Don’t Accept Legal Challenge to All-Male Military Draft, DOJ Urges Supreme Court | Epoch Times
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...something that fractures liberals. Biden administration would rather not broach the topic for <some> reasons, while others like the ACLU decry this as bigotry.
I, for one, am against such constitutional misogyny.
I want to see women drafted and see them show us how "great" they are at combat.
They said they are equal or better to men, so let's test that.
How about we enslave 80% of men, cut their dicks off, require them to do all of the work and national defense. Then use the top 20% on apps like Tinder as rotating fuck-buddy harems? How about that instead? Becuase that's what they are doing and it is working.
Be low tier man: go trannie route or go trade school and toil to pay taxes, 70% of which is just wealth redistribution: FREE GIBS. When you are no longer useful, kill yourself or be a divorce-rape cuck for a 30s roastie to ensure her retirement plan. Be high tier man: Fuck buddies for 15-20 years then divorced-raped for woman's retirement.
Enjoy!
Failure to register with the Selective Service Board means you cant vote.
Or apply to Federal jobs iirc.
Or receive federal grants, such as for college. Better sign up for the Draft, Roastie, or you'll never get to take your Feminist Dance Queer Theory Perspectives course.
Hmmmmmm
Us men have been drafted long enough . lets draft only women for the next 100 years or so
Draft pregnant women.
Let them be drafted too. I can't wait for the parachute training, such a mess because they refused to listen to the white man in charge.
Gee thanks, but no thanks.
Women are already serving so there's no logic in not being eligible for the draft.
Ideally theyd be drafted into rear echelon roles. You know, where they're already serving.
There will never, ever be a day when 50% of the casualties in combat are women, or even close. The last Iraq was was around 3%. We're struggling to even pretend to be slightly fair here and require women to sign up for the draft, I guarantee society doesn't have the guts to force those women who are drafted to actually serve in roles as dangerous as men at the same rates as men, and I absolutely 100% guarantee society will never have the nerve to make pregnant women serve. Which means... any woman who doesn't want to serve can just get pregnant And then even get an abortion after a month or two, repeat as necessary. And that's assuming they can't get out of it by just failing a few physical tests that a man wouldn't get away with failing.
Any woman who doesn't want to serve will always have a way out, and the percentage of society who is even willing to admit that isn't 100% fair will always be miniscule.
Women are like those megacorps who get government bailouts. They have all the upsides, all the freedoms and rights, and none of the downsides, none of the restrictions or responsibilities.
And even conservative women are okay with this. None of them think it's important whatsoever to change that. Even if they might pay lip service to it if you ask them directly, they still never support anything that aims to change it.
Then why did Hillary Clinton tell us that women have always been the greatest victims of war? Checkmate, atheist.
They're not equal to the task.
Plenty of men serve in the rear echelon. The armed forces need people to do non combat tasks. Might as well use those who aren't suited to combat in the first place.
Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
Y'know, I guaran-fucking-tee you that if all of these blue-haired ultra-feminist twats that want to shit all over mens' rights had to register for Selective Service at age 18, just like us guys do in order to be able to register a FAFSA for Federal college aid, they'd damn sure change their tune and might even have changed their major from the ever-so-useless Intersectional Women's Studies.
They want equality, let them have full equality. Let them have to worry about Congress stirring the shit with other countries just like us guys have to. Let them deal with the government effectively having control over your future until you hit age 26.
Then don't stop there. No special exceptions for women in the military - if you can't match up to the standards that're set for the men, you either go back to remedial boot camp or you wash out. Plain and simple. If I were a dude in a mixed platoon, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to worry about whether my ass would have to be dragged out of the shit by someone I outweigh by a good 50+ pounds.
"No more unequal equality" should be the rallying cry behind this movement. If they want the rights and privileges that come with being on the same tier as men, they also have to deal with the same bullshit us men have to go through. None of this having your fun but still being able to play the pussy pass to get out of it.
