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US births drop significantly while its LGBT population increase rapidly during Trump administration (www.poetico.co)
posted 5 years ago by Jenningstatum 5 years ago by Jenningstatum +64 / -0
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– exilde 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

Sort of... we're accustomed to a certain standard of living that is difficult to support with children. Non-western immigrants do not have this problem, because the western standard of living so much better. They'll still have children, because their relative view of poverty is much different.

The biggest problem is the move from an agrarian culture to an urban/technological one. Children used to be an asset, and would increase productivity after the initial investment. Government policy has done a lot to make them a liability (other than the single mother scenario). Technology has also completely changed the labor dynamics of agriculture. We're victims of our own success in a lot of ways.

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– Ahaus667 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

This is a problem by government design. The reduction of individual wealth while importing people who thrive in poverty.

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– WhitePhoenix 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Children are an "asset" to the single mother because they can use them to get tax credits. But a liability to society because our tax dollars have to cover their abuse of the welfare state.

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– Jenningstatum [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

If just poverty matters about this, the question, why could the number of births be controlled in Obama era. And another point, to use immigrant filling the void gap of demography, the Trump admin. had tough approach towards immigrant.

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– exilde 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Not saying that the big gay monster isn't abusing children in a much more friendly social environment than 10 years ago. If immigration decreased under Trump, it would stand to reason that there were fewer anchor babies being born. Not sure the stats on that, though.

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– Isolated_Patriot 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

This is exactly what they did in Canada, too. The housing market is absolutely absurd here because it's been in effect for even longer. "Everyone should be renting" and "No one should own more than one house" and "no one should be wasting livable space on grass!" are actual arguments frequently made by much of the sheep here as the solution to the skyrocketing home rates.

One person even mentions letting more people build homes and the freak out that "Everyone would starve! We can't waste land on building more houses!"

Those are all common arguments I have heard from people complaining about not being able to afford a house.

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– stormybanks 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The Urban Growth Boundaries are horrible. It doesn't only affect urban areas either. All across Oregon, there is a shortage of houses. Prices are rocketing up, even in rural areas.

Recently, I made a table to compare median income with median house prices, and Oregon has the 3rd worst ratio in the country. #1 and #2 were Hawaii (understandably) and California.

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– KekistanPM 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Illegals be like: "Don't worry, we'll make up for your declining birth rates!"

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– MargarineMongoose 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

I hate this angle. I'm starting to see that narrative popping up in US media. "Oh native population has declining birthrates, guess we gotta import more people", as if an ever increasing population is desirable. I'd rather we have the population decline and housing become more affordable so we can have more stable family living situations and less crowded roads.

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– BandageBandolier 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

as if an ever increasing population is desirable. I'd rather we have the population decline and housing become more affordable so we can have more stable family living situations and less crowded roads.

That's because you live in the general population, you're not living above them all looking at every obedient citizen as another resource in your pocket. The plutocrats dictate the "increasing birthrates good!" narrative.

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– TallestSkil 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

starting

Only took you 50 years, I guess.

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– Isolated_Patriot 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

This is pretty much THE narrative in Canada. It's why every single party has an immigration plan that's worse than Xidens. Here they import them, then pay them to stay home, and give them monthly cash for each kid they have, while competing with each other over who can promise to import the most next year. He who promises the lowest immigration numbers is a racist, after all. Gotta pump those numbers up!!

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– throwawayaccount2037 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I'd rather we have the population decline and housing become more affordable so we can have more stable family living situations and less crowded roads.

I have a bridge to sell you if you think a lower population would bring down housing costs.

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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Ok, I'll bite. If you cut the population in half you now have a surplus of houses. Supply outstrips demand therefor price should go down. What are the external factors at play that would prevent this from happening?

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– throwawayaccount2037 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Greed.

EDIT: And I'll go on and further explain so I don't have to waste time giving you baby steps to understand what's really going on.

We're living in a corporate dystopia, you seem like the kind of person still too dense or stupid to get that.

Let me break this down for you some more: you were probably the kind of Lolbertarian who thought that getting rid of net-neutrality meant we would have more competition, which absolutely did not happen. Prices have gone up, competition is nowhere in sight, and the same duopolies/monopolies even rolled out new service agreements saying they could hike up prices or cancel your service whenever and however they please and if you don't like... too bad for you.

You're probably also the kind of simpleton who thought companies like Gab building their own [insert service here] would allow people an alternative to all the Left-wing owned/Big Tech social media service, when in reality all it did was push Gab and companies like Gab close enough to the edge of the open internet that they may as well be on the dark net.

That's not to mention that any company unwilling to kowtow to the Left have their payments cut off by the processors, donations upended by PayPal and their infrastructure shut down by AWS or Google.

