No. Because Trump's lawyers have been trying to get substantive audits. Not one of which has occurred. Which is how you substantiate your evidence. The courts are denying the motions on hollow technicalities like standing and jurisdiction, without even looking at the evidence.
I knew Trump's goose had been shoved into a deep frier and that said deep frier exploded once people moved the goalposts to 'the military will solve this'. Obama did a thorough job purging the officer corps during his presidency and the best case scenario with the grunts would have been fragmentation, meaning civil war rather than any smooth coup against the establishment.
That said, the populist right was around before Trump and despite the inevitable attempts at suppression, I fully expect it to remain long after he's gone, especially as Biden's promised policies amount to trying to put out their fire - stoked as it's been these past four months, much less the past four years - with napalm.
Attempting to impose large scale gun control alone would be a disastrous mistake for anyone who doesn't want to start mass uprisings and probably the 2ACW to make.
To say nothing of the exacerbated economic collapse that a nationwide lockdown will bring about...
Or the extra aggravation from attempting maximally-accelerated pushes on every culture war front the progs can think of. Or the blatant threats and moves to list, disenfranchise, 're-educate' and ultimately destroy every single MAGA supporter in existence.
Like, wow. Talk about realizing every single paranoid fantasy right-wing 2ACW fiction authors have been writing about for decades.
Tiberius Gracchus has been thrown in the Tiber, and now America's latter-day Optimates are no doubt gearing up to do the same with his supporters. But if yesterday was any indicator, I think this is just the beginning of the great American crisis' boiling-over stage (the pot having first been set to boil back in the 1960s), and not even close to its end.
That's the million dollar question. I'll be blunt, because this is way past time to pretend to not be a doomer: I don't think there is a Caesar right now. Trump was the best positioned to try and, obviously, that has not panned out. I cannot think of any other genuinely charismatic American politician or general who commanded a similar degree of loyalty among the general population at present.
But we have to remember that before Caesar, there was Marius Senior. Marius Junior. Cinna, Catiline, Quintus Sertorius, the Gracchi brothers and others. All failed to overthrow the elite, most paid for it with their lives and that of their loyal legionaries and supporters. But in the end, despite being much more blasé about the casual mass murder of their enemies than modern society, for all their efforts the Roman Optimates never could completely exterminate the Populares. And the bones of those they did kill formed the foundation for Caesar's rise.
Tl;dr this is certainly going to get much worse before it gets better and anyone who's expecting a last minute savior to gallantly ride in atop a white stallion on January 19 is deluding themselves. But the foundation for an American Caesar has been laid (not just with Trumpist populism, but also with mass disillusionment with every legal institution of order in America - would many have believed you if you said the American right would turn against cops, for example, in 2015 or even this past summer?) and if he does not manifest to use it in our lifetimes, he will before the end of this century.
People there are understandably doomed the fuck out, but what else can they do?
The Populist Right will continue to exist without Trump, but they're also going to suffer from extreme retaliation from the Deep State and their puppets and enforcers.
In another post, I stated that the demoralized and leaderless populist crowd would be dragged into camps without resistance, but now I expect as the economic situation becomes more dire, there will be pockets of violence. Just nothing change inducing until the Populist Caesar makes themselves known.
That started on about November 6th or so after things started to sink in. I haven't participated over there much or even looked there much. The discussion, of lack thereof, had gotten so rough. It really was looking like an echo chamber to me.
Now, they don't want to give up because they know what's next, and it seems that Trump decided it was time to cut bait. The idea that he was going to stay in office no matter what should have stayed with the nutcases of the left that thought he was a dictator. He's just a fierce competitor, and with it being so close and looking like fraud, he was going to fight. It's no different than the coach that makes a referee spend ten minutes reviewing a game to get 2 seconds back on the clock. Those two seconds might matter and you don't quit until time runs out. Time has run out.
