The Department of Health and Human Services building in Washington, D.C., is one of the city's prime examples of brutalist architecture, which former President Donald Trump disparaged as "ugly."
I've seen death camps with better aesthetics, but the HHS is probably responsible for more death and suffering, so it's fitting.
Get used to ugly. Condition kids to expect to be given things, whether knowledge or sustenance, just by holding out a cupped hand and muttering "gimme link" like a caged ape. Get used to wearing a muzzle, and being muzzled. Get used to soul-less entertainment.
Scions of Cain, their ultimate grievance is with God and His creation. The fundamental nature of which requires them to strive and suffer in exchange for a conciousness that they despise, yet are too cowardly to end. And the knowledge of that cowardice further drives their hatred of anyone who is hopeful instead of bitter like they are.
The idiotic idealism of those who delude themselves into believing that they can make a life without suffering if they get the systems just right (and in the process necessarily destroy everything else, including human nature, morals and aesthetics).
The better-informed clever Cains, who use the former into making them a Tower of Babel where they can be in charge, with slaves and pleasure and no fear of losing their wealth and position through neglect and competition.
If you operate under the assumption that these people are literal demons you'd be closer to the mark as to their true nature than most "conservatives".
Heh. Whenever I think of brutalism, I'm reminded of when I was going to a shitty community college in my early twenties and I was super depressed and wanted to kill myself.
Biden also rescinded an order threatening financing for cities that the Trump administration felt curtailed support for local police amid the summer’s anti-racism protests.
Obvious, but I feel this warrants its own story/thread rather than being buried by the lede, which is also important albeit odd.
I don't agree with you. For one thing, I think there's a false economy in penny-pinching on a building that you might otherwise use for literal centuries. But I also think that it's at odds with the type of government you should want to have. Even if you think that it would have no effect on the type of people who are willing to work there or their psychology as they work there, a government that is of the people must have a dress code because it must be among the people. The government should not set out to make your city worse before they pass a single bill just by being an eyesore.
You can make a building not ugly for no extra cost, all it takes is not letting a batshit insane architect anywhere near the project.
And actually a lot of modernist buildings are incredibly impractically designed too, resulting in more expensive maintenance; there's a reason why for a lot of human history buildings have looked somewhat similar, and it's not just because of technology.
I park my car in the parking lot of the modern, recently built library of my town.
For some reason they surrounded that place with this very smooth, shiny type of tile. All around the building, even the stairs leading down to the parking area, the little outisde chilling place too.
The freaking moment it gets even just the tiniest bit of dew on it, that shit gets so slippery it's crazy. In winter it's like you are doing ice skating.
Another point - the mechanical engineering department at my old university is one of those modern buildings, with a terribly modern multiple-plane roof that looked fantastically trendy in the 1960s.
However, as any roofer could have told you ... all those internal angles on the internal area of the roof trap the water, which, in the real world, rots through the metal frames. Thing leaks like a sieve.
Just for confirmation: that was a modernist abomination, right? Because I've heard that buildings built today in Hungary are often in a classical and really beautiful style.
I mean.... yeeeah. For some reason they assumed that to sell the idea this is a modern library means you have to make it look like this.
Funny enough, the little sidewalk thingy you see was so damn bad they had to cover it in a thin layer of cement since this photo was taken.
On the right you see some railing. That's where you go down some stairs to a parking lot. They gave some texture to some of the steps, but not all of them and it's not sufficient anyway.
(Parking is free, though, so I shouldn't bitch.)
To be fair, this place NEEDED a new central library. Sadly, this is what we got, haha.
The National Theatre of the place is absolutely gorgeous, though.
It's a very old town right next to/halfway up a mountain side, so we have a ton of amazing places to see, both natural and man-made.
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Much like how backstage in a theater is often full of visible plywood, ropes, and mundanity while the front is all velvet and polished hardwood, a government building is a front for the face of the government to outside parties. An embassy, in example, is a government building, but if your embassy is comparable with a old western two-cage prison except with more molds and mildews, it's going to reflect poorly on your representation to those countries. Conspicuous spending: You declare how successful you are by how wasteful you are, and it directly translates to the respect you both deserve and get. You can say you're totally above it, but if you went into a restaurant that was all gold and hardwood, and one that had broken beams and plain clearly-patched spackle for walls, you'd feel more confident about eating in the one than the other, it's not just human condition, many animals do it too. Some birds make nests just to show off to mates, and have a "Real" nest elsewhere.
