maybe we should start using the term (((white))) instead of white if you know what i mean
Doesn't matter. Even if someone were to fully cite things for that person... If they don't agree with it they'd just throw accusations like "this writer/outlet has a history of racism, etc. so I can't accept that as a legitimate source"
"interesting. Now please take it down from the door. you're just spreading low intelligence, racist, misogynistic, transphobic, fascist ideology and I will call on the authorities to crack down on you and close your cafe"
And it'll be a valuable learning experience
Wow I'd better get to hiking whatever there is left that we're allowed to before they close all the mountains in nsw
No I'm seriously in agreement. I was just just visit up in the satanic panic. It was retarded to think there was any satanism in anime. It's just dumb entertainment. We are all weak minded and seek vices.
I'm gonna be more proactive and call out all the retarded fear mongering, because a lot of it on these boards are people overreacting to some delusion that satanists control world. They should learn to fix themselves first
No I agree with you 100% people are weak nothing helps them
Humanity is doomed to fall because there's no way to fix the addict/junky/herbivore problems
Just look at the fandoms for anything. Anime fans, comic book fans, movie fans, literature fans.
So you just confirmed it for me. The No camp just see the book and just draw the links from the book. It's all fiction right?
I see it as how the ideas from that book or any other book influence people, how it leads them to act and then the overall trajectory of things based to the sum of those actions.
What do you think the logical conclusion is after generations of media continuously pushing imagery of a 2-tier society, with the lower end suffering mentally, physically, etc. ... fictional worlds where broken people are commonplace and is just the ways things are ... and that this type of society is well established... with the main plot points being the struggle to reject or reinforce that society ... and that when the unwanted parts start to break through into our society because of "progress" ?
I had to compromise and weaken the argument with that comment you quoted just because it was obvious that it didn't have to be said. But this topic was loaded from the start, I should've understood that. People only wanna see a binary hard Yes or hard No.
My stance is always "Yes there is something to it, and here's why". By saying No, end of the story. By saying Maybe it's basically gonna be the same as saying No since the entire stance can be dismantled by poking at the exceptions. I decided to commit to saying Yes.
The entire medium is muddied, yes. Some satanic influences the way I see it and some not.....
....Pretty much everything is muddied so ok I agree with you! There is nothing satanic about anime. Nothing at all. Nothing satanic at all in this world, it's just crazy talk. This legalisation of child pedophilia, transgenderism, slave-like work life balance, all of it. All of topics in KIA are all bullshit dumbass overreactions because there's no deeper meaning behind anything people do. They all just do random dumbass things that we laugh at, because we just laugh for no reason at all.
There is no degeneracy in the world today. All these lady boys and rainbow hair-coloured crossdressers should account for more of the population, it's just progress. They definitely weren't conditioned over a period of decades watching anime. They just felt like doing it one day.
I guess my idea of what is satanic in media is different to most people who've commented. I'm guessing you're trying to see some occult references, devil symbolism, rituals, that sort.. I see it as the destruction of what it means to be human, and the control system that ensures that while severing ties to a higher self/being/spirit/purpose, torture in a sense
Attack on Titan... you reminded me about that series. Thinking about it there are elements to it that are satanic in my view that might fit the other definition. The world has been placed into a system that feeds off of the suffering and continued torture of the people
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Marley and Paradis have been told a false history that has controlled how they perceive and the world & respond to it. Going on for generations
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Instead of looking within to achieve personal growth, everyone is always externalising hatred and blame, which only serves to further the lie. To further this control system of the mind
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If you want to see the ritual element of the satanism portrayed in the series, the people of paradis are routinely assaulted by Titans sent from Marley. They have no knowledge of it, Marley has no knowledge that Paradis have forgotten the past. It's a vicious cycle of senseless slaughter, blood ritual
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Then there is the child sacrificial ritual. In Paradis the Titans have made life so bad that done if the children (the protag group we follow) have no issue risking their life to fight off Titans. They willingly play along into the ritual. The higher ups in Paradis kind of knew the true history and still permit sending kids to be slaughtered despite that.
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Then in Marley the children are even more brainwashed through historical guilt that they too are eager to give up their lives for the "greater good", to also participate in the mind control system so that it continues to function. Some want to become Titans, discarding their human selves, just so they get an edge in the blood ritual. The adults demand it or encourage it, for the sake of reparations and making peace
It's not all anime of course, but there are just some that stand out too much that I can't unsee it. The problem is that it's becoming normalised. When you're shown so many representations of a world that wants to break you, but to reject it means ostracism from society ... Would you be surprised or not bat an eye when that same kind of world is at your doorstep?