I do hope the site sticks around in some form or fashion and that some of the sanity eventually returns. During the early days of the virus nuttiness when everything blew up and I was cut off, that site was the only place I could go at the time where I didn't feel like I was totally isolated merely for questioning things. Everywhere else I was at the time it didn't matter the conclusion you may come to, do not in any way think for yourself.
Unfortunately, it's time to move on. Things are going to suck for a while. I'm of the opinion a different election outcome would have only delayed that being the case. I'd have happily taken the delay, but it's not in the cards it seems.
It's not a rallying point issue, it's that he threw his supporters under the bus for taking "if we let this fraud stand we don't have a country anymore" to its logical conclusion.
I don't think anyone was comfortable with the prospect of going to civil war, not the RINOs, the neocons, the supreme court, pence or Trump or even the 1 million ppl who went to washington because you can't win a civil war with 1 million mostly unarmed ppl.
Lots of ppl say oh they would have risen up, except...where were they on the 6th? Not there
I agree that you don't have a country anymore if there's so much fraud that's NOT explained. But it requires ppl to fight for it and in the end, there wasn't anyone willing to sacrifice their life. The RINOs , supreme court, pence don't care. Why stick their neck out. Trump's not callous enough to risk civil war. Keep in mind the dude wants to bring back american troops and hasn't started any new wars. He's changed procedure on kneeling on necks just cause floyd died. He's very conscious about lifes being lost.
You need someone who would be willing to die and willing to have others die at their instruction as well and basically, that's not Trump
I think a lot of people went yesterday expecting something to go down. Personally I expected an epic street brawl and never in my wildest dreams thought there'd be a full-on occupation of the Capitol building. There was a post on TDW of a guy saying good-bye to his kids, thinking he's going into literal battle and not expecting to come back.
However in battle one expects to have the backing of one's generals. Most people will not fight a battle when their generals start turning the artillery on their own troops, which is now happening with the FBI investigating the occupation of the Capitol building. All those people who were there because Trump wanted them there, who thought they were helping Trump, will go to prison.
The only person who didn't want to fight a battle on the 6th was Trump. It's too bad, because the mob was the one way he could have gotten what he wanted; and it's the one option he refused to take.
With only 1 million mostly unarmed ppl? There was no chance of that doing anything. Realistically speaking, it's a nice show but those aren't numbers you can use to fight a civil war with. They could take the capitol and....then what? Any armed force could take them out and it'll come to that if it comes to civil war. Those 1 million would have been sitting ducks
I think it's possible they might try to kill him. That would be an absolutely retarded thing for the establishment to do... but that hasn't dissuaded them yet.
Those idiots will know if they kill him, that crowd of hundreds of thousands that came on the 6th is gonna turn into a crowd of hundreds and thousands of supporters armed to the teeth.
What I'm talking about is we will end up seeing Oklahoma bombings outside federal, media and social media buildings and sandy hook style shootings inside social media buildings
I don't know if I can say this, delete it if I can't. But honestly? I fucking hope so. I want every single person working at a social media company, and every single person working for the government, to fear for their lives, and to think about their job is worth losing their life over. I want social media, journalism and government to be seen as extremely high risk positions. I want them to never feel safe again for stealing the west from its people. Anyone complicit in this utterly corrupt system needs to suffer.
You dance with the one who brought you. Who else was there? Ron and Rand couldn't get past the primary, and Rand's shown himself to be a proceduralist as well.
It's been interesting to see who cucked and who didn't. I honestly expected people like Crowder and Razor to cuck, but they didn't. Styx initially cucked until he got ratioed hard by calling people "salty" for taking issue with the fraud, and his whole "Beijing Biden" thing is kinda cringy.
Then there's the people who you get the sense would be more upset about being wrong about Trump giving up than by Trump actually giving up. I've lost patience with those people. You'll never win with them, and they're the sort who in the olden days would have been shot for sowing discontent among the ranks.
Lots of moderates already cucked. Tim Fence Sitter Pool has, he's already walking back his claims about Trump winning and doing the "I denounce violence" bullshit while trying to sound like he's sympathetic to why they resorted to what they did.