A lot of money should go into making the buildings look good. Keep them clean. Keep them maintained. Keep their aesthetic representative of the country they are representing. You are not from Shitstain, you're from America, and anyone should FEEL that on entering an American government building.
That stated, true brutalist archetecture I find often to be ugly, personally, but it IS very utilitarian, you'd like it given your statement here. The goal of brutalism is defensive lines, durability, and utility in that order, with "aesthetics" never even appearing on the list. It was mainly found in the USSR, as it represented THEIR country: no spare thought for appearances, just an iron and cement unyielding force.
All that stated, people have tried making purely functional buildings, pure glass so they can be supervised at all times, no walling, no gargoyles, no paintings, just glass, and the reflected light off it was causing burns to nearby buildings and pedestrians. Sometimes a bit of decoration is an important part of function.
I mean, am I alone in thinking that literally none of my money should be spent on making a government building look good?
We have to look at those government buildings, so the "NO STINKIN' GUBBERMINT" doesn't hold much sway. If it were the inside, sure. But the outside has to look nice, because it's so goddamn depressing to walk through a city that has the ugliest trash as its buildings.
I think he's just tearing up everything Trump did. There's no actual reason.
Trump should have signed an EO saying that breathing oxygen is awesome and should be encouraged.
70m liberals died today, that's Trump's fault.
You actually think anything that's happening has anything at all to do with either Biden or Kamala?
They aren't the ones in power.
Most definitely
So chaotic evil?
I've seen death camps with better aesthetics, but the HHS is probably responsible for more death and suffering, so it's fitting.
Get used to ugly. Condition kids to expect to be given things, whether knowledge or sustenance, just by holding out a cupped hand and muttering "gimme link" like a caged ape. Get used to wearing a muzzle, and being muzzled. Get used to soul-less entertainment.
Get ready to be a pet.
Whose pets? Good question.
Scions of Cain, their ultimate grievance is with God and His creation. The fundamental nature of which requires them to strive and suffer in exchange for a conciousness that they despise, yet are too cowardly to end. And the knowledge of that cowardice further drives their hatred of anyone who is hopeful instead of bitter like they are.
Yes. Mix into that the two totalitarian mindsets:
The idiotic idealism of those who delude themselves into believing that they can make a life without suffering if they get the systems just right (and in the process necessarily destroy everything else, including human nature, morals and aesthetics).
The better-informed clever Cains, who use the former into making them a Tower of Babel where they can be in charge, with slaves and pleasure and no fear of losing their wealth and position through neglect and competition.
To quote from Empty by Emperor:
How furiously and bombastic
He proclaimed his destruction of a mortal coil
In the end it seemed
This was his only possession
If you operate under the assumption that these people are literal demons you'd be closer to the mark as to their true nature than most "conservatives".
Ideological possession is real.
The ideology possessing them is that of the "Synagogue of Satan," as Jesus called it in Rev 2:9.
Which makes it Demonic possession, because the Ideology possessing them is Satanic-- i.e. Demonic.
It's figuratively demonic, rather than literally Demonic-- but hey, demons are demons. The only thing they fear is you.
(Note that it's their beliefs make them demonic-- you don't even have to believe in an Abrahamic faith to have to deal with demons born of them.)
SJWs are some of the ugliest people in the world. If they can make the rest of the world ugly and smelly as well, they will stand out less.
Heh. Whenever I think of brutalism, I'm reminded of when I was going to a shitty community college in my early twenties and I was super depressed and wanted to kill myself.
Obvious, but I feel this warrants its own story/thread rather than being buried by the lede, which is also important albeit odd.
Hey... leave brutalist architecture alone. It's beautiful in its own way.
I mean, am I alone in thinking that literally none of my money should be spent on making a government building look good?
Make sure it is functional. Anything other than that is wasted money, and it's MY money being wasted.
