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IO Interactive says ‘old school Bond’ would be ‘tone deaf’ today as 007 First Light moves the character towards more ‘modern values’ (archive.ph)
posted 155 days ago by Ahaus667 155 days ago by Ahaus667 +69 / -0
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– Smith1980 36 points 155 days ago +36 / -0

Give me tone deaf. Give me a 60s era bond that every man wants to be and every woman wants wants to be with. A nice modern take on Bond would be him charming women using likes that would normally be seen as “creepy” but since he is attractive it’s ok.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 22 points 155 days ago +22 / -0

They’re pandering to the 1% of female gamers who will complain despite never buying the game or playing it regardless

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– Smith1980 9 points 155 days ago +9 / -0

That does remind me to get all the Fleming books. Have you ever read them?

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– Ahaus667 [S] 7 points 155 days ago +7 / -0

I read casino royale years ago in high school, definitely a good series to put the the bedtime reading list

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– DoctorDank 7 points 155 days ago +7 / -0

Give me a faithful remake of No One Lives Forever, while we're at it.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

How would that fit for a video game though?

If you depict the sex, you're getting an AO rating and being listed alongside the AI hentai slop on Steam. If you don't, it's just a five second fade to black for no logical reason a la Mass Effect.

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– Smith1980 3 points 155 days ago +3 / -0

I mean you don’t have to show it. Can be optional romantic choices. Just have him be a traditionally masculine man

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– Niemo 2 points 154 days ago +2 / -0

Why are you responding to him?

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– Smith1980 2 points 154 days ago +2 / -0

Good point

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– 70thLike 1 point 154 days ago +1 / -0

Idk, KCD2 didn't get AO despite their gay butt sex scenes. They don't have no show full penetration, or anything.

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 34 points 155 days ago +34 / -0

modern values

So the assassinations will involve Bond as a troon wielding a bike lock, correct?

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– AgnosticTemplar 18 points 155 days ago +18 / -0

And instead of stemming the spread of communism, Bond will be purging Europe of right-wing political candidates.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

You mean natalist pedophiles?

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/11/17/jeffrey-epstein-had-access-to-trumps-inner-circle-while-working-with-steve-bannon/

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– m0r1arty 18 points 155 days ago +18 / -0

I'll not be playing anything from that wonderful diverse team of people from various backgrounds, sexualites and ethnicites ever again (HINT: They are all gay Indians that will rob you for a penny) but I will be making sure that my T1 gets this pirated to as many people as possible :)

That's my prepurchase of the 2 DLC episodes for Hitman 2 not being repurchased to play some shite IOI - see what Karma and Izzat is?

And before any goody gundar tries to explain their business plan or whatever the fuck goons like that do. Go and support Conner McGregor or stop raping tourists in India - I'm happy either way.

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– alucard13mmfmj 12 points 155 days ago +12 / -0

Cliche and stereotypes is fun. The most endearing and timeless characters are cliche and stereotypes.

The "break expectations" angle is disasterous.

Men want a badass, no fucks given, fuck pretty girls and save the day handsome dude. Women want the same thing. Instead men wants to be james bond and women want to be the women james bond fucks.

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– throwawayaccount2037 11 points 155 days ago +11 / -0

I'm just glad we still have 007 Everything or Nothing -- it's still the best Bond game ever made during a time when EA wasn't complete trash.

The driving segments were handled by the same team working on the Need for Speed games -- and the NFS titles during the mid-aughts were some of the greatest of all time -- and the stealth segments were competently done, mirrored after Siphon Filter and Splinter Cell.

The gunplay was a little finicky but it worked, and the action set pieces are still some of the best in gaming, 20 years later.

EA set a pretty high bar with that game and only went downhill thereafter (the remake of From Russia With Love was typical EA cash-in fanfare) and no other company has bothered to since then. Blood Diamond had the foundations to be good, but Activision was more concerned with Call of Duty at the time.

That being said, I didn't particularly like the look of IO's rendition of Bond when I first saw him, and nothing they showed of the gameplay or story looked remotely interesting. This is a real shame because a Bond game running in the Hitman framework should have been a PERFECT combination. A spy-thriller set in sandbox environments mixing detective work, stealth, and investigation gameplay could have been sublime. But the gameplay looks excruciatingly dull and riddled with exactly what they said... "modern values".

Hard pass here.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 10 points 155 days ago +10 / -0

Make it brown and gay

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– realerfunction 8 points 155 days ago +8 / -0

fucking kill yourself instead of ruining the character for your faggot cause

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– Mpetey123 8 points 155 days ago +8 / -0

Bond was never a super conservative character to begin with. Yeah he's probably a little more patriotic than an average citizen, but other than that, he's never been treated as having old fashioned values. So what exactly are they changing to give him "modern values?"

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– HallucinatoryBeing 7 points 155 days ago +7 / -0

GoldenEye had an entire scene where Judi Dench's M dressed Bond down for being "old fashioned".

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– Mpetey123 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

That's a fair point.