I see tons of people already saying it was Trump that instigated the violence and that we need to start "healing".
Lots of GOPers who are concerned about their careers already denounced him to crawl back into their ivory towers.
The populist rebellion failed, and as Tim Fence Sitter Pool has said, now they're going to lock up the tower and throw away the key.
At the national level yes. In retrospect it had a low probability of success, prior to Trump no one was talking about flipping the entire nation to a nationalist populist platform as a viable option, but it was still worth hitching our wagon to him to give it a go. And I don't regret doing so. And I appreciate him finally, at long last, throwing in the towel so now we know he isn't going to be the guy.
Now we go back to pre-Trump era politics: we are on our own, and there is no one to save us. All politics is local now: your next-door neighbors matter, your local sheriff matters. Except that now we know there are a lot more of us than we originally thought, and we now know that effectively no-one in politics at the state-level and above is on our side.
I liked the man, but I think he would have been far less effective than Trump, because he was more of an ideologue. Trump's pragmatism is the only thing that allowed him to accomplish anything at all.
I'm not sure why that's something to revel in, since it's not like there's anyone we know of waiting in the wings to continue leading the charge. You think ConInc is bad, wait until you see "Populist, Inc."
Better than the alternative of continuing to support someone who throws you under the bus. If he thinks he can run and win again in 2024 he's sorely mistaken, even if he's not in prison or dead.
Trump was always a tool. He had his uses, but at his core he was always a 1990's new york democrat boomer that made some really dumb decisions. I don't think he truly knew what he was getting himself into, but once he started down that path of challenging the establishment there was no turning back.
The best thing to happen now is for Trump to go on vacation for the next 6 to 12 months and just disappear. The left is in a frenzy itching for a target, but if the targets go away there is a good chance they could turn on each other. It's going to be difficult for the establishment to get their rabid base that they activated to stand down. Maybe if we're lucky they will destroy the republican party, and hopefully something better will rise from the ashes of that bootlicking organization. If Trump's legacy is the destruction of the bush/romney party, than all I can say is thank you new york boomer. Now go away, we need a real strongman leader now.
Trump has enough money that he can (and should) start serious funding for alternative platforms.
He's too old to be president again, but he can do a lot of good by playing kingmaker for nationalism. The problem is he's consistently made bad staffing choices over his presidency -- So I really don't expect him to do a good job in a post-presidency role either.
This would be the correct way to go about it. He still has his fuck you money, and now that the right-populist/nationalist movement is out of the bottle good luck trying to shove that back in.
One can hope. Even if his own money is tied up in non-liquid assets, he raised literally hundreds of millions of dollars since November. The Nationalist movement doesn't have a lot of coastal billionaires, but it's got working class, middle-class, and upper-middle-class wealth in droves. It's fully possible to see a Trump-funded payment processor, social media site(s), and buy out of RSBN, OANN or Newsmax.
With that done Trump could move to take over the R party by funding & organizing local races. As much as a lot of us probably feel like R is a badly tainted brand, it's the sports team with the most legacy team spirit, so probably better to try to take it over than pursue a Bull Moose strategy.
Yep, he has the fuck you money he needs and he has a strong and VERY loyal base (even despite this meltdown).
I do feel sorry for these poor bastards that whipped themselves into a frenzy deifying Trump. I know GEOTUS was a bit tongue in cheek of them but their worship of him as a person rather than the idea was their downfall. Ignoring his shortcomings and seeing how those shortcomings were going to bite them all in the ass... many people should've seen this coming.
I do like the fact out of all this RSBN, OANN, and Newsmax have joined the Populist Right, along with parts of the New York Post. That's the only "white pill"/silver lining I can see out of all this. They kicked the guy they hate out, but the guy they hate has a shitload of money that can keep this thing going.
