of time. Men go to college to get a degree they will use to make money. Women go to college to meet those men.
So much for women not being gold diggers then. And when your wife divorces you and takes half your money and half your future income and you receive nothing in return, tell me more about how great marriage is.
That's such a dumb take. You would rather give more of your money to the government than less money. I doubt you had gold diggers after you at 22 unless you come from a wealthy family. You sound like you're bitter about a breakup.
If you oversimplify it like that, it's dumb, but entire industries are built on the psychological effect I'm describing.
I did and I am from a wealthy family, but nobody except for people here know that and you all don't know who I am. Maybe my definition of a gold digger is different to yours.
No, I'm not bitter about a breakup. Why is that a default response?
Eh, like it or not that's how humans mate. Yes, women have unfair advantages in some areas. Women have more power in the breeding market. Men have to work harder. It's like you're fighting nature.
They let you get used to having full income, then pull the rug out from under you unless you marry.
Genuinely evil manipulation tactics, they know people's spending will edge up over time with the extra they're being allowed to have, and then they'll give in to evil to keep it.
I'm sure you will defeat woke feminists by worrying about your portfolio one of these days.
If I manage to predict the market crash correctly, I will. The Misogyny is Not Real Foundation™ will exist and you'll all be invited to the opening of my HQ.
All these tradcons wanting to get married don't realize there's a good chance they'll also die alone after having lost everything in divorce court and watching a narcissist raise their kids to hate them. But hey, someone's got to take the hit for muh birth rate.
This is what a government for the people looks like.
It's the same two-faced shit places like the UK pull. "here's a benefit while you're young, but you've got to ruin your life permanently to keep these crumbs!"
Nope. They are incentivizing the creation of families, which is the best thing any society can do.
I do wonder what you believe to be a legitimate alternative; what does your ideal society look like?
His ideal society is dust in the wind. Human extinction is the only possible end result of what he believes.
How? Unless you have a population like Italy's that is heavily skewed towards the elderly, you're better off taking the taxes.
I think I already talked about it. I'm not as radical as everyone thinks I am.
We don't think you're radical, we think you're retarded
If everyone thinks you're a radical, then nobody will ever listen to your reasonable takes. That's a manipulation tactic straight out of the woman book, faking sanity to foot in the door before unleashing the full beast.
As I've said before, your ability to sell your own rhetoric is so bad it straight up helps feminists by making us look as loony as they claim.
People under 25 pay practically no taxes. There are also strong hints that starting a stable family relatively young leads to best outcomes.
Those statistics are horrifically skewed because of what generation did that.
It's like when people say "over half of white women voted Trump, it's a race thing, not gender" but neglect to mention that a majority of those voters were at least over 50.
If you say so. However, it's a fact that people have always married younger than in this century. One wonders if we're not tuned for it.
We are pretty sure your beliefs are “women want men dead or enslaved” which is a pretty dumb and radical belief system
Good, now do it for everyone over 25.
They want native Hungarians to have 5+ kids. That doesn't happen when women are getting married at 35.
You don't need a tax incentive for that, you need a cultural adjustment. You'd be better off banning feminism and abortion, than playing with taxes.
Banning the income tax is just a good policy altogether.
A lot of young people want several kids, but finding a mate and being able to afford them is a pretty big hinderance. If they really want to see it go up encourage trade schools and increase the number to 30 for married couples
Sounds reasonable to me. Also, reduce restrictions a bit on child labor. Let kids provide income for their families.
People will have kids in a good economy and a good place to settle down. Their kids will likely have a place in the economy too.
If you need baby quotas, run a government breeding camp. Good luck with your new centrally-planned labor force though.
So it's mostly going to migrants as expected.
Nothing is better for your society than massive population growth, just ask China.
/s
Right, because that's what China's problem is, their population. Not the fact that they're run by Communists.
Their population was such an issue that the Communists forced them to have less kids, saying everyone would starve to death.
Imagine that in Europe, the screeching about men "controlling" women would be absolutely deafening and we'd all end up actually starving to death because of their unwillingness to do anything for society.
Everyone was going to starve to death because the communist party screwed up and killed anyone good at farming causing food shortages. The issues wasn’t over population but central planning caused food shortages.
Nothing is better for a society than the productive, desirable groups forgoing population maintenance to compensate for the undesirable groups outbreeding them at an alarming rate.
If you want less criminals, deal with single mothers. It's not a race thing.
If wanting European ethnic groups and culture to remain dominant in Europe makes me a white nationalist, then sure.
