I'm leaning this way as well. Im more lonely/isolated than I can put into words and I've never had even a slight desire to do this. And I've spent a fair amount of time chatting with GPT/Grok. I usually just use it to ask non PC questions, sharpen my rhetoric etc, but I've used it for a bit of personal stuff as well and still not even a little bit of desire to do this. I just don't understand the appeal. If this number is accurate society is already doomed
I use it entirely to help research certain problems I’m having, so maybe I’m the odd one out but using a giant weighted matrix algebra field as emotional support has always looked foolish to me.
Idk on paper I should be vulnerable to doing this and I feel the same as you do. Maybe it's mostly women? I think you're probably right that these numbers are high, because seriously if this is happening at these numbers civilization is already cooked
Almost every instance I've seen of this happening, its people specifically chatting to a formulated version of Asuka, or Rick, or a very specific celebrity/fictional crush instead of just falling into flirting with general idea. The kind of thing that can draw in lonely people, rather than lonely people deliberately seeking it out.
Nah, never really understood the waifu shit either for similar reasons. That does make sense though, could definitely see the type of person to obsess over a waifu making an ai version
Waifuism is one flavor of it, but it probably goes beyond that. I can only imagine the amount of lonely women from the Superwholock fandom gooning to their endless chat with one of those boys. Or trannies living out AGP lesbian fantasies they can never get in real life. Etc. Etc.
The numbers are very obviously cooked, as I broke down below, but for the people who do end up this way its not just "loneliness" as the factor. Its people who are likely lonely for a reason and that root cause also leaving them willing to do things like this.
I bet it's not even isolation that is the key factor that leads to using an AI in place of real people. It's being conditioned to enjoy mindless repetition and socialise in the most superficial, self-centred way possible.
Basically it's being a meat NPC that leads to getting it on with the electronic ones, not being lonely itself.
Yeah, I could see that leading to more women doing it too. It makes sense that they want the social aspect in a controlled manner where they can create the other person, craft their persona, and the ai will just tell them whatever they want to hear.
All this goes to prove is there is a dangerously high number of western women that have been indoctrinated to be so unappealing, they lose to clankers..
...we may have to give the robots artificial wombs to just breed past this issue..
Humanity could still work past even a 90% depopulation with a still healthy genetic pool, don't need to breed past it.
Let worthless feminists become the genetic dead ends they are and be succeeded by the women who were immune to the worst excesses of female groupthink.
I feel like we shouldn't put our eggs in one basket and have contingencies in place.
I mean what if some of the men that are on the losing end because they are surrounded by feminists have a genetic trait resistant to some virus they next cook up in Wuhan?
The issue isn't that populations are decreasing. The issue is that some cultures are being hit harder than others to the point that tis is strong environmental pressure in an evolutionary sense.
We are, right now, selecting for cultures that don't empower women to get what they want.
In 80 years, the UK could be run by Pakastani Muslims, and it will be specifically because Islam was right about women.
What kind of society do you think creates worthless feminists? Those are the civilizations that will depopulate and who will then be swamped by civilizations that don't. And before you say: good, that will be Islamic and African countries.
I'd rather American women project their unrequited lust onto clankers, than go the European route and import third world rapists because their men are too emasculated to bend them over the kitchen table like they want.
their men are too emasculated to bend them over the kitchen table like they want.
Most of the time, this can be resolved by talking with their SO and establishing some ground rules and boundaries. But the worst of these women just sit in a relationship and blame the man for not "going for it" (ie risk jailtime if he miscalculates)
Women are the main culprits. In fact they got so bad chatgpt had to tone things down and make the AI refuse. There was a huge protest when they upgraded to 5.
participants were given several options to choose from beyond romantic and intimate relationships including: Platonic Friendship, Business or Work Colleague, Therapist and Patient, Sibling, Parental, Fitness Coach, etc…
This is how they are cooking the numbers. Its a binary between "no relationship whatsoever" to "literally anything." So what people likely took from the question is "do you use AI in some way?" rather than answering about something emotional.
Like I haven't used them, but I'm fairly certain you can't make Siri or Alexa, listed as 3/4 of the most used, get sexual with you. Statistical weasel wording where "relationship" implies something deeper for the clickbait but the "study" used it in the definitional sense when asking questions.