You're expecting Donald Trump of all people to disappear. He couldn't stop tweeting for 5 minutes. I don't hate him or am shitting on him to shit on him, but I just seriously doubt his ability to step out of the "limelight."
Trump lost because because of the horrible state of America's corporatized extractive health care 'system' which constitutes 20 percent of the entire GDP.
There was no repeal and replace. There were no anti monopoly investigations, no improvements, no meaningful changes. After the Paul Ryan/John McCain fiascos Trump moved on to other interests and the whole healthcare mess was ignored.
Until it lit a fuse years later. And then his re-election campaign was completely undermined by a public health crisis which spread through every level of civil life and the economy and bureaucracy and led to last minute mail in voting changes.
If you think the virus wasn't insanely exaggerated in order to facilitate the mail-in fraud, I don't know what to tell you.
Trump lost because leftists cheated, and they succeded in cheating because he and his supporters did nothing to break the leftist monopoly on big tech, media, and social media. We just saw Mark fucking Zuckerberg silence the president of the United States.
Yep, and he had several right wingers who were representatives and Senators who were loyal MAGA types yelling in his ear to do something about the party of Davos and media. Trump focused on the wrong things. Some GOPers tried but all they did was yell at CEOs that don't give a fuck about that.
I suspect it's because he's too much of a boomer to understand how bad of an impact ALL of social media has made on the political conversation.
Honestly, I'd posted somewhere that I'd gladly accept a Biden admin if he'd let the 2020 election be investigated.
However:
https://archive.vn/RECD8 RazörFist @RAZ0RFIST 6 Jan 2021
Well, there's that.
Why would he ever do that legitimately? “Biden has investigated Biden for election meddling and found no evidence”
I knew Trump's goose had been shoved into a deep frier and that said deep frier exploded once people moved the goalposts to 'the military will solve this'. Obama did a thorough job purging the officer corps during his presidency and the best case scenario with the grunts would have been fragmentation, meaning civil war rather than any smooth coup against the establishment.
That said, the populist right was around before Trump and despite the inevitable attempts at suppression, I fully expect it to remain long after he's gone, especially as Biden's promised policies amount to trying to put out their fire - stoked as it's been these past four months, much less the past four years - with napalm.
Attempting to impose large scale gun control alone would be a disastrous mistake for anyone who doesn't want to start mass uprisings and probably the 2ACW to make.
To say nothing of the exacerbated economic collapse that a nationwide lockdown will bring about...
Or the extra aggravation from attempting maximally-accelerated pushes on every culture war front the progs can think of. Or the blatant threats and moves to list, disenfranchise, 're-educate' and ultimately destroy every single MAGA supporter in existence.
Like, wow. Talk about realizing every single paranoid fantasy right-wing 2ACW fiction authors have been writing about for decades.
Tiberius Gracchus has been thrown in the Tiber, and now America's latter-day Optimates are no doubt gearing up to do the same with his supporters. But if yesterday was any indicator, I think this is just the beginning of the great American crisis' boiling-over stage (the pot having first been set to boil back in the 1960s), and not even close to its end.
Yeah, the populists are here, but the real question is, where is Caesar?
That's the million dollar question. I'll be blunt, because this is way past time to pretend to not be a doomer: I don't think there is a Caesar right now. Trump was the best positioned to try and, obviously, that has not panned out. I cannot think of any other genuinely charismatic American politician or general who commanded a similar degree of loyalty among the general population at present.
But we have to remember that before Caesar, there was Marius Senior. Marius Junior. Cinna, Catiline, Quintus Sertorius, the Gracchi brothers and others. All failed to overthrow the elite, most paid for it with their lives and that of their loyal legionaries and supporters. But in the end, despite being much more blasé about the casual mass murder of their enemies than modern society, for all their efforts the Roman Optimates never could completely exterminate the Populares. And the bones of those they did kill formed the foundation for Caesar's rise.