So no, just because you cut the population in half doesn't mean things will be easier for the average Joe and Jane. The corporatocracy will ensure that doesn't happen.

Just like ending net neutrality did not bring more competition; creating alternative social media services did not disrupt the Big Tech oligarchs; and even with a slight decline in population over the years in San Francisco (e.g., https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/23130/san-francisco/population) housing costs continue to skyrocket astronomically (e.g., https://www.noradarealestate.com/blog/san-francisco-real-estate-market/) as the class divide widens.

This will never change, even when they enact their population control mechanisms to drastically reduce the amount of meat bags walking the green Earth. People who don't have now will continue to not have in the future, and people who already have more than enough now will have even more in the future.

As I said, if you think that once they merc half the population the housing costs will come down, I have a bridge to sell you.

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– elleand202 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Its because the economic ponzi schemes that the west has based both their economic policy and state fiscal policy all depend on ever increasing populations to sustain it. The only way the federal government affords social security for example is if there are more younger people paying into it than older people receiving the money.

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– BandageBandolier 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Not to mention that lockdowns and their economic fallout have been on the table for >9 months now, so plenty of people who could maybe currently support a child have decided to hold off because all security is out of the window, even down to getting proper medical care through the pregnancy being doubtful because of all the theatrical covid panic.

That most government "experts" expected birthrates to go up during these lockdowns is a hilarious indictment of how much of a failure government hiring practices are at hiring competence.

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– TallestSkil 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Trump deported literally no one. Are you really that brainwashed? There were 2.2 million net nonwhites added to the US under Trump IN IMMIGRATION ALONE. That number doesn’t account for illegal infants shat out by the 50,000,000 illegals already here.

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– TallestSkil 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Literally paid to post the same hoaxes in every single comment he makes, folks. Check his history for all the buzzwords. Like clockwork.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The world has to destroy itself before anyone will listen to this.

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– altmehere 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

LGBT population increase rapidly

I read something about this and IIRC the increase has been in the B and T, not the LG, which are relatively stable over the years. I'll have to see if I can find the source.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Makes sense.

If you want to, you can call yourself Bisexual if you've ever looked at someone of the same sex and found them attractive. Or if you pounded one twink faggot in the ass 20 years ago.

And now you can call yourself trans on an absolute fucking whim. No need to cross dress, no need to chop your cock off, take hormones or do anything. You can just call yourself trans and score some victim points. Maybe dye your hair and paint your nails and post them on twitter. You're trans and every day is a struggle. But you're SO STRONG. Wow.

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– elleand202 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I think that you are right, but I also think that there's been a massive increase in self-identifying "non binary" people, especially among zoomers. (IIRC some survey said something like 20% of zoomers identified as "non-binary".) And just like bi and trans, you don't need to do anything in order to claim to be non-binary. You can just put they/them in your bio and viola, you can now pretend to be LGBTWTFBBQ.

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– Lurker404 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Based on the recent census it tends to be blue states that have stagnating populations.

On a totally unrelated note, liberals have a disproportionate amount of mental health issues that potential children would be better off without.

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– WhitePhoenix 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

2020 pandemic = people aren't going out = fewer people getting it on.

Also too many millennials who are too scared to go to a hospital to give birth.

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– johnmic07 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It's a lot of things: feminism, men being pussies, immature/self-centered young adults, student debt, people brainwashed into thinking kids are bad, higher cost of living, glorification of gay culture, christians being pussies that are afraid of standing by christian beliefs, the pandemic, divorce rates, dating apps, and probably a dozen other things.

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– Rattatata 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Yea... let’s trust the CDC with numbers. Where did they get this information? From what I can tell, it is from a completely volunteer survey that I bet does not go outside major cities.

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– Pathologic3 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

But what could these (((organisations))) possibly stand to gain, you really think people come on the internet and tell lies?

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I'M SICK OF THEM PUTTING BASED FROGS IN THE WATER TURNING THE TEENS GAY!

EH! EH! EH!

I'M SICK OF THIS CRAP!

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– CptLightning 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Unironically yes. Hormonal birth control needs to be banned. There's so much estrogen and progesterone in the water supply now because women can't be held responsible for their own actions

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Honestly, I'm not even gonna disagree on that. I think women need to get off birth control for the betterment of human society. Men need to start wrapping that shit.

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– Jenningstatum [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

some people take natural things melancholy. They are just complaint about themselves with less care to understand anyone have they own burden. I believe type of those people must "resign" as living creatures.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Trump Derangement Syndrome causes the afflicted to remove themselves from the gene pool of future generations.

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– Seruna_Kanus 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Parasites need a host to corrupt in order to reproduce. Keep that in mind.

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– BandageBandolier 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Nice thing about archives is they also cut off most malware/tracking issues. So here you go

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