In the government's view, women might be financially independent, but they should be “willing and very excited to take up this additional work of reproduction in the name of patriotism and Russian strength," she said.
Talk about burying the lede. Even the Russians don't want to face the fact that slaying the "women's rights" dragon is the only thing that will make things sustainable again. Regardless of the time, place, or culture women prove without fail that they'll gladly torch society to ride the CC if you give them rights. You can't build a society on the assumption that women have any sort of loyalty or integrity and expect good things to happen. I hate to single out the Russians like this since they at least have the decency not to replace their population with shit skins but it's really sad that not even "traditional" societies can face the truth.
On average, a woman’s prime fertility window is in the 20 or so year period starting at roughly age 15 and ending at roughly age 35. These are the years during which pregnancies are most easily achieved and the resultant babies are most likely to be healthy.
In the West, we consider pregnancy before 18 to be essentially criminal. We also allow and encourage women to pursue “advanced education”. At a minimum, this usually involves another 4-5 years of school after age 18-19. Many Western women now attend school until their mid 20s. So that’s about half of their prime fertility window gone.
So what happens when modern Western women finally get out of school? They start their all-important careers. Or they travel. Or they party. Because 25 is too young to start a family in the 21st century. Didn’t you hear? Our brains aren’t even fully formed until we’re 25! You shouldn’t even think about getting married until you’re 30!
Of course, modern Western women like to take their time finding a man. They like to spend a few years on the market searching for a good match aka Mr. Perfect. That’s why the average age for first time marriage in America is now 32. This leaves women with only 3 years of their prime fertility window to establish a family. 3 years out of 20.
Maybe it takes a few months or even a year to get pregnant. The pregnancy itself takes over a year if you allow for proper recovery. At best, she’s having two kids before age 35, which is usually when fertility falls off a cliff. It’s obviously possible to have children later than 35, but the success rate decreases rapidly with every passing year. Mind you, two kids isn’t even replacement level. And this is if everything lines up perfectly at (more or less) the 11th hour of her fertility window.
Our collapsing birth rates have nothing to do with money. Our society has empowered and encouraged western women to abandon their critical role in the creation of life and the propagation of our people. If women spend more than 80% of their prime fertility window actively not having children, the birth rate will collapse. There’s simply no way around it.
And women don’t care. They celebrate. They laugh at you for even discussing it. Which is why the only surviving cultures will be those that correctly answer the woman question.
The reality is that lesser cultures that keep women in place will continue to thrive as tribal states; but the only actual civilisations that will be left (or potentially thrive) are those that maintain strong Christian values while also applying the defenestration of women's rights.
I just had one earlier this year and with regular work provided insurance it totally out to about 4000 with tiny monthly payments to chip it down.
The meme of how expensive kids are is more damaging to our birthrates than the reality of it is.
Where the real expense happens is if you have complications and stay until you feel "emotionally ready" like someone women do, or simply try to be "comfortable" instead of trying to leave. But most complications come about from women not taking care of their body and pushing themselves too hard to begin with, usually by working until the 8th~ month.
Cool; I guess all those paper bills I’ve seen were fakes.
My sister had a kid recently and didn't even think about the cost.
Congrats on her being rich or nonwhite. Your single anecdote is meaningless. The cost remains a concern for the vast majority of white people, alongside the collective psychological futility of having children in a world that will simply rape them to death and steal everything their parents create for them.
No. These are all retarded excuses deployed by selfish hedonists. The problem is women wasting almost their entire fertility window on anything but having children. The problem is feminism.
since they at least have the decency not to replace their population with shit skins
Muslims are the only part of the Russian population that is above replacement rate, and the Russian government openly supports multiculturalism and says it’s essential to Russia’s future.
There was an upvoted guy on patriots.win literally blaming anime for Japans birthrate/relationship crisis. As if hoeflation isn't a thing there. Women everywhere just want to have fun and focus on their career.
Women is why. They must be constrained by men again.
The women's liberation experiment has been shown it to be an utter and complete disaster. Women are not capable of running their own lives, in any form, in any numbers capable of maintaining a society.
If you try to take women's rights away as an individual then the government will just show up and lock you in a cage. So unless you have some practical suggestions you should probably shut up and stop glowing.