Tl;dr this is certainly going to get much worse before it gets better and anyone who's expecting a last minute savior to gallantly ride in atop a white stallion on January 19 is deluding themselves. But the foundation for an American Caesar has been laid (not just with Trumpist populism, but also with mass disillusionment with every legal institution of order in America - would many have believed you if you said the American right would turn against cops, for example, in 2015 or even this past summer?) and if he does not manifest to use it in our lifetimes, he will before the end of this century.
You can bet your ass if they try to sic semper tyranis Trump there will be an American IRA that makes the provos look like schoolgirls
Yeah... I'm pretty much done with TDW.
People there are understandably doomed the fuck out, but what else can they do?
The Populist Right will continue to exist without Trump, but they're also going to suffer from extreme retaliation from the Deep State and their puppets and enforcers.
In another post, I stated that the demoralized and leaderless populist crowd would be dragged into camps without resistance, but now I expect as the economic situation becomes more dire, there will be pockets of violence. Just nothing change inducing until the Populist Caesar makes themselves known.
That started on about November 6th or so after things started to sink in. I haven't participated over there much or even looked there much. The discussion, of lack thereof, had gotten so rough. It really was looking like an echo chamber to me.
Now, they don't want to give up because they know what's next, and it seems that Trump decided it was time to cut bait. The idea that he was going to stay in office no matter what should have stayed with the nutcases of the left that thought he was a dictator. He's just a fierce competitor, and with it being so close and looking like fraud, he was going to fight. It's no different than the coach that makes a referee spend ten minutes reviewing a game to get 2 seconds back on the clock. Those two seconds might matter and you don't quit until time runs out. Time has run out.
I do hope the site sticks around in some form or fashion and that some of the sanity eventually returns. During the early days of the virus nuttiness when everything blew up and I was cut off, that site was the only place I could go at the time where I didn't feel like I was totally isolated merely for questioning things. Everywhere else I was at the time it didn't matter the conclusion you may come to, do not in any way think for yourself.
Unfortunately, it's time to move on. Things are going to suck for a while. I'm of the opinion a different election outcome would have only delayed that being the case. I'd have happily taken the delay, but it's not in the cards it seems.
Not surprising. The rallying point has been lost, and it's hard to find the courage to do what must be done without it.
It's not a rallying point issue, it's that he threw his supporters under the bus for taking "if we let this fraud stand we don't have a country anymore" to its logical conclusion.
I don't think anyone was comfortable with the prospect of going to civil war, not the RINOs, the neocons, the supreme court, pence or Trump or even the 1 million ppl who went to washington because you can't win a civil war with 1 million mostly unarmed ppl.
Lots of ppl say oh they would have risen up, except...where were they on the 6th? Not there
I agree that you don't have a country anymore if there's so much fraud that's NOT explained. But it requires ppl to fight for it and in the end, there wasn't anyone willing to sacrifice their life. The RINOs , supreme court, pence don't care. Why stick their neck out. Trump's not callous enough to risk civil war. Keep in mind the dude wants to bring back american troops and hasn't started any new wars. He's changed procedure on kneeling on necks just cause floyd died. He's very conscious about lifes being lost.
You need someone who would be willing to die and willing to have others die at their instruction as well and basically, that's not Trump
I think a lot of people went yesterday expecting something to go down. Personally I expected an epic street brawl and never in my wildest dreams thought there'd be a full-on occupation of the Capitol building. There was a post on TDW of a guy saying good-bye to his kids, thinking he's going into literal battle and not expecting to come back.
However in battle one expects to have the backing of one's generals. Most people will not fight a battle when their generals start turning the artillery on their own troops, which is now happening with the FBI investigating the occupation of the Capitol building. All those people who were there because Trump wanted them there, who thought they were helping Trump, will go to prison.
The only person who didn't want to fight a battle on the 6th was Trump. It's too bad, because the mob was the one way he could have gotten what he wanted; and it's the one option he refused to take.