Entirely ignoring race, mass importing members of societies with fundamentally different cultures, religions, values and norms who fail to meet the criteria for legal immigration is a hard to justify premise. The go-to justification used, albeit demonstrably false, is that doing so offsets the sub-replacement population growth rate of Europe, forestalling the welfare crisis. This is why I take issue with your stance.
It's possible for something to have more than one cause.
I love the irony of people who will gladly call out entire races for having high levels of crime, but are strangely silent when it is revealed that our "better halves" are the cause, as well as the people preventing it being solved.
What was the black crime rate before women backstabbed all the men in their entire race (boy, that sounds familiar, doesn't it.) for LBJ checks?
But how would they blackmail you into marriage?
Trads win again.
Next thing we know they'll demand a minimum wage for married couples.
"Why hey there mister bachelor tax when did you get to the party?"
Why tax anyone?
Pay for the public services you want.
This is how representative government should work. No need for politicians, literally just allocate your taxes for for what you want.
Good luck with that. You'll have crumbling roads, crumbling schools and get the crappy American style healthcare because they won't have enough money for Universal health care
i'd willingly give up my money if i knew exactly where it went and saw the exact results and saw that they were satisfactory
wtf would i do with all my money in such a society anyway? buy luxury cars and watches with no roads to drive on?
Give it a few years.
The U,S, should do this.
income tax is immoral
Not bad for a shithole country
Do you hear what I hear? Child labor camp time! They can work the fields and factories to reap the most of the tax benefit, then at 26, start into education!
What's the catch?
Oh, right.
How is that a catch? It incentivizes marriage at a young age.
Because young men are the perfect mark for predatory women looking for a payday.
It effectively is like giving a child training wheels, then ripping them off in the middle of the night and forcing them to ride their bike through oncoming traffic on a major highway.
Young men aren’t the ones who would be targeted by gold diggers since they normally don’t have much money in the first place, and those who do are able to afford the taxes and stay single if they want to. As for those training wheels, they used to be ripped off at 18. Now young Hungarians have 7 more years to reach financial stability or contribute to the country’s demography by getting married.
Consider that women are more likely than men to get a college degree, yet are much more likely to get a degree in a field effectively useless to any kind of a career, and are significantly less likely to stay in the workforce for any length of time. Men go to college to get a degree they will use to make money. Women go to college to meet those men.
We used to say “she’s going for her Mrs. Degree”
And that's how it ought to be in a traditional, conservative society. Men are supposed to be the moneymakers in a family.
In a real traditional society, women should be at home with a family, not waste her fertile years getting indoctrinated in university.
So much for women not being gold diggers then. And when your wife divorces you and takes half your money and half your future income and you receive nothing in return, tell me more about how great marriage is.
I'm pretty sure it's implied that no fault divorce would also be nixed in a traditional society by the above posters.
That's cute, TheImpossible1 has an alt account.
Letting someone get used to something that won't stay forever is worse than not having it at all.
I had gold diggers after me at 22.
That's such a dumb take. You would rather give more of your money to the government than less money. I doubt you had gold diggers after you at 22 unless you come from a wealthy family. You sound like you're bitter about a breakup.
If you oversimplify it like that, it's dumb, but entire industries are built on the psychological effect I'm describing.
I did and I am from a wealthy family, but nobody except for people here know that and you all don't know who I am. Maybe my definition of a gold digger is different to yours.
No, I'm not bitter about a breakup. Why is that a default response?
Eh, like it or not that's how humans mate. Yes, women have unfair advantages in some areas. Women have more power in the breeding market. Men have to work harder. It's like you're fighting nature.
In some areas? In every area, and it's completely undeserved.
They let you get used to having full income, then pull the rug out from under you unless you marry.
Genuinely evil manipulation tactics, they know people's spending will edge up over time with the extra they're being allowed to have, and then they'll give in to evil to keep it.
His worldview is pure nihilism.
What future? I'm perfectly aware that I'll be "alone" and it doesn't even slightly matter to me.
PLTR lost 7% today, that matters to me.
If I manage to predict the market crash correctly, I will. The Misogyny is Not Real Foundation™ will exist and you'll all be invited to the opening of my HQ.
You will not be alone. You will be old and weak and at the mercy of whatever culture does have kids.
All these tradcons wanting to get married don't realize there's a good chance they'll also die alone after having lost everything in divorce court and watching a narcissist raise their kids to hate them. But hey, someone's got to take the hit for muh birth rate.
All "exemptions" for married couples are a bachelor tax written differently.
This is not even good bait.
Hope artificial wombs becomes a real possibility, would reduce the power women have over us
Perhaps.
I think the societal benefits would speak for themselves.