I don't agree with you. For one thing, I think there's a false economy in penny-pinching on a building that you might otherwise use for literal centuries. But I also think that it's at odds with the type of government you should want to have. Even if you think that it would have no effect on the type of people who are willing to work there or their psychology as they work there, a government that is of the people must have a dress code because it must be among the people. The government should not set out to make your city worse before they pass a single bill just by being an eyesore.
You can make a building not ugly for no extra cost, all it takes is not letting a batshit insane architect anywhere near the project.
And actually a lot of modernist buildings are incredibly impractically designed too, resulting in more expensive maintenance; there's a reason why for a lot of human history buildings have looked somewhat similar, and it's not just because of technology.
I park my car in the parking lot of the modern, recently built library of my town.
For some reason they surrounded that place with this very smooth, shiny type of tile. All around the building, even the stairs leading down to the parking area, the little outisde chilling place too.
The freaking moment it gets even just the tiniest bit of dew on it, that shit gets so slippery it's crazy. In winter it's like you are doing ice skating.
Another point - the mechanical engineering department at my old university is one of those modern buildings, with a terribly modern multiple-plane roof that looked fantastically trendy in the 1960s.
However, as any roofer could have told you ... all those internal angles on the internal area of the roof trap the water, which, in the real world, rots through the metal frames. Thing leaks like a sieve.
Fucking physics, messing with muh creative design. Reality can't be trusted to make my vision viable.
Just for confirmation: that was a modernist abomination, right? Because I've heard that buildings built today in Hungary are often in a classical and really beautiful style.
I mean.... yeeeah. For some reason they assumed that to sell the idea this is a modern library means you have to make it look like this.
Funny enough, the little sidewalk thingy you see was so damn bad they had to cover it in a thin layer of cement since this photo was taken.
On the right you see some railing. That's where you go down some stairs to a parking lot. They gave some texture to some of the steps, but not all of them and it's not sufficient anyway.
(Parking is free, though, so I shouldn't bitch.)
What an abomination. I think Vienna has its central library housed in a beautiful old palace.
To be fair, this place NEEDED a new central library. Sadly, this is what we got, haha.
The National Theatre of the place is absolutely gorgeous, though.
It's a very old town right next to/halfway up a mountain side, so we have a ton of amazing places to see, both natural and man-made.
This post was brought to you by the Ministry of Tourism of Hungary.
It's amazing.
Keep that a secret, because otherwise a lot of people will pour in from Western Europe and absolutely wreck the place.
As if your beautiful country needs anything like that. Everyone I know who has visited was in awe.
you should bitch, considering your tax money was spent on this.
I disagree.
Much like how backstage in a theater is often full of visible plywood, ropes, and mundanity while the front is all velvet and polished hardwood, a government building is a front for the face of the government to outside parties. An embassy, in example, is a government building, but if your embassy is comparable with a old western two-cage prison except with more molds and mildews, it's going to reflect poorly on your representation to those countries. Conspicuous spending: You declare how successful you are by how wasteful you are, and it directly translates to the respect you both deserve and get. You can say you're totally above it, but if you went into a restaurant that was all gold and hardwood, and one that had broken beams and plain clearly-patched spackle for walls, you'd feel more confident about eating in the one than the other, it's not just human condition, many animals do it too. Some birds make nests just to show off to mates, and have a "Real" nest elsewhere.
A lot of money should go into making the buildings look good. Keep them clean. Keep them maintained. Keep their aesthetic representative of the country they are representing. You are not from Shitstain, you're from America, and anyone should FEEL that on entering an American government building.
That stated, true brutalist archetecture I find often to be ugly, personally, but it IS very utilitarian, you'd like it given your statement here. The goal of brutalism is defensive lines, durability, and utility in that order, with "aesthetics" never even appearing on the list. It was mainly found in the USSR, as it represented THEIR country: no spare thought for appearances, just an iron and cement unyielding force.
All that stated, people have tried making purely functional buildings, pure glass so they can be supervised at all times, no walling, no gargoyles, no paintings, just glass, and the reflected light off it was causing burns to nearby buildings and pedestrians. Sometimes a bit of decoration is an important part of function.
We have to look at those government buildings, so the "NO STINKIN' GUBBERMINT" doesn't hold much sway. If it were the inside, sure. But the outside has to look nice, because it's so goddamn depressing to walk through a city that has the ugliest trash as its buildings.