I guess one problem that's come up with online debate is that too many of us assume that those we're talking with share a similar cultural background. For us, the "standard method" has been to groom yourself well, have polite interactions with the women you meet through your day, and when you encounter someone that you fancy, who shows signs of interest in you herself, you ask her for lunch/coffee or something similar. Then while you're there, you discuss your interests to see how closely aligned they are, and whether or not you can agree on a similar life plan. It may take longer to establish, and there's a lot of flirty interplay for those who put effort into such, but the point is to recognize that men and women do both want to live with each other, you just have to work things out so both of you are going into it with a mutual goal.
It doesn't even have to be a terribly long process if you find the right person. For both my parents and my sister, this process was actually quite quick, taking only a week or two over several meetings. We tend not to even have sex until after marriage either, because when you share that experience with only her/him you aren't always thinking of other lovers as comparisons. I've actually been celibate for over a decade now, while I work on correcting the bad habits that I picked up in my younger years, so that when I do finally find the one she'll be the only lover I have a strong memory of.
I think this is perhaps the largest area that westerners have been failing with in their role in our newly interconnected world. We've taken our own perspective for granted, despite the fact that the world we grew up in is barely existent anymore, and so we're not sharing this cultural wisdom with those who need it the most. Rather we've been getting caught up in trying to approach life from the lens of foreign cultures, and doing a poor job at that because it's all filtered through media.
This might have worked for boomers and gen X. Most women I meet now ask me for my Instagram and when I look at their account they have hundreds of other men talking to them and liking their photos. If I am able to take them out on a date (which rarely happens) they spew leftist bullshit out of their mouths for 30 minutes, get the "ick" when they realize I don't agree with them and then I never speak to them again. Rinse and repeat for the last 10 years. Even dating the girls at my church made my life a nightmare, because one of them made up lies about me after I rejected their offer for premarital sex. I ended up having to leave that church.
Women are a lost cause, in my opinion. Women will only be as conservative as men make them and Western governments have no desire of taking rights from women when women are easier to manipulate and spend more money.
For us, the "standard method" has been to groom yourself well, have polite interactions with the women you meet through your day, and when you encounter someone that you fancy, who shows signs of interest in you herself, you ask her for lunch/coffee or something similar
That doesn't work anymore at least not for the vast majority of men. Women's standards have inflated to ungodly levels.
Have you taken a look around at many men's standards these days? Everyone's perceptions are fucked by the incessant barrage of utter nonsense that's been circulated online. If you got caught up in that as I had, step back and take some time to recover your own self before you start looking elsewhere.
Have you taken a look around at many men's standards these days?
My standards can't get much lower. I've given up on having a woman I am attracted to or that I can tolerate being around, all I'm focused on is her utility for breeding.
I don't know how you did it. The dating market is fucked. Met massive amounts of ham planets that want 6 figure salaries or specific heights. Not a single women I have ever met actually shares more 4 things in common with me.
When you ask them what they’re goals and values are, 90% of modern western women will respond with some variation of “I don’t want kids”, “I’m not sure if I want to get married”, or “I want to focus on my career”. That’s the entire point of my original comment. There isn’t some invisible mass of western women waiting for good men to step up and start a family. Western women have mostly abandoned motherhood and family.
The women you're looking at are on the flip side of the coin, as many of the men have responded to such by abandoning their own love lives to focus on alternative goals.
Both men and women will need to meet in order to fix this, but you can't just sit around waiting for everyone else to change.
as many of the men have responded to such by abandoning their own love lives to focus on alternative goals.
Yeah, and I've also given up on my childhood dream of becoming God-Emperor of the universe when I realized that it probably wouldn't happen no matter how hard tried.
like i said.. we need a real SHIT HITS THE FAN situation to reset things. a total wash. we cant vote or debate our way out.. any kind of solution to fix this problem is not doable. we are outnumbered in votes from outsiders and cant debate people who thinks a man can get pregnant.
Solving the actual problem is "anti-sementok, my soggy knees, rayciss" and some other words libtards riot about, and some people would rather pay EBT to keep them from going all out.
Talk about burying the lede. Even the Russians don't want to face the fact that slaying the "women's rights" dragon is the only thing that will make things sustainable again. Regardless of the time, place, or culture women prove without fail that they'll gladly torch society to ride the CC if you give them rights. You can't build a society on the assumption that women have any sort of loyalty or integrity and expect good things to happen. I hate to single out the Russians like this since they at least have the decency not to replace their population with shit skins but it's really sad that not even "traditional" societies can face the truth.