Here's something I'm still puzzled about: on one hand, the American deep state/establishment wants to reinstate the endless wars ASAP, because they're very profitable. On the other hand this same apparatus is knowingly weakening the armed forces by feminizing it and pandering to trannies. Why the self-sabotage?
Or are the wars a short-term goal while demilitarization is the longer-term plan?
You can still have endless wars, even with trannies and women. The endless wars are for making billions and billions of dollars through funding military programs and buying military equipment. They don't care so much about winning. Notice how during Obama, ISIS was expanding despite so many drone bombings and stuff, and then Trump got in and annihilated them in a couple months? Because endless wars are for profit, not for winning or losing. They don't actually care that much, and superior technology makes sure they will always win anyway. Most of the actually "fighting" of these wars is done with a small group of people controlling autonomous drones to drop bombs on people.
A month ago (if not less) - We need to reform the military to accommodate more women in combat roles!
Today - No, it's not fair to draft women!
Pick a lane
That's the best thing about being on the left. You get to pick both and then complain about it to the people that have to suffer for your excess.
I think a lot of people here are missing the context of how the U.S. used draftees the last time there was a draft. Contrary to the bullshit and propaganda put out since the 60s, draftees into the U.S. armed forces were almost entirely put into support roles and many never even deployed to Vietnam. The U.S. military uses draftees to free up people who voluntarily enlisted to serve in combat roles instead. The old trope that Johnny gets drafted and a month later he's slinging a rifle in Nam is made up leftist nonsense.
So to that end, could a female serve as a dental tech or paralegal and the male who would otherwise fill those roles could fight instead? I think so. Women should be under the same societal obligations as men in order to be eligible for the same benefits that men have.
Having said all that, women have no place in combat.
Sounds to me like Supreme Court should not only take the challenge but automatically in favor of it. You don't get to manipulate the courts.
The problem with the 'haha, let it happen' is that the Left never admits it's wrong.
You'll be sending girls and actually feminine young mothers to die for decades...for what?
And if the US ever has a really serious war with a powerful opponent, like with China, gloating at the libs will be cold comfort as the US's women lose the war.
Just because I don't like drafting young women to spite feminists means I like young men dying.
Feminists are wrong about everything, I don't feel the need to try to live consistently with feminism.
You're quite possibly right about China, but I stand by the idea that making the army weaker to own the libs is short sighted.
We're talking about the draft here. Why would it exclude feminists?
It excludes college students. That's right, every single blue haired gender studies student: exempt. Your daughter who works as a receptionist or a saleswoman, though: off to fight jihadis. That's bullshit. You've confused women and feminists. Feminists agitated for all this crap. Women will get drafted.
Women should, can, and have been heavily involved with defeating the enemy, WWII Russia springs to mind.
But as regular combat troops, no way. There is no woman on earth who wants to be a part of that. Drafting women into combat ready military is N Koreas level stuff.
I knew this was coming years ago. Women in the battlefield, it is worth weeping for.
the soviets aren't something to aspire to.
Rofl.
I would LOVE to hear the argument against this that is not an admission that women are not useful in a front line military capacity.
Make service and the draft mandatory for voting. Let the gals show us how it's done.
You know there are plenty of us women who aren't part of that "they," right? You'd sacrifice the traditional homesteading/homeschooling ones because of this generalization? Or would you rather they keep fighting on the homefront for America's roots?
I've come to believe with more and more certainty every day that the goal of everything (women in combat, feminizing men, trans encouragement, extended public school hours, discouragement of marriage...) is the destruction of the family, so the state can raise our children. Don't give in to it out of bitterness.
Of course it is. They want children to be born and raised in creches, property of "everyone" and not their parents (under the cry of "children aren't proprety"; they don't consider public property to be "property" either, and that's why they think they can destroy public monuments and buildings with impunity.)