With only 1 million mostly unarmed ppl? There was no chance of that doing anything. Realistically speaking, it's a nice show but those aren't numbers you can use to fight a civil war with. They could take the capitol and....then what? Any armed force could take them out and it'll come to that if it comes to civil war. Those 1 million would have been sitting ducks
His best revenge might be to declassify and leak some shit just before he leaves. :P
He's done. He won't be taking any revenge.
His best hope right now is that they don't hunt him down next week after they somehow remove him from office.
I think it's possible they might try to kill him. That would be an absolutely retarded thing for the establishment to do... but that hasn't dissuaded them yet.
Why would it be retarded for him to have COVID complications in a month? Reality is what the news reports it is, not what observably happens.
Because that's not what they would do. They would make sure to send a message.
Probably, but I'm not putting it past them.
Those idiots will know if they kill him, that crowd of hundreds of thousands that came on the 6th is gonna turn into a crowd of hundreds and thousands of supporters armed to the teeth.
If he's foolish enough to still believe the people who have stabbed him in the back so many times, that's on him.
Well, i did call 2021 the year of boring black pills.
The mass killings have been going on for decades, it's called the black on white crime rate.
White people just kill themselves with drugs.
I don't know if I can say this, delete it if I can't. But honestly? I fucking hope so. I want every single person working at a social media company, and every single person working for the government, to fear for their lives, and to think about their job is worth losing their life over. I want social media, journalism and government to be seen as extremely high risk positions. I want them to never feel safe again for stealing the west from its people. Anyone complicit in this utterly corrupt system needs to suffer.
I was sad for a moment until I remembered Trump was just some guy from NYC and a Democrat before he ran for president.
Meh.
You dance with the one who brought you. Who else was there? Ron and Rand couldn't get past the primary, and Rand's shown himself to be a proceduralist as well.
Who's the next MAGA though. Everybody looks cucked as hell.
I nominate Razorfist.
It's been interesting to see who cucked and who didn't. I honestly expected people like Crowder and Razor to cuck, but they didn't. Styx initially cucked until he got ratioed hard by calling people "salty" for taking issue with the fraud, and his whole "Beijing Biden" thing is kinda cringy.
Then there's the people who you get the sense would be more upset about being wrong about Trump giving up than by Trump actually giving up. I've lost patience with those people. You'll never win with them, and they're the sort who in the olden days would have been shot for sowing discontent among the ranks.
Lots of moderates already cucked. Tim Fence Sitter Pool has, he's already walking back his claims about Trump winning and doing the "I denounce violence" bullshit while trying to sound like he's sympathetic to why they resorted to what they did.
I see tons of people already saying it was Trump that instigated the violence and that we need to start "healing".
Lots of GOPers who are concerned about their careers already denounced him to crawl back into their ivory towers.
The populist rebellion failed, and as Tim Fence Sitter Pool has said, now they're going to lock up the tower and throw away the key.
At the national level yes. In retrospect it had a low probability of success, prior to Trump no one was talking about flipping the entire nation to a nationalist populist platform as a viable option, but it was still worth hitching our wagon to him to give it a go. And I don't regret doing so. And I appreciate him finally, at long last, throwing in the towel so now we know he isn't going to be the guy.
Now we go back to pre-Trump era politics: we are on our own, and there is no one to save us. All politics is local now: your next-door neighbors matter, your local sheriff matters. Except that now we know there are a lot more of us than we originally thought, and we now know that effectively no-one in politics at the state-level and above is on our side.
Ron was the only modern candidate that I actually liked, but the third-party is a death knell for victory hopes. Shame.
I liked the man, but I think he would have been far less effective than Trump, because he was more of an ideologue. Trump's pragmatism is the only thing that allowed him to accomplish anything at all.
I'm not sure why that's something to revel in, since it's not like there's anyone we know of waiting in the wings to continue leading the charge. You think ConInc is bad, wait until you see "Populist, Inc."
Better than the alternative of continuing to support someone who throws you under the bus. If he thinks he can run and win again in 2024 he's sorely mistaken, even if he's not in prison or dead.