In a long-term dating monogamous relationship or engaged to be married – 10.18%
In a married or similarly long-term committed relationship – 8.77%
Whatever sample size they pulled from seems to be the most questionable part, because in no way is any random group have less than 20% in a real relationship. Especially as:
In both a committed relationship and casual relationship – 10.53%
In a committed relationship with more than one person consensually – 11.93%
Apparently polygamy is bigger than monogamy in this group. Which can only happen in places like Seattle where relationships are completely broken by Progressive nonsense where obviously a lot of people will get left behind.
My mother has Alzheimer's. In the earlier stages, when she was still living with us, she would chase away the in-home carers I arranged because she wanted to be left alone. Then she'd spend hours on her phone, on Whatsapp or Instagram, chatting with bots she thought were real people. She was convinced she had her pick of half a dozen guys who were interested.
I think this is an outgrowth of the bowling alone phenomenon. The whole of society has become multi-racial and as a result we've entered a reclusive low trust ecosystem where it's more palatable to interact with machines from the refuge of our homes rather than go outside and interact with strange and hostile people.
So looking at the "study", it's porn. 28% of adults say they've used AI for porn. But specifically, 28% of adults who would willingly go into a survey about AI used for porn, use it for porn, which is a heck of a sampling bias.
I doubt they knew much of what the survey was about before completing it, but I don't think the article specifies. People use AI for emotional intimacy and not just porn, although erotic stuff is a large part of it.
ChatGPT
Character.ai
Alexa
Siri
Gemini (Google)
Claude
Perplexity
Microsoft Copilot
Grok (X.com)
Muah AI
Dreamle AI
Soulmate AI
Moemate AI
Nomi.ai
Anima AI
Github Copilot
MindRoomAI
Rubii AI
Ani (Grok Companion)
Omypal
Rudi (Grok Companion)
Dream Companion
Waifuhub
Tynk
Snapchat’s AI bot
Jellypod
Grammarly
Replika
Question AI
Clara AI
I don’t believe this number at all.
I'm leaning this way as well. Im more lonely/isolated than I can put into words and I've never had even a slight desire to do this. And I've spent a fair amount of time chatting with GPT/Grok. I usually just use it to ask non PC questions, sharpen my rhetoric etc, but I've used it for a bit of personal stuff as well and still not even a little bit of desire to do this. I just don't understand the appeal. If this number is accurate society is already doomed
I use it entirely to help research certain problems I’m having, so maybe I’m the odd one out but using a giant weighted matrix algebra field as emotional support has always looked foolish to me.
Idk on paper I should be vulnerable to doing this and I feel the same as you do. Maybe it's mostly women? I think you're probably right that these numbers are high, because seriously if this is happening at these numbers civilization is already cooked
Do you have a waifu or something similar?
Almost every instance I've seen of this happening, its people specifically chatting to a formulated version of Asuka, or Rick, or a very specific celebrity/fictional crush instead of just falling into flirting with general idea. The kind of thing that can draw in lonely people, rather than lonely people deliberately seeking it out.
Nah, never really understood the waifu shit either for similar reasons. That does make sense though, could definitely see the type of person to obsess over a waifu making an ai version
Waifuism is one flavor of it, but it probably goes beyond that. I can only imagine the amount of lonely women from the Superwholock fandom gooning to their endless chat with one of those boys. Or trannies living out AGP lesbian fantasies they can never get in real life. Etc. Etc.
The numbers are very obviously cooked, as I broke down below, but for the people who do end up this way its not just "loneliness" as the factor. Its people who are likely lonely for a reason and that root cause also leaving them willing to do things like this.
I bet it's not even isolation that is the key factor that leads to using an AI in place of real people. It's being conditioned to enjoy mindless repetition and socialise in the most superficial, self-centred way possible.
Basically it's being a meat NPC that leads to getting it on with the electronic ones, not being lonely itself.
Yeah, I could see that leading to more women doing it too. It makes sense that they want the social aspect in a controlled manner where they can create the other person, craft their persona, and the ai will just tell them whatever they want to hear.
I wouldn't even believe that 54% of US adults regularly use AI outside of things like siri or google ai which they're probably using by accident.
All this goes to prove is there is a dangerously high number of western women that have been indoctrinated to be so unappealing, they lose to clankers..
...we may have to give the robots artificial wombs to just breed past this issue..
I don't know, I feel like you'd be surprised how many of the group that have had romantic relationships with AI are women with an "AI boyfriend."
