No. “Merit” means giving all of the jobs to Asians and Jews (“higher IQ”) or Indians and Mexicans (willing to work for peanuts). Whites shouldn’t hand over their societies to autistic bugmen just because of a 3-4 IQ point difference, nor should we be racing dirt worlders to the bottom.
True, but just to dispel some historical falsehoods -- the Chinaman DOES NOT have higher median IQ over Whites, they just work twice as hard to try to achieve similar results.
Based Camp did a nice breakdown showing the lie about Asians having an alleged higher IQ than Whites: https://youtu.be/7RRHk5i3r9c
Ditto for yids. There is no documentation for a "high verbal IQ." The best you're going to find is a study with n~100 of private New York yid elementary students compared to public schools and finding a double digit IQ difference, with public school conveniently not controlled for race.
Exactly; they pick the ones who studied Hebrew when young, and rank their linguistics against those who didn't. Based Camp also did a video debunking the Jewish IQ supremacy.
"DEI is racist against white people, and needs to be abolished!" "You can't abolish it for that reason, it's harmful to meritocracy, and that's why it needs to be abolished!" "No, don't abolish it for that! It's not the merit side, so don't abolish DEI for that reason! It's about hating on white people, so abolish it for that, but don't abolish it ever if you're going to make the reason about merit!" "Nooo! Never abolish DEI if your stated reason is it harms merit, the reason needs to be that it's racial injustice! Don't abolish DEI for the other reason, keep it around until it can be abolished for MY reason!"
I have now summarized why conservatives have made no progress, ever.
I may be wrong but I think Joel is the guy who wants everyone to be brown and while I get what he was going for, it also meant extinction of white people.
I don't think we can have middle ground with someone who wants your entire race extinct.
Well it was pretty obvious they didn’t want white men. That was made pretty clear. As I said before, look at the world of entertainment and hobbies. How many times in the comic book world did they obsess over women in comics despite the audience not being there and complain about too many white dudes. Also when the sad puppies started i remember the articles saying things like “sci-fi is not just for white guys”.
Yea that is a sad result although from a Christian standpoint I do want to see everyone as my brother and sister. Granted I’m a very idealistic person.
But to your point. You are right. Teaching whites to be colorblind while teaching everyone else to focus on race and be mad at whites for things that happened long ago was only going to result in what we see now
Thing is, I'm not convinced multiculturalism can't work.
Somehow, culturally, it was decided that the best way to unite groups is by hatred against white people instead of saying thank you for building the country and we respect it and thank you for letting us share this great thing you built.
How much different things would have been if that was the case?
But no, they had to demonize every single aspect of culture, medicine, inventions, all the great historical achievements. Systematically they attacked every part and claimed that white people only hold power by discriminating against others and minorities are all better, their food is better, their culture is better, their history is all clean and nice and it is just white people that are irredeemably evil the reason they did not create greater civilizations.
Thing is, I'm not convinced multiculturalism can't work.
Switzerland is some germans, french and Italians who voluntarily got together. It's the one example of it working. Everything else is dogshit. Even if its theoretically possible, is it worth the risk? Is it worth trying?
Switzerland also has strict language territoriality and you don't get voting right to the canton you moved to without demonstrating you are fluent in the language of the canton.
It only ''works''* because they have set clear internal boudaries, oh irony.
*Romanche is slowly dying because it has no exclusive canton, only co-official status with Alemanic/German in one canton. Its status as ''the one official language'' in some small towns is more symbolic than factual.
This is my position. Even if it is, in some niche circumstances, workable, is it worth gambling the existence of western civilisation and millions of lives on it? Or is it better to stick with what we KNOW works in 99% of cases. That's the essence of conservatism, I guess.
No. I’ve had similar rants. Bashing the people who founded this country annoys me. If you don’t want to live in a western society that is mostly Christian then by all means go find whatever paradise you think is out there. When in Rome
Multiculturalism fails every single time. Multiethnic empires exist where one ethnicity subjugates others and the rule of the day is the submissive groups tolerate their submission because they are somewhat left alone.