Trump was always a tool. He had his uses, but at his core he was always a 1990's new york democrat boomer that made some really dumb decisions. I don't think he truly knew what he was getting himself into, but once he started down that path of challenging the establishment there was no turning back.
The best thing to happen now is for Trump to go on vacation for the next 6 to 12 months and just disappear. The left is in a frenzy itching for a target, but if the targets go away there is a good chance they could turn on each other. It's going to be difficult for the establishment to get their rabid base that they activated to stand down. Maybe if we're lucky they will destroy the republican party, and hopefully something better will rise from the ashes of that bootlicking organization. If Trump's legacy is the destruction of the bush/romney party, than all I can say is thank you new york boomer. Now go away, we need a real strongman leader now.
Trump has enough money that he can (and should) start serious funding for alternative platforms.
He's too old to be president again, but he can do a lot of good by playing kingmaker for nationalism. The problem is he's consistently made bad staffing choices over his presidency -- So I really don't expect him to do a good job in a post-presidency role either.
This would be the correct way to go about it. He still has his fuck you money, and now that the right-populist/nationalist movement is out of the bottle good luck trying to shove that back in.
One can hope. Even if his own money is tied up in non-liquid assets, he raised literally hundreds of millions of dollars since November. The Nationalist movement doesn't have a lot of coastal billionaires, but it's got working class, middle-class, and upper-middle-class wealth in droves. It's fully possible to see a Trump-funded payment processor, social media site(s), and buy out of RSBN, OANN or Newsmax. With that done Trump could move to take over the R party by funding & organizing local races. As much as a lot of us probably feel like R is a badly tainted brand, it's the sports team with the most legacy team spirit, so probably better to try to take it over than pursue a Bull Moose strategy.
Yep, he has the fuck you money he needs and he has a strong and VERY loyal base (even despite this meltdown).
I do feel sorry for these poor bastards that whipped themselves into a frenzy deifying Trump. I know GEOTUS was a bit tongue in cheek of them but their worship of him as a person rather than the idea was their downfall. Ignoring his shortcomings and seeing how those shortcomings were going to bite them all in the ass... many people should've seen this coming.
I do like the fact out of all this RSBN, OANN, and Newsmax have joined the Populist Right, along with parts of the New York Post. That's the only "white pill"/silver lining I can see out of all this. They kicked the guy they hate out, but the guy they hate has a shitload of money that can keep this thing going.
You're expecting Donald Trump of all people to disappear. He couldn't stop tweeting for 5 minutes. I don't hate him or am shitting on him to shit on him, but I just seriously doubt his ability to step out of the "limelight."
Damn they nuked that entire thread.
Can we have "FUCK YOU" on this site? 'Cause here's one.
My 2¢
Trump lost because because of the horrible state of America's corporatized extractive health care 'system' which constitutes 20 percent of the entire GDP.
There was no repeal and replace. There were no anti monopoly investigations, no improvements, no meaningful changes. After the Paul Ryan/John McCain fiascos Trump moved on to other interests and the whole healthcare mess was ignored.
Until it lit a fuse years later. And then his re-election campaign was completely undermined by a public health crisis which spread through every level of civil life and the economy and bureaucracy and led to last minute mail in voting changes.
Voila, here we are.
If you think the virus wasn't insanely exaggerated in order to facilitate the mail-in fraud, I don't know what to tell you.
Trump lost because leftists cheated, and they succeded in cheating because he and his supporters did nothing to break the leftist monopoly on big tech, media, and social media. We just saw Mark fucking Zuckerberg silence the president of the United States.
Yep, and he had several right wingers who were representatives and Senators who were loyal MAGA types yelling in his ear to do something about the party of Davos and media. Trump focused on the wrong things. Some GOPers tried but all they did was yell at CEOs that don't give a fuck about that.
I suspect it's because he's too much of a boomer to understand how bad of an impact ALL of social media has made on the political conversation.