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I've been seeing lots of people (probably including lots of bots) on TheDonald

It's beyond astroturfed now. And I have no doubt many of those posters are bots, or at least out of some intel unit. I like to blackpill over there to make them smell their own bullshit.

The same kinds of weak excuses were given for Afghanistan (Bin Laden was there, and the Taliban was behind 9/11), to Iran (they're "2 weeks" from getting nukes!), to backing the "rebels" in Syria (Assad used chemical weapons on civilians), to backing the rebels in Libya (Gaddafi is an evil despot), to backing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (it was the "arab spring" and we support "democracy"), to invading Iraq the second time (Saddam had WMDs!), to invading Iraq the first time (Saddam was ripping babies out of incubators!), to Viet Nam (they attacked our boats!), etc.... Every single excuse was a lie. Every single one. And yet, many idiot right wingers still believe the lies.

Incredibly stated. Had to quote this for posterity. Thank you for at least listing all the horseshit that has been shoved down our throats for decades. I cannot begin to explain the deep contempt I have for our current incarnation of 'government'. All lies straight from the pit of Hell.

I hope the the lies become so ridiculously obvious it's like dropping a bag of hammers on the head of every idiot still swallowing the propaganda.

I laughed out loud in real life. Seriously gave me a good chuckle.

For a final note: I've seen enough. I won't be participating in the next merry-go-round of dogshit. All trust capital has been spent and I am now out of fucks to give.

Great summary and great rant.

Apparently, to convince the normies on why we have to invade [insert country here], they just have to be fed a few slightly plausible lies told by a few "experts", and it's apparently enough for them.

In a way the MAGA influencers are correct that the speed and apparent ease of the operation are pretty good selling points to people. The country isn't geared up for a beachhead on Venezuela with a few battalions of Marines, but they'll rah rah for Delta Force doing some kind of movie script mission.

Iran is being sold the same way. According to Ben Shapiro it'll just be "a few precise airstrikes" and if the government decides to fight back then that'll open the door for "more airstrikes." They are explicitly emphasizing that there will be no nation-building commitment, so roughly speaking we are around the Kosovo level of intervention.

It remains to be seen, however, if that will be enough to destabilize the Iranian regime. They have proved quite resilient.

Republicans and Milititary bugmen go apeshit over action. Especially if its shock and awe stuff like bombing and using Super secret delta seal commando team 642794 to rappel in and kidnap hajiman #3728 from terroristan #47282.

The rabble needs entertainment to distract them from the tightening noose of Palantir.

Even my liberal friends believe Chyyyna is using TikTok as a bioweapon to delude the masses. Propaganda is suprisingly effective.

At least, allegedly, we went after Saddam because he had WMDs and could have killed millions of Americans.

Not even close. He never had them. And I knew that myself when I was in Kuwait in the late 90's. Same time that he kicked the inspectors out. We never found any evidence he had WMD's. All that BS is from 'Curveball'. All manufactured. Kill millions of Americans? That's quite laughable.

The only thing he may have been 'guilty' of is contracting with a French aerospace firm to build a long range missile launch system. One that could easily hit Israel. Our 'greatest ally' simply found that unacceptable.

This is one of the best ways to spot lies and liars. If they're not logically consistent in their actions and beliefs, it means they're lying.

For example, if their outward stated purpose for attacking Iran is because "gotta protect the downtrodden protestors", then they're lying, because if that were true and they were logically consistent, we'd have to be engaged all over the planet to help the poor downtrodden folk. We haven't done that, so they're hypocrites only telling slightly plausible lies to fool the gullible.

Another example, if they claim the attack on Iran is about denuclearization, then they're lying, because if denuclearization of dangerous nations was a priority, we'd have attacked Israel decades ago, and assuming their neocon propaganda to be true, we'd also attack Russia, China, Korth Korea, and Pakistan. We haven't done these things, so it's an obvious hypocrisy and lie.

This is why logic and consistency are so crucial for us. It's not necessarily to help convince normies in arguments, but to help us spot lies and liars.

Adding onto this, we've already seen American nuclear subs launch cruise missiles with excellent effect on target with almost no detection (until people leaked that it had fired because nobody even knew it was there, and people started gloating).

Thinking about it now, that would probably be the most likely avenue of attack, as Iran would certainly have now way of detecting them, and no way of stopping the missiles once they were in there air. None of our gulf allies including Saudi Arabia and Qatar (patoey!) would inform the Iranians of a strike from a submarine. One or two submarines firing cruise missiles would only cause minimal damage generally, or major damage in specific places; so like Milosovich, it could deter further massacres if a single important place was struck (or somebodies house).

The biggest risk would be an Iranian counter-battery strike on Qatari & American bases in the area. Given how the carrier task force would have the most anti-missile systems available, I'm not confident a proper missile attack from the Iranians using their best stuff (if one is still possible) could be stopped. Most likely, American forces would need to be immediately repositioned off base to reduce casualties, like they did back in Al-Asad in 2020.

Question is, is such an exchange worth it? No, probably not. However, if Iran's missile sites aren't functioning, or the target of the cruise missile attack are the missiles themselves, maybe the calculation is better. I don't know enough to be sure.

Then again, if you're the Iranians, would you really want to use your missiles on the Americans for conducting a small strike on your shit, or wait for a real Israeli air attack. Israel could very well launch a major air offensive themselves; but they'd be seen coming literally a thousand miles away because Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Turkey are gonna call them out immediately, even if they don't intercept them.

Not really. Rubio was planning an attack for months, not really years. The assets moved into position and had been slowly testing Venezuela's military capacity while Delta was training daily how to raid Maduro's house.

Shit being on paper as a plan is nice, but actually maneuvering into position is a whole different thing.

If the Americans want to pull some black-ops shit; they can easily use CIA SAD guys, along with whatever network Mossad has in-country to conduct bombings and assassinations. TBH, some decent snipers could wreck havoc on police & militia shooting protestors if that was the primary concern. Libyan militias were actually famous for this, and the earlier parts of the coup in Ukraine had similar tactics. Snipers can stall armor, so there's plenty of shit that can be done to protect the protestors, or even collapse the government, without airstrikes.

"Surely the US doesn't give a shit about the Iranians on the ground."

little bit from column a, little bit from column b. Building rapport with the locals helps a lot in any military effort, and smoking a piece of shit who's machine gunning civilians gains you quite a few points.

It's not my fault you let the computer fry your brain into incoherence.