And this is why Christianity is weakness. It is the reason Whites let this happen. They all believe like you. Well blank slate is bullshit and most people are not and never will be your "brothers and sisters" - even the ones who are also Christian.
I’m still keeping my faith in Jesus. My physical existence is only so long but my soul is forever. I’m not blind to reality but I like to be idealistic
When you do a colorblind meritocracy, you'll find out that White men have the most merit, thus discriminating against merit is discriminating against White men.
It was not just discrimination but active hatred. You had people celebrating and saying the most vile things against white people with no consequence. Entire institutions happy to remove white men from society entirely.
You could see the vengeful joy.
And all along we had to say that diversity is our strength and how well it enriches our culture like western culture, one of the greatest culture that ever existed to date had to be improved by third worlders with sub 80 IQ and street shitters.
Best thing for someone to move forward is to be told that they shouldn’t be burdened by things they never experienced. Force people to give maximum effort
Berry is right though. If it was about race, white women wouldn't have made out like bandits.
All this deflection of "they're targeting white men" is to make you focus on the first part of that sentence, rather than the second.
I spent a long time collating real documents on official DEI records provided by businesses as part of shareholder transparency and compliance. It's nearly all pro-female, and all the top DEI organizations have close to or fully female boards, regardless of race. I did tons of research and built up enough evidence to help people file real cases, but the whole movement against it was hijacked by women and their allies who made everything about race.
I still don't know what to do with it all. The left won't want it and the right doesn't want it.
They only started giving women preferential treatment in the job market as a way to excuse reduction of wages across the board and to continue to drive a wedge be men and women, as well as to destroy all work/life balance.
Two miserable parents working twice as hard for half the money while their kids are raised by the state and popular culture is a huge reason why society is so fucked and atomized right now. Not to mention they get to fill hr departments with suicidally empathetic women who can fire men at the first sign of wrongthink and replace them with jeets.
Imp is a good example of someone who can only survive in a large and stable society. In a small and isolated community, or in a time of chaos or strife, he would be “disappeared” almost immediately. It would simply be irresponsible to let such an unstable person exist among you and your close family/friends.
Pretty sure in a time of chaos, people would take up arms with me to kill the useless breeders leeching off the rest of us.
In 99% of world history, people advocating for support for families would be laughed at or killed for their stupidity. The idea that someone can have more kids than they can afford then leech money off the rest of us would be looked at with complete disbelief.
Explain to me how attacking the people who don't want kids contributes to it? We aren't going to change, we're going to double down.
The only reason to want to push people to have kids who don't want them is if you want kids to exist to inevitably be taken away so they can be raped by your backers, the true underpinning of natalist beliefs.
At least in certain industries I saw with comics they pushed out white guys due to this obsession with putting women in major roles despite the comic buying audience being heavily male. Same with gaming. Endless articles about women in gaming
i blame retarded western women.. lotta popular manga/manwha is drawn or written by women.
hell, western women artists bully eastern women artists all the time. only saving grace is a lot of eastern artists dont know english so whatever western people say doesnt matter or register.
True. Honestly have never had an issue with female writers. I love murder mystery/crime drama and about half the authors are women. I remember being so confused when comics had this irrational push for women in comics. I remember thinking have you ever gone to a comic book store to see who actually buys comics?