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– MLGS 4 points 155 days ago +4 / -0

The company that made their fortune off a series about an international master assassin should have been perfect for a James Bond game.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 4 points 155 days ago +4 / -0

Sean "Smack Her In the Mouth" Connery's Bond is not only timeless, but sorely needed in these modern times.

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– SilverStagg 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

RIP Bond

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 149 days ago +1 / -0

Hey, just a heads up, all your comments were stuck in an automatic filter that no-one was cleaning up and nobody could see or reply to them.

We're gonna be approving posts properly again now, you should be able to get past the filter threshold pretty fast now people are able to actually upvote you. Sorry you had that frustration. A bunch more people just got the keys to the maintenance closet and I'm cleaning up as fast as I can, like a good jannie should.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

If it means we don't have some whiny Z-lister "Bond girl", I don't see anything wrong with that. It's a shooter video game, nobody gives two fucks about romantic interests. Go jerk off to Baldur's Gate.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 22 points 155 days ago +22 / -0

“The franchise must change to suit me”

How are you not a woman again?

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– Kaarous 19 points 155 days ago +19 / -0

Because he's a troon instead. Much worse.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

The franchise should change to suit the medium it's on.

Who the fuck wants a romance story in a game, genuinely? The retards who jerked it to BG3?

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– Niemo 2 points 154 days ago +2 / -0

Why are you responding to him?

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– Kaarous 12 points 155 days ago +12 / -0

We get it, you're gay.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 12 points 155 days ago +12 / -0

He's not even against feminism anymore. Sad.

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– Kaarous 11 points 155 days ago +11 / -0

Never was. Everything he says is a barely veiled disguise for being anti White.

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– DresdenFirebomber 3 points 155 days ago +3 / -0

"anti white"

Doesn't exist.

Those who think it does, are mentally ill.

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– Kaarous 4 points 155 days ago +4 / -0

Anyone who says it doesn't, is one.

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– DresdenFirebomber 3 points 155 days ago +3 / -0

You're a prime example that it doesn't exist. You've repeatedly confessed your complete hatred for the unmarried and childless.

It doesn't take a genius to work out why you're inciting racial tensions. You want to create a fake crisis and use that power to go after the people you truly despise, those who resist the Christcuck agenda.

Not a single sane person is with you on the birth rate cultism, and you'll find that out when you're washed out of power by the blue wave.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

I am, I just don't see what's controversial about not having the romance/sex scenes in a fucking shooter.

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– DresdenFirebomber 4 points 155 days ago +4 / -0

Of course you'd support bombarding people with obnoxious romance scenes. Anything to push the birth rate 0.0000000001% higher.

Paid shill with absolutely zero principles.

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– Kaarous 5 points 155 days ago +5 / -0

Yeah everyone knows that the REAL James Bond is an asexual weirdo who doesn't at all act like a whoremongering maniac.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

I wish you retards would decide between banning all mentions of sex and pushing it on everyone. It's really schizophrenic. You want to ban porn but you want sex scenes in a shooter game? I mean, we all know why you do. You're far more likely to push your virulent agenda through media where you control the framing, than media where the framing is controlled by public taste. It's why you banned me from Gaming in a little power trip for calling out how forcing people to sit through a cutscene of marriage in Marvel Rivals was Chinese propaganda.

Also, if you want to be technical about Bond, he's a man whore because his true love died in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. You'd know that if you, or anyone you cared about, actually watched the fucking movies.

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– Kaarous 3 points 155 days ago +3 / -0

Lmao only the insane think reality is propaganda.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

So you support the CCP backed NetEase Corporation agenda?

I knew you were a commie, all natalists are, but to say that Chinese propaganda isn't propaganda because you agree with it is just amazing.

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– Kaarous 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

So you

No, not that thing you made up.

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– 8theBritish 1 point 155 days ago +1 / -0

"Game with wedding skins is bad because it's natalist propaganda!"

And cod was propaganda for the military industrial complex during the war on terror. I don't see you getting pissy about Activision pumping out shooters and getting more young bucks comfortable going into a meat grinder despite constantly going "All wars (except WW2) are feminist wars!".

Even then, if having two canonically married characters in a game get wedding skins is enough to classify as "natalist propaganda", then I guess games like men at war assault squad or cod world at war are "natalist propaganda" too for letting you win as the nazis or soviets.

At this point why not start your own "tropes vs antinalists" video series?

Hell, I can already imagine it.

"There you are, playing your gacha game with your favourite waifu. All of a sudden... You're a natalist!"

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– BeefyBelisarius 10 points 155 days ago +10 / -0

They'll just make the next Bond an insufferable girlboss, like they did to Dr. Who.

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– DresdenFirebomber 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

We already know this is false, the first trailers for the game showed the male character.

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– BeefyBelisarius 3 points 155 days ago +3 / -0

ESL Hungarian woman doesn't know what the word "next" means.

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– DresdenFirebomber 3 points 155 days ago +3 / -0

It's you who seems to be ESL. Why would you talk about the movies when the post is about the game?

IOI has no influence on who gets casted as the next James Bond.

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– MegoThor 2 points 155 days ago +2 / -0

So he’ll be gay?

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