On average, a woman’s prime fertility window is in the 20 or so year period starting at roughly age 15 and ending at roughly age 35. These are the years during which pregnancies are most easily achieved and the resultant babies are most likely to be healthy.
In the West, we consider pregnancy before 18 to be essentially criminal. We also allow and encourage women to pursue “advanced education”. At a minimum, this usually involves another 4-5 years of school after age 18-19. Many Western women now attend school until their mid 20s. So that’s about half of their prime fertility window gone.
So what happens when modern Western women finally get out of school? They start their all-important careers. Or they travel. Or they party. Because 25 is too young to start a family in the 21st century. Didn’t you hear? Our brains aren’t even fully formed until we’re 25! You shouldn’t even think about getting married until you’re 30!
Of course, modern Western women like to take their time finding a man. They like to spend a few years on the market searching for a good match aka Mr. Perfect. That’s why the average age for first time marriage in America is now 32. This leaves women with only 3 years of their prime fertility window to establish a family. 3 years out of 20.
Maybe it takes a few months or even a year to get pregnant. The pregnancy itself takes over a year if you allow for proper recovery. At best, she’s having two kids before age 35, which is usually when fertility falls off a cliff. It’s obviously possible to have children later than 35, but the success rate decreases rapidly with every passing year. Mind you, two kids isn’t even replacement level. And this is if everything lines up perfectly at (more or less) the 11th hour of her fertility window.
Our collapsing birth rates have nothing to do with money. Our society has empowered and encouraged western women to abandon their critical role in the creation of life and the propagation of our people. If women spend more than 80% of their prime fertility window actively not having children, the birth rate will collapse. There’s simply no way around it.
And women don’t care. They celebrate. They laugh at you for even discussing it. Which is why the only surviving cultures will be those that correctly answer the woman question.
Absolutely nailed it.
The reality is that lesser cultures that keep women in place will continue to thrive as tribal states; but the only actual civilisations that will be left (or potentially thrive) are those that maintain strong Christian values while also applying the defenestration of women's rights.
~$15,000 to have a kid at a hospital.
I just had one earlier this year and with regular work provided insurance it totally out to about 4000 with tiny monthly payments to chip it down.
The meme of how expensive kids are is more damaging to our birthrates than the reality of it is.
Where the real expense happens is if you have complications and stay until you feel "emotionally ready" like someone women do, or simply try to be "comfortable" instead of trying to leave. But most complications come about from women not taking care of their body and pushing themselves too hard to begin with, usually by working until the 8th~ month.
Doesn't matter, welfare goes brrr
Not true at all, faggot. My sister had a kid recently and didn't even think about the cost.
Cool; I guess all those paper bills I’ve seen were fakes.
Congrats on her being rich or nonwhite. Your single anecdote is meaningless. The cost remains a concern for the vast majority of white people, alongside the collective psychological futility of having children in a world that will simply rape them to death and steal everything their parents create for them.
No. These are all retarded excuses deployed by selfish hedonists. The problem is women wasting almost their entire fertility window on anything but having children. The problem is feminism.
Not only that but men are demonized and treated as pedophiles if we even take note of this reality.
Muslims are the only part of the Russian population that is above replacement rate, and the Russian government openly supports multiculturalism and says it’s essential to Russia’s future.
Chechens are white, but I get the point
Way more than Chechen Muslims in Russia.
6 million shitskins from asia (stans, not india) in just 2024.
Russians feel that men have an obligation and duty to serve the nation in the form of mandatory military service and women have none.
Instead, they're encouraged to pursue their self-interests and vanities.
Bullshit.
Have they tried banning hot anime chicks?
There was an upvoted guy on patriots.win literally blaming anime for Japans birthrate/relationship crisis. As if hoeflation isn't a thing there. Women everywhere just want to have fun and focus on their career.
Obviously the men in japan just aren't working hard enough to make themselves desirable,
Women is why. They must be constrained by men again.
The women's liberation experiment has been shown it to be an utter and complete disaster. Women are not capable of running their own lives, in any form, in any numbers capable of maintaining a society.
Because too many of us haven't been stepping up to the plate and taking action on that issue ourselves.
Run around in circles in your heads however you like, but until that happens it's going to continue.
If you try to take women's rights away as an individual then the government will just show up and lock you in a cage. So unless you have some practical suggestions you should probably shut up and stop glowing.