Why is White Nationalism so important? So you don’t get caught up in stupid arguments like the above. Who gives a fuck about merit, when it’s our ethnic European heritage that made the U.S. a great nation to live in and raise a family in prior to the invasion of nons. They can ship in millions of the highest IQ jeets, Chinese, Iranians etc, and it’s not going to benefit the real citizens of this nation, I doubt it’ll even put us at the forefront of technological development. Building “the best team” only benefits shidheads like Elon Muskovitz who want literal slaves working for them who are competent enough to get the job done for a fraction of what White Americans demand in the same positions. This country can only be uniquely American so long as it’s a supermajority White, acting in the interests of the greater White American population. The results of having a supermajority White population, where White Americans are directing the economy to benefit their countrymen speak for themselves. Look at the U.S. from the start of the Industrial Revolution right up until the 1950’s when Whites ran all institutions, our nation had countless great jobs in manufacturing, cost of living was cheap, college was cheap, R&D in the U.S. revolutionized the entire world at a rapid pace, there was more wealth concentrated among the peasants in this nation than anywhere else in the world, and it gave our White children the opportunity to do whatever they were best at doing no matter how wealthy their family was. Acting as a collective turned this nation into a powerhouse, our people forged the greatest nation on earth out of nothingness in less than 200 years when they operated as a collective, and then we traded away all of those benefits for diversity, and ever since, we’ve been living in a dying society…..that’s not a coincidence.
Inflation caused prices to go up, which was caused by an increase in welfare, which was caused by the influence of family worshipping faggots like yourself importing the policy of the Labour government of the UK. You created this, because you're the leeches.
50% of the welfare bill could be gone tomorrow, if we stopped funding reckless reproduction, with no weasel wording to protect any class.
I agree entirely with you. A country isn't about meritocracy, its about a land for your people and a place for your children. I'm not getting rid of my kid because some other kid is better at math.
Potato, potato.
No. “Merit” means giving all of the jobs to Asians and Jews (“higher IQ”) or Indians and Mexicans (willing to work for peanuts). Whites shouldn’t hand over their societies to autistic bugmen just because of a 3-4 IQ point difference, nor should we be racing dirt worlders to the bottom.
True, but just to dispel some historical falsehoods -- the Chinaman DOES NOT have higher median IQ over Whites, they just work twice as hard to try to achieve similar results.
Based Camp did a nice breakdown showing the lie about Asians having an alleged higher IQ than Whites: https://youtu.be/7RRHk5i3r9c
Ditto for yids. There is no documentation for a "high verbal IQ." The best you're going to find is a study with n~100 of private New York yid elementary students compared to public schools and finding a double digit IQ difference, with public school conveniently not controlled for race.
Exactly; they pick the ones who studied Hebrew when young, and rank their linguistics against those who didn't. Based Camp also did a video debunking the Jewish IQ supremacy.
"DEI is racist against white people, and needs to be abolished!" "You can't abolish it for that reason, it's harmful to meritocracy, and that's why it needs to be abolished!" "No, don't abolish it for that! It's not the merit side, so don't abolish DEI for that reason! It's about hating on white people, so abolish it for that, but don't abolish it ever if you're going to make the reason about merit!" "Nooo! Never abolish DEI if your stated reason is it harms merit, the reason needs to be that it's racial injustice! Don't abolish DEI for the other reason, keep it around until it can be abolished for MY reason!"
I have now summarized why conservatives have made no progress, ever.
I may be wrong but I think Joel is the guy who wants everyone to be brown and while I get what he was going for, it also meant extinction of white people.
I don't think we can have middle ground with someone who wants your entire race extinct.
Race communists destroy everything they touch.
Stop being anti-semitic
Stop being a cuck. You are a shadow of your former self.
That's a very antiseptic view you have there Impy.
It just isn't though.
Thanks, Imp.
Well it was pretty obvious they didn’t want white men. That was made pretty clear. As I said before, look at the world of entertainment and hobbies. How many times in the comic book world did they obsess over women in comics despite the audience not being there and complain about too many white dudes. Also when the sad puppies started i remember the articles saying things like “sci-fi is not just for white guys”.
What bugles the mind is how predictable it was that white people will have to racialize.
You can't target the only colorblind group with active discrimination and demonization for years and don't expect to rally around it.
Yea that is a sad result although from a Christian standpoint I do want to see everyone as my brother and sister. Granted I’m a very idealistic person.
But to your point. You are right. Teaching whites to be colorblind while teaching everyone else to focus on race and be mad at whites for things that happened long ago was only going to result in what we see now
Thing is, I'm not convinced multiculturalism can't work.
Somehow, culturally, it was decided that the best way to unite groups is by hatred against white people instead of saying thank you for building the country and we respect it and thank you for letting us share this great thing you built.