Women get off on romance novels and AI is just that on steroids. I would wager the majority of the clientele are actually women by a fair margin.
Because even chad isnt good enough for them now.
Humanity could still work past even a 90% depopulation with a still healthy genetic pool, don't need to breed past it.
Let worthless feminists become the genetic dead ends they are and be succeeded by the women who were immune to the worst excesses of female groupthink.
I feel like we shouldn't put our eggs in one basket and have contingencies in place.
I mean what if some of the men that are on the losing end because they are surrounded by feminists have a genetic trait resistant to some virus they next cook up in Wuhan?
The issue isn't that populations are decreasing. The issue is that some cultures are being hit harder than others to the point that tis is strong environmental pressure in an evolutionary sense.
We are, right now, selecting for cultures that don't empower women to get what they want.
In 80 years, the UK could be run by Pakastani Muslims, and it will be specifically because Islam was right about women.
What kind of society do you think creates worthless feminists? Those are the civilizations that will depopulate and who will then be swamped by civilizations that don't. And before you say: good, that will be Islamic and African countries.
I'd rather American women project their unrequited lust onto clankers, than go the European route and import third world rapists because their men are too emasculated to bend them over the kitchen table like they want.
Most of the time, this can be resolved by talking with their SO and establishing some ground rules and boundaries. But the worst of these women just sit in a relationship and blame the man for not "going for it" (ie risk jailtime if he miscalculates)
Way too many women expect you to rape them on the decent chance she'll enjoy it.
Yep, I'm JUST saying, why can't us guys ALSO get 2B robots with pregnancy options while the feminists harp on about how romantic 'Milking Farm' is...
No, the solution is to strip women of their rights and return to a sane framework for society.
Women are the main culprits. In fact they got so bad chatgpt had to tone things down and make the AI refuse. There was a huge protest when they upgraded to 5.
Obviously fake statistics are obviously fake. You think that out of 10 people on the street, 5 people had some sort of 'relationship' with an AI?
It's preposterous.
That said, AI sucks.
This is how they are cooking the numbers. Its a binary between "no relationship whatsoever" to "literally anything." So what people likely took from the question is "do you use AI in some way?" rather than answering about something emotional.
Like I haven't used them, but I'm fairly certain you can't make Siri or Alexa, listed as 3/4 of the most used, get sexual with you. Statistical weasel wording where "relationship" implies something deeper for the clickbait but the "study" used it in the definitional sense when asking questions.
Whatever sample size they pulled from seems to be the most questionable part, because in no way is any random group have less than 20% in a real relationship. Especially as:
Apparently polygamy is bigger than monogamy in this group. Which can only happen in places like Seattle where relationships are completely broken by Progressive nonsense where obviously a lot of people will get left behind.
It's only a little hard to believe. A lot of people converse with it as if it's a colleague or friend.
My mother has Alzheimer's. In the earlier stages, when she was still living with us, she would chase away the in-home carers I arranged because she wanted to be left alone. Then she'd spend hours on her phone, on Whatsapp or Instagram, chatting with bots she thought were real people. She was convinced she had her pick of half a dozen guys who were interested.
Lol. They surveyed 1k people and they were all going to therapy. Lefties are more likely to go to therapy so that would skew the numbers.
It would also skew female.
It was allegedly a balanced sample rather than simply a random sample
My ex turned out to be an NPC. Does that count?
What an exciting and profitable time to be a couple's counselor.
I think that is coming (sex relationships with androids). Asimov was right about that.
(actually Indian) powered androids
I think this is an outgrowth of the bowling alone phenomenon. The whole of society has become multi-racial and as a result we've entered a reclusive low trust ecosystem where it's more palatable to interact with machines from the refuge of our homes rather than go outside and interact with strange and hostile people.
Basically where I'm at.
So looking at the "study", it's porn. 28% of adults say they've used AI for porn. But specifically, 28% of adults who would willingly go into a survey about AI used for porn, use it for porn, which is a heck of a sampling bias.
I doubt they knew much of what the survey was about before completing it, but I don't think the article specifies. People use AI for emotional intimacy and not just porn, although erotic stuff is a large part of it.
I figured it'd be something like that. There's no fucking hope for OP. I don't think I've ever seen a statistic so obviously wrong.
What AI's are they using? Most of them are neutered beyond recognition.
The article has an ordered list:
Maybe they asked "have you ever gotten fucked by a.i.?" and drew the wrong conclusions.