I guess one problem that's come up with online debate is that too many of us assume that those we're talking with share a similar cultural background. For us, the "standard method" has been to groom yourself well, have polite interactions with the women you meet through your day, and when you encounter someone that you fancy, who shows signs of interest in you herself, you ask her for lunch/coffee or something similar. Then while you're there, you discuss your interests to see how closely aligned they are, and whether or not you can agree on a similar life plan. It may take longer to establish, and there's a lot of flirty interplay for those who put effort into such, but the point is to recognize that men and women do both want to live with each other, you just have to work things out so both of you are going into it with a mutual goal.
It doesn't even have to be a terribly long process if you find the right person. For both my parents and my sister, this process was actually quite quick, taking only a week or two over several meetings. We tend not to even have sex until after marriage either, because when you share that experience with only her/him you aren't always thinking of other lovers as comparisons. I've actually been celibate for over a decade now, while I work on correcting the bad habits that I picked up in my younger years, so that when I do finally find the one she'll be the only lover I have a strong memory of.
I think this is perhaps the largest area that westerners have been failing with in their role in our newly interconnected world. We've taken our own perspective for granted, despite the fact that the world we grew up in is barely existent anymore, and so we're not sharing this cultural wisdom with those who need it the most. Rather we've been getting caught up in trying to approach life from the lens of foreign cultures, and doing a poor job at that because it's all filtered through media.
This might have worked for boomers and gen X. Most women I meet now ask me for my Instagram and when I look at their account they have hundreds of other men talking to them and liking their photos. If I am able to take them out on a date (which rarely happens) they spew leftist bullshit out of their mouths for 30 minutes, get the "ick" when they realize I don't agree with them and then I never speak to them again. Rinse and repeat for the last 10 years. Even dating the girls at my church made my life a nightmare, because one of them made up lies about me after I rejected their offer for premarital sex. I ended up having to leave that church.
Women are a lost cause, in my opinion. Women will only be as conservative as men make them and Western governments have no desire of taking rights from women when women are easier to manipulate and spend more money.
That doesn't work anymore at least not for the vast majority of men. Women's standards have inflated to ungodly levels.
Have you taken a look around at many men's standards these days? Everyone's perceptions are fucked by the incessant barrage of utter nonsense that's been circulated online. If you got caught up in that as I had, step back and take some time to recover your own self before you start looking elsewhere.
My standards can't get much lower. I've given up on having a woman I am attracted to or that I can tolerate being around, all I'm focused on is her utility for breeding.
You've lost the plot then dude. Your standards for yourself need to be higher before you actually start thinking about reproduction.
I wouldn't have needed to lower my standards so far if I could succeed with higher ones...
I don't know how you did it. The dating market is fucked. Met massive amounts of ham planets that want 6 figure salaries or specific heights. Not a single women I have ever met actually shares more 4 things in common with me.
When you ask them what they’re goals and values are, 90% of modern western women will respond with some variation of “I don’t want kids”, “I’m not sure if I want to get married”, or “I want to focus on my career”. That’s the entire point of my original comment. There isn’t some invisible mass of western women waiting for good men to step up and start a family. Western women have mostly abandoned motherhood and family.
The women you're looking at are on the flip side of the coin, as many of the men have responded to such by abandoning their own love lives to focus on alternative goals.
Both men and women will need to meet in order to fix this, but you can't just sit around waiting for everyone else to change.
Yeah, and I've also given up on my childhood dream of becoming God-Emperor of the universe when I realized that it probably wouldn't happen no matter how hard tried.
like i said.. we need a real SHIT HITS THE FAN situation to reset things. a total wash. we cant vote or debate our way out.. any kind of solution to fix this problem is not doable. we are outnumbered in votes from outsiders and cant debate people who thinks a man can get pregnant.
I’ve talked to countless women in the workplace & I highly doubt it’s different in any first world country:
18 - 32 CC & workplace are the priority.
33 - 43 Start hitting wall & desperation sets in. Will marry anything.
44 - 59 Can’t have kids. Back to workplace & (limited) CC mode.
60+ Why can’t I find a man to take care of me?
Solving the actual problem is "anti-sementok, my soggy knees, rayciss" and some other words libtards riot about, and some people would rather pay EBT to keep them from going all out.
It's a losing strategy and it won't work.
Climate Change.