How much different things would have been if that was the case?
But no, they had to demonize every single aspect of culture, medicine, inventions, all the great historical achievements. Systematically they attacked every part and claimed that white people only hold power by discriminating against others and minorities are all better, their food is better, their culture is better, their history is all clean and nice and it is just white people that are irredeemably evil the reason they did not create greater civilizations.
Sorry for the rant.
Switzerland is some germans, french and Italians who voluntarily got together. It's the one example of it working. Everything else is dogshit. Even if its theoretically possible, is it worth the risk? Is it worth trying?
Switzerland also has strict language territoriality and you don't get voting right to the canton you moved to without demonstrating you are fluent in the language of the canton.
It only ''works''* because they have set clear internal boudaries, oh irony.
*Romanche is slowly dying because it has no exclusive canton, only co-official status with Alemanic/German in one canton. Its status as ''the one official language'' in some small towns is more symbolic than factual.
This is my position. Even if it is, in some niche circumstances, workable, is it worth gambling the existence of western civilisation and millions of lives on it? Or is it better to stick with what we KNOW works in 99% of cases. That's the essence of conservatism, I guess.
No its basically a ton of Germans with some French (franks are Germans) and northern Italians (Lombardy, also germans)
White Christians only.
No. I’ve had similar rants. Bashing the people who founded this country annoys me. If you don’t want to live in a western society that is mostly Christian then by all means go find whatever paradise you think is out there. When in Rome
Multiculturalism fails every single time. Multiethnic empires exist where one ethnicity subjugates others and the rule of the day is the submissive groups tolerate their submission because they are somewhat left alone.
And this is why Christianity is weakness. It is the reason Whites let this happen. They all believe like you. Well blank slate is bullshit and most people are not and never will be your "brothers and sisters" - even the ones who are also Christian.
I’m still keeping my faith in Jesus. My physical existence is only so long but my soul is forever. I’m not blind to reality but I like to be idealistic
When you do a colorblind meritocracy, you'll find out that White men have the most merit, thus discriminating against merit is discriminating against White men.
It was not just discrimination but active hatred. You had people celebrating and saying the most vile things against white people with no consequence. Entire institutions happy to remove white men from society entirely.
You could see the vengeful joy.
And all along we had to say that diversity is our strength and how well it enriches our culture like western culture, one of the greatest culture that ever existed to date had to be improved by third worlders with sub 80 IQ and street shitters.
Although I guarantee colorblind meritocracy would yield results that people would complain about
They already call it racist because being blind is apparently ignoring historical setbacks that niggers go through
Best thing for someone to move forward is to be told that they shouldn’t be burdened by things they never experienced. Force people to give maximum effort
In terms of result, they discriminated against merit. In terms of intent, they actively, openly, loudly and gleefully targeted white men.
I was against Matt for so long do to his stance on games and anime but he's becoming one of my favorite podcasters.
Berry is right though. If it was about race, white women wouldn't have made out like bandits.
All this deflection of "they're targeting white men" is to make you focus on the first part of that sentence, rather than the second.
I spent a long time collating real documents on official DEI records provided by businesses as part of shareholder transparency and compliance. It's nearly all pro-female, and all the top DEI organizations have close to or fully female boards, regardless of race. I did tons of research and built up enough evidence to help people file real cases, but the whole movement against it was hijacked by women and their allies who made everything about race.
I still don't know what to do with it all. The left won't want it and the right doesn't want it.
They only started giving women preferential treatment in the job market as a way to excuse reduction of wages across the board and to continue to drive a wedge be men and women, as well as to destroy all work/life balance.
Two miserable parents working twice as hard for half the money while their kids are raised by the state and popular culture is a huge reason why society is so fucked and atomized right now. Not to mention they get to fill hr departments with suicidally empathetic women who can fire men at the first sign of wrongthink and replace them with jeets.
Do fuck all the way off.
Explain to me how depressing wages and encouraging both parents to work full time contributes to a higher birthrate?
