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BBC: ‘Seeing Jesus as a darker skinned Palestinian is both historically accurate and theologically important’ (www.jihadwatch.org)
posted 5 years ago by Eldourado 5 years ago by Eldourado +34 / -0
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– Galean 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

I get it that maybe he was slightly brown, but he was a jew and jews are not particularly dark, but from this they came to the conclusion that he is black?

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– willy-willis 35 points 5 years ago +35 / -0

Jesus may not even have been necessarily brown-skinned despite being a Galilean Jew, anyway. He lived before Rome deported the Jews from Judea and long before the Arabs swept into the Levant, so there's a decent chance that he (and indeed other Jews at the time) would have physically had more in common with the other Aramaic-speaking Middle Easterners of the time.

Now since high school I've been friends with an Assyrian girl from northern Iraq, and she doesn't exactly look like the stereotypical Arab, heck she's paler than most white people I know. Obviously she isn't representative of every single Syriac out there, nor does this mean Jesus too must be pale as driven snow, but I'd buy that he was long before I'd buy that he looked like a Nubian as the first picture in the linked article suggests.

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– Galean 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

One of my neighbors is Egyptian and he is paler then I am, which is funny cause I am white and he is not, using leftist logic. I expect that he is not representative of Egyptians either, he is even some form of Christian.

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– willy-willis 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

A Coptic Christian, if I had to guess? They're what's left of the natives of Egypt, going back to Biblical times and beyond to Narmer, and still standing despite mounting persecution from Egypt's Arab Muslim majority (most recently Obama's favorites in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood). Suffice to say, they don't look anything like the kangz think they do. (See, for example, the outrage that crowd had when Rami Malek was cast as an Egyptian character some years back)

One of my previous bosses was Coptic, and he was pretty proud of his heritage - referred to his people as 'the true sons and daughters of the Pharaohs' & all that. He also had nuclear-hot takes about Islamic Arabs, to put it mildly.

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– AntonioOfVenice 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

One of my previous bosses was Coptic, and he was pretty proud of his heritage - referred to his people as 'the true sons and daughters of the Pharaohs' & all that. He also had nuclear-hot takes about Islamic Arabs, to put it mildly.

As a gross generalization, Middle Eastern Catholics (Maronites, etc.) tend to be somewhat less based than members of Orthodox Churches (like the Copts). Every single time I see hair-raising regressivism from a Middle Eastern Christian, who really should know better, it's always a Catholic.

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– willy-willis 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Maybe it's a generational thing? Of the Lebanese Maronites I've ever talked to, the older ones tend to still be fans of the Phalange and Lebanese Forces, or at least to believe that everything would be better if the Christian faction had won the Lebanese Civil War (and that they would have if not for those damn meddling Syrians and Iranians).

It's the younger ones who grew up here that are much more likely to have become enmeshed in intersectionality and the culture of the modern West, with all that that entails, at least as far as I can tell.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

It's definitely not to generalize, as I'm sure most of them are cool. But of all the pseudo-intellectuals I know who spout this nonsense, e.g. Edward Said, Joseph Massad and a host of others, they're invariably members of the same group, even though they are older (though not Lebanese of course).

I am not sure what it is.

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– Knife-TotingRat 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

My cousin married into a Coptic family (very nice, and they knew each other since we were all in diapers, one of those childhood romances that worked), and while they're quite dark-skinned, they're definitely not "black".

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Some form of Christian? 5-10% of the Egyptian population is Christian, and the Coptic Orthodox Church is one of the oldest Christian churches in the world.

But if he is lighter than you are, that is quite uncommon for Egyptians, as they tend to be somewhat dark by Middle Eastern standards, compared to say Syrians or Lebanese.

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– Galean 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I assume he is mixed race, his mom I think is actually Caucasian. I did not know there were so many Christians in Egypt.

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– Ahaus667 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

There used to be a lot of coptic Christians, they somehow keep disappearing from muslim majority countries

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– LesboPregnancyScare 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

northern Lebanese mountain men are light skinned blondes with blue eyes but with Arab features: almond shaped eyes, big noses, bushy eyebrows, thick hair, etc.

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– AntonioOfVenice 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Middle Eastern Jews are darker than the Ashkenazi ones that you are familiar with. You can look at the great Gad Sa'ad as to what his skin tone was likely to be.

They turn him black the same reason Anne Boleyn, William Shakespeare and Kang George of England are made black.

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– YouAreAPirate 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

We wuz god n shiet

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– Gizortnik 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

The thumbnail is a bit misleading, that's not what the the person being quoted is saying Jesus looks like, that's just a thumbnail, of a thumbnail in the article, of a different podcast that Jihad Watch did called "Black Jesus".

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– AzureAceStarburstXXX 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

BBC is a terrorist organization.

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– AntonioOfVenice 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Jesus may have be any number of things, but 'Palestinian' he was not, and he certainly was not black. Even as a name 'Palestine', was only imposed 160 years after the birth of Jesus, when Hadrian put down the second Jewish revolt against Rome.

It's like calling St. Nicholas a Turk, which these absolutely cretinous imbeciles also do, when he was actually Greek.

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– Skywise 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

They know Jesus was a Jew... right?

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– Ahaus667 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

You mean black hebrew Israelite bigot

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– realerfunction 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

they're doing it on purpose

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– reidj 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I can guarantee the only ones who find Jesus' skin color theologically important are those who put social justice activism above accurate Biblical interpretation.

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– ZodShael 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Proof that the true Israelites are black and the "white" ones are impostors.

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– Skywise 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Don’t get ahead of the narrative..

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– Gideon_Syme 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

What is most sublimely idiotic about this is that, for millennia, different cultures have depicted Jesus in such a way as to be visually relatable to them. This you will have Him depicted as a Chinese sage, as an Ethiopian man, as an Egyptian, as a Russian etc. Christian art of Jesus has already depicted countless ethnicities. The fools who wrote this article couldn’t even begin to understand why what they propose is idiotic.

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– Cyberguy64 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I actually had a discussion with my dad about this relating to all the racebending going on these days. There's nothing wrong with portraying Jesus differently to make him more relatable to other cultures, since he came to save everyone.

That's not what's going on here.

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– cccpneveragain 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

So they compare him to Palestinian Yasser Arafat, which I could totally make sense of being the same complexion. That would also be consistent with lots of Israelis. It's also just barely not white.

Yet the image they then present makes it look like he's from central Africa.

I can't understand any theological importance. The importance of Jesus with respect to religion wouldn't matter if he was neon green skinned.

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– throwaway531 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

This was over a decade ago.

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– current_horror 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

If Jesus had raped or killed anyone, the FBI would've categorized him as white.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

BREAKING: White Middle Eastern Yeshua ben Yoseph arrested for murder of innocent, unarmed black man.

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