I hope I'm wrong (and might very well be), but it feels like this shit is getting more and more inevitable.
If not today, likely within the month.
I didn't vote for this. I actually voted against this.
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I am feeling the same thing. Worse, some of the boomers over at Jim's blog are all in on this. It is driving me nuts how they can fall for the same trick that has been used to get this fake and gay country into desert wars for decades now. Decades. One of my coworkers is in the guard and he just got call back for an "indefinite period.". Doesn't bode well.
I've been seeing lots of people (probably including lots of bots) on TheDonald swallow the excuses for our attack on Venezuela and why we kidnapped Maduro. Excuses like "he's funneling drugs into the U.S.", to "Venezuela helped facilitate the 2020 election steal", to "Hamas has terrorist cells in Venezuela", to "the Venezuelan people want us there", and those idiots are swallowing all of it. They swallow it just enough for the news cycle to change topics, so they don't think on it too much, and realize how awfully stupid and blatantly false it is.
Apparently, to convince the normies on why we have to invade [insert country here], they just have to be fed a few slightly plausible lies told by a few "experts", and it's apparently enough for them. For the people still sycophanting over Trump, being told about Hamas, drugs, and election stealing is enough. I can't believe anyone would be retarded enough to think Venezuela of all places was central to manipulating our election results, when most of the people involved are right here in our own country. It's insane that anyone could believe the "drugs bad" angle for why we attacked Venezuela, because if that were the case, we should be attacking dozens of countries, many with far more guilt of funneling drugs (like Mexico), not to mention the largest importer of drugs is the CIA and our own government.
The same kinds of weak excuses were given for Afghanistan (Bin Laden was there, and the Taliban was behind 9/11), to Iran (they're "2 weeks" from getting nukes!), to backing the "rebels" in Syria (Assad used chemical weapons on civilians), to backing the rebels in Libya (Gaddafi is an evil despot), to backing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (it was the "arab spring" and we support "democracy"), to invading Iraq the second time (Saddam had WMDs!), to invading Iraq the first time (Saddam was ripping babies out of incubators!), to Viet Nam (they attacked our boats!), etc.... Every single excuse was a lie. Every single one. And yet, many idiot right wingers still believe the lies.
I hope we do attack Iran. I hope the lies become so ridiculously obvious it's like dropping a bag of hammers on the head of every idiot still swallowing the propaganda. I hope their idiocy actually physically injures them. I pray every day for God to show everyone how thoroughly and completely they've been lied to, and every day God answers my prayers.
It's beyond astroturfed now. And I have no doubt many of those posters are bots, or at least out of some intel unit. I like to blackpill over there to make them smell their own bullshit.
Incredibly stated. Had to quote this for posterity. Thank you for at least listing all the horseshit that has been shoved down our throats for decades. I cannot begin to explain the deep contempt I have for our current incarnation of 'government'. All lies straight from the pit of Hell.
I laughed out loud in real life. Seriously gave me a good chuckle.
For a final note: I've seen enough. I won't be participating in the next merry-go-round of dogshit. All trust capital has been spent and I am now out of fucks to give.
Great summary and great rant.
In a way the MAGA influencers are correct that the speed and apparent ease of the operation are pretty good selling points to people. The country isn't geared up for a beachhead on Venezuela with a few battalions of Marines, but they'll rah rah for Delta Force doing some kind of movie script mission.
Iran is being sold the same way. According to Ben Shapiro it'll just be "a few precise airstrikes" and if the government decides to fight back then that'll open the door for "more airstrikes." They are explicitly emphasizing that there will be no nation-building commitment, so roughly speaking we are around the Kosovo level of intervention.
It remains to be seen, however, if that will be enough to destabilize the Iranian regime. They have proved quite resilient.
That's one of the reasons this new MAGA variant of neocon warhawking is pissing me off so much. They're apparently fine with doing exactly the same things we've been doing for decades, the things they claim to be against (neocons, warhawking, regime change, needless wars, enriching globalists and military industrial complex), the things they claimed to like about Trump's campaign promises (LOL), but so long as it's concentrated and doesn't last long, they're fine with it. Bunch of spineless hypocrites.
If they actually held to their morals and virtues, it wouldn't matter how long or short an evil things lasts, because they'd be against it regardless.
Republicans and Milititary bugmen go apeshit over action. Especially if its shock and awe stuff like bombing and using Super secret delta seal commando team 642794 to rappel in and kidnap hajiman #3728 from terroristan #47282.
The rabble needs entertainment to distract them from the tightening noose of Palantir.
Even my liberal friends believe Chyyyna is using TikTok as a bioweapon to delude the masses. Propaganda is suprisingly effective.
Worse. The propaganda is more inept.
At least, allegedly, we went after Saddam because he had WMDs and could have killed millions of Americans. We're going after Iran because...they're mean to protestors?! It's just so fucking stupid. The whole thing is so fucking stupid.
Not even close. He never had them. And I knew that myself when I was in Kuwait in the late 90's. Same time that he kicked the inspectors out. We never found any evidence he had WMD's. All that BS is from 'Curveball'. All manufactured. Kill millions of Americans? That's quite laughable.
The only thing he may have been 'guilty' of is contracting with a French aerospace firm to build a long range missile launch system. One that could easily hit Israel. Our 'greatest ally' simply found that unacceptable.
Read what you quoted again. I said "allegedly," not that I thought he had them. I'm just saying that the existential threat of the propaganda with WMDs was much more impressive and actionable than the idea that Iran might not do the whole 'human rights' thing in the same way we allegedly do.
That's it. I'm not saying there were WMDs. Hell, at the time, I was a liberal, literally out there on the streets waving signs, probably about no blood for oil or some shit.
This is one of the best ways to spot lies and liars. If they're not logically consistent in their actions and beliefs, it means they're lying.
For example, if their outward stated purpose for attacking Iran is because "gotta protect the downtrodden protestors", then they're lying, because if that were true and they were logically consistent, we'd have to be engaged all over the planet to help the poor downtrodden folk. We haven't done that, so they're hypocrites only telling slightly plausible lies to fool the gullible.
Another example, if they claim the attack on Iran is about denuclearization, then they're lying, because if denuclearization of dangerous nations was a priority, we'd have attacked Israel decades ago, and assuming their neocon propaganda to be true, we'd also attack Russia, China, Korth Korea, and Pakistan. We haven't done these things, so it's an obvious hypocrisy and lie.
This is why logic and consistency are so crucial for us. It's not necessarily to help convince normies in arguments, but to help us spot lies and liars.