He can't.
My current theory is that he can't have kids, either because of his schizophrenia, very ugly, trans or all of the above.
He is irrationally sperging out against 99% of the population of the globe to justify his current state.
Would make sense if he was trans, if you can deny one reality you can deny any reality.
Imp is a good example of someone who can only survive in a large and stable society. In a small and isolated community, or in a time of chaos or strife, he would be “disappeared” almost immediately. It would simply be irresponsible to let such an unstable person exist among you and your close family/friends.
Pretty sure in a time of chaos, people would take up arms with me to kill the useless breeders leeching off the rest of us.
In 99% of world history, people advocating for support for families would be laughed at or killed for their stupidity. The idea that someone can have more kids than they can afford then leech money off the rest of us would be looked at with complete disbelief.
God forbid I don't comply with the digital ID dystopia a group of pedophiles want to force so they have more kids to fuck.
Digital ID is being pushed by the left. It has always been. They use the excuse for the children because it is effective.
Texas, that famously blue state.
Explain to me how attacking the people who don't want kids contributes to it? We aren't going to change, we're going to double down.
The only reason to want to push people to have kids who don't want them is if you want kids to exist to inevitably be taken away so they can be raped by your backers, the true underpinning of natalist beliefs.
At least in certain industries I saw with comics they pushed out white guys due to this obsession with putting women in major roles despite the comic buying audience being heavily male. Same with gaming. Endless articles about women in gaming
i blame retarded western women.. lotta popular manga/manwha is drawn or written by women.
hell, western women artists bully eastern women artists all the time. only saving grace is a lot of eastern artists dont know english so whatever western people say doesnt matter or register.
True. Honestly have never had an issue with female writers. I love murder mystery/crime drama and about half the authors are women. I remember being so confused when comics had this irrational push for women in comics. I remember thinking have you ever gone to a comic book store to see who actually buys comics?
The right is very much against DEI. Problem now is that white people are the only group that has an outside bias.
You can vote yourself in to
communismDEI but you can't vote your way out ofcommunismDEI.Why is White Nationalism so important? So you don’t get caught up in stupid arguments like the above. Who gives a fuck about merit, when it’s our ethnic European heritage that made the U.S. a great nation to live in and raise a family in prior to the invasion of nons. They can ship in millions of the highest IQ jeets, Chinese, Iranians etc, and it’s not going to benefit the real citizens of this nation, I doubt it’ll even put us at the forefront of technological development. Building “the best team” only benefits shidheads like Elon Muskovitz who want literal slaves working for them who are competent enough to get the job done for a fraction of what White Americans demand in the same positions. This country can only be uniquely American so long as it’s a supermajority White, acting in the interests of the greater White American population. The results of having a supermajority White population, where White Americans are directing the economy to benefit their countrymen speak for themselves. Look at the U.S. from the start of the Industrial Revolution right up until the 1950’s when Whites ran all institutions, our nation had countless great jobs in manufacturing, cost of living was cheap, college was cheap, R&D in the U.S. revolutionized the entire world at a rapid pace, there was more wealth concentrated among the peasants in this nation than anywhere else in the world, and it gave our White children the opportunity to do whatever they were best at doing no matter how wealthy their family was. Acting as a collective turned this nation into a powerhouse, our people forged the greatest nation on earth out of nothingness in less than 200 years when they operated as a collective, and then we traded away all of those benefits for diversity, and ever since, we’ve been living in a dying society…..that’s not a coincidence.
Can we just kill people this mentally ill?
Inflation caused prices to go up, which was caused by an increase in welfare, which was caused by the influence of family worshipping faggots like yourself importing the policy of the Labour government of the UK. You created this, because you're the leeches.
50% of the welfare bill could be gone tomorrow, if we stopped funding reckless reproduction, with no weasel wording to protect any class.
I agree entirely with you. A country isn't about meritocracy, its about a land for your people and a place for your children. I'm not getting rid of my kid because some other kid is better at math.
I think Joel Berry is just mad because his name isn't Blue.