The furry example is a good bridge to the Loli.
They may not wanna fuck them but they wanna become them. Then groups of them become them and wanna fuck each other within the group.
It seems harmless at the moment but it could start a slippery slope like gay to LGBT to drag bordering on grooming kids if these groups get a little bigger and more vocal.
To the first point because the represent Loli like real life people, it again makes it appear harmless and related to fiction. But over time the appeal gains traction as it becomes more mainstream, normalised, and as more fans cross boundaries with their fandom. I see it happening more in the West first
Like it or not that's my take
No, I would like them if there was a reasonable basis for it. But thinking about it there are very few media that I can recall that actually has a good rebel vs authority storyline
Re: the Marxist thing -- yes that is part of it exactly. Some of these villains get so much adoration desire being psychopathic
I think you got my stance on this mixed up. I'm not vouching for one side or the other within storylines, I was pointing out my take on how this is all presented to us
What about the impact on westerners? That appears to be what this topic is hinting towards
I see isekai as a method for conditioning the audience to warm up to a transhuman/post-human life in some way. i mean, "look at all these wonderful places to explore and abilities you have, not like in the real world that god made for us!"
The collectivism is seen as good most of the time even in a dystopia. Japan makes it look convincing because they make these shows look cool. I guess i should've put it better.
American media has similar collectivism presented in a slightly different flavour: the government and/or superheroes maintain the world order, while at the same time espouse some semblance of individualism. seen as good. Villains who have been hurt and see the world as broken try to change things in their own way, but usually end up going too far. i don't think it's that far off from japanese media. just that japan does it better
Look at Psycho Pass where the system is clearly damaging to the mental health of its citizens, and the ones who want to expose & dismantle that system are the villains. The ones who uphold the law to maintain the system are the heroes, so that it can continue to function off of the suffering of the people. by the end of it we're meant to see that as a virtuous thing
sure it's a body type. but the imagery is still powerful. a lot of people who are totally into it may eventually see them as no different to children
it's so widespread that the loli is normalised
There actually is a lot of satanic imagery, symbolism and themes that I have long since believed for years that Japan post WW2 is an experiment. Anime being one small part of it (I also believe how the Japanese economic boom-bust phenomenon was another part of the experiment)... Some people have pushed the idea of cool Japan for decades and it's allowed their anime, manga, etc. Go into some pretty weird shit
Lolis (sexualisation of underage girls), the beatiality both in some generic shows and in porn, transhumanism, sci-fi dystopia (post humanism, i.e so much anime looking at the deconstruction of the human), also extends to a lot of fantasy. And beyond there's so many different genres that still present a sense of authoritarian heirarchy and many stories revolve around characters working to advance up or fit in to the system (could be a loose connection to the beast system). The ones who reject the system are often villains
Speaking of villains, someone in another post bright to my attention the scores of luciferian-archetypal villains in Japanese pop media. Well known examples would be Kefka, Dio are just a handful that I can remember off the top of my head atm. These are characters that are oddly celebrated and have legions of fans
Must people I'm guessing haven't thought about it enough to see the connections because anime and all that dress it up very well
since season 2 looking back they started slipping in the occult references, the small hat politics/agenda, spiritual "truths". pretty much anything discussed here and around on Scored either gets spun on its head, or made light of so that to the normie audiences. the deep, profound wisdom & lies in this world get obscured with fiction
lol it's funny how neutered the term "racist" has become. really are buzzwords now
clearly OP meant it as a descriptor and did not write jap with ill intent, as you are well aware, and that tensigh guy can't process that. "Jap" = must be referring to race = racist !
The masses just want comfort and safety, and anything otherwise is "omg bad! we have to do everything to prevent and stop these bad things!!"
right when i decided to take street fighter seriously after all these years.
gonna be a Ken main now
someone needs to add this to a new montage with all his hypocritical quotes
always ask a potential future lay if they've had literally all vaccines in existence & all their health conditions before making bodily contact or exchanging fluids. it's only fair after the c19 vaccine hysteria
Thankfully I was told about this a year ago, so I got this done over the phone... Which didn't seem to be an option now