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I'm waking up tomorrow to hear we hit Iran, right?
posted 154 days ago by Kienan 154 days ago by Kienan +46 / -0

I hope I'm wrong (and might very well be), but it feels like this shit is getting more and more inevitable.

If not today, likely within the month.

I didn't vote for this. I actually voted against this.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 154 days ago +7 / -0

Highly unlikely that it will be tonight.

Carrier groups aren't in position for such a strike. Unless Trump's planning on flying more B-1bombers from Iowa and refueling the entire distance. While that's possible, and we have done it, it's a hell of a request to a make without months of planning and pre-positioning. Maybe they kept the re-fuelers in position, but it's still a herculean task to bomb them tonight.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 154 days ago +7 / -0

This actually is true. The carriers are not ready. There could be a minor attack like a cruise missile from a sub or something. Watch for news of carrier groups and other forces moving to the region. That's how you something big is about to go down.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 154 days ago +2 / -0

Adding onto this, we've already seen American nuclear subs launch cruise missiles with excellent effect on target with almost no detection (until people leaked that it had fired because nobody even knew it was there, and people started gloating).

Thinking about it now, that would probably be the most likely avenue of attack, as Iran would certainly have now way of detecting them, and no way of stopping the missiles once they were in there air. None of our gulf allies including Saudi Arabia and Qatar (patoey!) would inform the Iranians of a strike from a submarine. One or two submarines firing cruise missiles would only cause minimal damage generally, or major damage in specific places; so like Milosovich, it could deter further massacres if a single important place was struck (or somebodies house).

The biggest risk would be an Iranian counter-battery strike on Qatari & American bases in the area. Given how the carrier task force would have the most anti-missile systems available, I'm not confident a proper missile attack from the Iranians using their best stuff (if one is still possible) could be stopped. Most likely, American forces would need to be immediately repositioned off base to reduce casualties, like they did back in Al-Asad in 2020.

Question is, is such an exchange worth it? No, probably not. However, if Iran's missile sites aren't functioning, or the target of the cruise missile attack are the missiles themselves, maybe the calculation is better. I don't know enough to be sure.

Then again, if you're the Iranians, would you really want to use your missiles on the Americans for conducting a small strike on your shit, or wait for a real Israeli air attack. Israel could very well launch a major air offensive themselves; but they'd be seen coming literally a thousand miles away because Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Turkey are gonna call them out immediately, even if they don't intercept them.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 4 points 154 days ago +4 / -0

If the US does a strike like that, it will be a face-saving thing so Trump can look tough after promising to attack.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 154 days ago +3 / -0

It doesn't necessarily have to be face-saving only. Like with Milosevich, if you target the right places, and you have saboteurs on the ground continuing to operate behind the scenes, and your goal is to actually just stop Iranian forces from killing civilians, that is a way get them to do that.

Even if regime change is the objective, as with Venezuela, why does the regime have to change this second? We yeeted Maduro, but the regime is actually still there. Truly, the urgency from both the rioters and the regime is that both are convinced the other will kill every last one of them (currently, both are correct). If you can allow an avenue of egress for the regime where they don't have to get killed, and the protestors don't have to worry about having their whole family executed, maybe a slower form of transition is possible. After all, there's still basically no one who could claim legitimacy in the opposition if the regime fell today.

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– Kienan [S] 3 points 154 days ago +3 / -0

Highly unlikely that it will be tonight...Carrier groups aren't in position for such a strike.

Good point, you can often see more signs faster.

While that's possible, and we have done it, it's a hell of a request to a make without months of planning and pre-positioning.

Honestly, I think we have been planning for a while. Look at the sudden strike on Venezuela. This shit has been in the pipeline for ages.

So, I get what you're saying, and it's a good point...but it's also still possible this shit is locked in.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 154 days ago +4 / -0

Not really. Rubio was planning an attack for months, not really years. The assets moved into position and had been slowly testing Venezuela's military capacity while Delta was training daily how to raid Maduro's house.

Shit being on paper as a plan is nice, but actually maneuvering into position is a whole different thing.

If the Americans want to pull some black-ops shit; they can easily use CIA SAD guys, along with whatever network Mossad has in-country to conduct bombings and assassinations. TBH, some decent snipers could wreck havoc on police & militia shooting protestors if that was the primary concern. Libyan militias were actually famous for this, and the earlier parts of the coup in Ukraine had similar tactics. Snipers can stall armor, so there's plenty of shit that can be done to protect the protestors, or even collapse the government, without airstrikes.

"Surely the US doesn't give a shit about the Iranians on the ground."

little bit from column a, little bit from column b. Building rapport with the locals helps a lot in any military effort, and smoking a piece of shit who's machine gunning civilians gains you quite a few points.

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– Kienan [S] 4 points 154 days ago +4 / -0

Not really. Rubio was planning an attack for months, not really years.

I never said years. I said "ages." Which is ambiguous. Point is, it's possible that, just like with Venezuela, we have sneaky Iran attacks in the tubes. The admin has clearly wanted this for some time. Considering they clearly wanted both, it's likely at least potential Iran attacks have been planned just as long as the Venezuela attacks, and so are ready to go whenever they pull the trigger.

Honestly, it would be more surprising if we didn't have Iran attacks at the ready, considering the dialogue coming out of the Whitehouse.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 3 points 154 days ago +3 / -0

I get the impression that they expected the protest gayop to be more successful. It sounds like Iran was better at jamming Starlink than they expected, and that is disrupting the gayop.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2026/01/13/kill-switch-iran-shuts-down-starlink-internet-for-first-time/?streamIndex=0

That said, they might just attack anyway. Key is looking out for carrier movements. If they start moving, expect something pretty big.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 154 days ago +2 / -0

It would be impossible that nothing's drawn up. The question is more about what's actually ready. Getting operators in is easier than moving ships and aircraft. We had CIA SAD guys in Afghanistan within 5 days of the 9/11 attacks. But, the navy was so out position that normal air strikes wouldn't be available for over a month.

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– casketsenator 1 point 154 days ago +1 / -0

The Ayatollah is ready to leave for Russia. His planes are full of gold.

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/irans-leader-plans-to-flee-to-russia-if-security-team-fails/news-story/856974ccd39f922c6819fac6f2140ab8

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 154 days ago +6 / -0

"Do you guys have 10 minute deliveries like we do in India?"

https://scored.co/c/Memes/p/1ARwUdHPyX/it-was-magic/c/4eZCZn3hpvY

jeet alert

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– Gizortnik 1 point 154 days ago +1 / -0

Khamenei, 86, will catch a flight with his inner circle, including roughly 20 aides and members of his family, if the Islamic Republic’s army is overwhelmed by the swelling protests – or if the security forces decide to defect, an intelligence source to The Times

Journalist: "I need to write something, please help me."

Guy in S-2: "Here's an obvious thing that any idiot would do in his situation."

Journalist: "That's perfect. Now back to doing fent and killing puppies."

I don't know that he's ready to leave, but it would behoove him too. I like the idea that him and Assad are going to play HOI4 together.

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