And yeah, I've always believed (as a female) that equality means just that. Females should be up for the draft, too. Maybe in some couples it would have been better for the wife to go and the husband to stay. :P
And it's interesting how the news never talked about all the women who were happy to quit the factories and go back home after WW2.
Depends on the population. One that's off the rails and overpopulated with no predators, no significant disease, and no selection could probably use an "antlerless hunt", as it were.
So you don't think women should have equal responsibilities as men. What rights are you willing to give up to make that fair?
Except, when it comes to women, it's not a small, vocal minority. You should check the percentages on what women support. At some point, men have to stop shielding women from the consequences of their actions. It's not noble to protect women who are treating you like garbage, but do it with a smile and soft words, and a pretense of innocence, and act as if the sacrifices they're forcing you to make imply you're noble nature.
You know why there are so many cucks in the world? So many of these degenerate relationships where 4 guys are in "polyamorous" relationships where they are all eating shit and giving up their dignity just to gain sexual access with a woman who is a 3-4/10? Why so many men are always quick to defend women even when they're being pieces of shit? Because things are actually slanted in women's favor in every single way. So even though she's about on par with them in reality or maybe even below them, the way things are set up socially/economically, her value is artificially inflated.
They sell you this narrative of what it means to be a good man. Like it's noble to constantly take it on the chin and still treat them like princesses. And men fall for it. Whether conservative or liberal.
And if you want to understand the destruction of the family. You have to understand hypergamy. Women always want someone higher in the social order than they are. But when you have gigantic salaries being handed to undeserving women, high positions that they didn't earn being given to them, and non-stop propaganda devaluing men and raising the value of women. You get women who have insane valuations of themselves, and who all think they belong with top 10% men. Women who make a lot of money still want a man who makes more than them, and view a man who makes them same amount as vastly inferior.
But even conservative women still buy in to all the liberal bullshit about building up women's self-esteem like it's too low or something. They still harshly reprimand any men who tell the truth about anything that would lower their value. They try to make it absolutely verboten, or like it's some great moral crime to mention that they get less attractive as they get older, or that being a single mother lowers their value, or even that being fat is gross. They support the fictions that artificially inflate their value. And they all support those things that are good for women at the expense of men, regardless of how unfair it is. All those divorce laws and child custody laws and taking taxes from men and giving them to women and everything. Shit even most conservative women support "gun control", and every single shitty liberal/leftist movement is primarily supported by women. They are also the main proponents of socialism/communism. But nobody will even acknowledge this, because they're afraid of standing on their own, and they know that even conservatives will attack someone who tells these truths.
People have way too much sympathy for women. They allow them to get away with virtually anything. And predictably, it creates a lot of shitty women. And in case you doubt this, just look at any research about biases. Women have an in-group bias toward other women, and men have an out-group bias toward women. And yet all we hear about is how bad women have it. Ironically, the only reason anyone even tolerates that constant complaining and bullshit about them being oppressed is precisely because it is UNTRUE. If it were true, nobody would listen to a word of that. You think in the middle east where women are actually somewhat oppressed, that people listen to women complaining about it? Obviously not. The more you hear about that kind of thing in your society, the less true it is.
People need to realize that you aren't living in a conservative world. So even if you want a setup like existed in the past, you can't have it. That's reality. All you're doing is allowing women to have all the benefits of liberal social and political policy, with none of the downsides, and still be protected against everything and treated like princesses. It's like companies who keep their windfalls and socialize their losses through government bailouts. They are experiencing none of the downsides of capitalism and the free market, and all of the upsides. This is what women do through the government as well. No matter what choices they make, even if they choose to get knocked up by some criminal scumbag piece of shit who abandons them, they still take men's tax money through the government to care for themselves. There are no negative consequences for shitty behavior of women. And not even conservatives will acknowledge it. They are more likely to attack the person pointing it out.
So I say, let women face some real consequences for once. This isn't even a real consequence. None of them will actually even be drafted.