My kid thinks not being able to eat ice cream every day is unfair. He's entitled to that opinion, but keeping that from happening is my job for sure.
Zionists can be entitled to their stupid desire. But actually letting it happen is the even stupider concession generations before us decided to allow.
I'd agree, with a caveat: Zionism doesn't really have a specific meaning.
"I think Israel has a right to defend itself" Zionists are at least reasonable. Even if I disagree that creating Israel in the first place was a moral thing to do, and even if it was founded by an ethnic Jewish criminal mafia, the people living there today have a right to defend themselves. With the amount of propaganda surrounding Israel that we are steeped in, it's completely unsurprising to me that some people are more sympathetic to them than they deserve.
That said, the "I think Israel has the right to run the world and ethnically cleanse their neighbors and everybody must defend Israel and any criticism of Israel is basically another holocaust of anti Semitism" Zionists are insane. And they're clearly the ones that are currently in control of most of our elected government.
They don't defend themselves. The Palestinians defend themselves. The Israelis have been slowly ethnically cleansing them since the beginning while regularly attacking every single one of their neighbors.
You can be the attacker in one scenario and the defender in another. They're not mutually exclusive.
The Palestinians are rabid animals that can't fit in any decent society and you will never see me cry about their extermination, but the Israelis are subversive, power-hungry, corrupting, greedy, infiltrating rats that are not limited to their own borders. Israelis are a direct threat to the West, with how much influence and political power they've managed to gain through bribery and nepotism, whereas the Palestinians are just primitive savages that are unlikely to ever involve themselves with the farther corners of the world, unless they are forced to do so by a greater force displacing them.
I have no obligation to support either side, and I can speak frankly about both.
Rabid animals that don't fit in any decent society, and their the defenders?
By your own concept, how would you call them "defenders" if you see them as wolves? You're breaking up your own argument, and this nonsense is why I don't ever take alt-right rhetoric that explicitly mirrors Communists, seriously. That assumes I'm not just actively talking to a Communist who's larping because in his words, "the lie is fine as long as it serves a tactical purpose".
I know you're not stupid so the only other explanations I have for why you'd be so obtuse on this subject is that it's either deliberate deception or some desperate attempt to believe that, while you're stuck in here with everyone else, at least you're better than everyone else here.
So you're either lying to us or you're lying to yourself. Or both.
I on the other hand have an idea about why you are hurling yourself into the defense of someone else's argument, and it's not about being obtuse.
There's nothing obtuse about my argumentation, and in this specific case, it's extremely specific. From the White Socialist perspective, genocides are moral. End of. Superior races must make room for development against inferior ones. If jews and palestras are uncivilized savages, than it's no different from a city engineer being warned that in the neighboring woods bears and wolves are fighting. It means less than nothing.
Instead, what we see, over and over again, is explicitly Leftist arguments that are directed at Liberals to condemn Genocide, Colonization, and Apartheid. Fucking no one is willing to stand and answer on why National Socialists are copying Communist arguments, directed towards Liberals, in the Dissident Right. It makes no sense, unless you're a Leftist and this is just the standard line you're used to giving and hoping some retard actually buys it. And they should, because all Leftist arguments are functionally the same, and they have no complaints about genocide either.
You're an idiot, trying to nitpick on a "gotcha" that isn't there and that didn't land. You did not successfully contradict anything I said.
They're too uncivilized to integrate themselves peacefully in other societies, but they can still live in their own. They are allowed to defend their own corner of the world, which is being invaded by a foreign force, even if I wouldn't want them anywhere near me. There is no contradiction here.
And they are not a direct threat to us (unlike Israel currently is), unless they end up being displaced (also because of Israel) as refugees, and end up moving here in the West, where they will (rightfully) resent us for supporting the destruction of their country.
There is no gotcha. You have no fucking standard beyond "kill some jew". Like I said before, I'm not even seeing actual racism. Just Larping like someone who thinks they know how a National Socialist rhetoric would work.
They're too uncivilized to integrate themselves peacefully in other societies, but they can still live in their own
By your own definition, they can live like a pack of wolves and be a threat to everyone the moment they start to stray, which they will always do, because of their violent and predatory nature. There is no such thing as ultra-low-IQ human predators what will just always keep in peaceful societies to themselves when you don't think they are genetically capable of peace. By your standard, and Israeli genocide is moral, yet you insist on crying about genocides like you're appealing to a Liberal.
And they are not a direct threat to us (unlike Israel currently is), unless they end up being displaced (also because of Israel) as refugees, and end up moving here in the West, where they will (rightfully) resent us for supporting the destruction of their country.
You pretend like the mass Leftist, pro-Gaza, rioting isn't normal across the west. Milan is under siege by Communists supporting Palestine right now. The UK parliament was under siege for similar reasons last year. Islamists keep raping and stabbing kids in the UK. The spread of Islam in the US is continuing and Dearborne is a captured city where the mayor just threatened a white person for objecting to naming a city street after a journalist that openly advocated for terrorism and demographic replacement in Michigan.
You act like only Israel is advocating for importing Palestinians, when the entirety of the political Left is demanding it, regardless of Israel's position, explicitly because it will support further internal destabalization.
Your reductive 'joo man bad' short-sightedness is either from a shocking level of stupidity that you can't even maintain your own principled position; or you are simply shilling for Palestine.
I can't, Hamas & Hezbollah normally kill them and/or purge them regardless of what Israel does.
You should at least make up believable lies. Christians are part of Hezbollah and in Gaza Christians have lived safer under Muslim rule than they have under Jewish rule.
Zionism, Fascism, and Liberalism have all been bastardized by Leftists themselves to the point where they reflect none of the definitions that they are based off of in vernacular use.
For Zionism, the term basically means "Israel as a country can exist". This is like saying Feminism means "believing that women are human", or that Communism is "believing that people should share".
Most Americans calling themselves Zionists are calling themselves Zionists based on this concept. They don't really even acknowledge that Zionism has a history.
Reminds me of Innokenty Smolin, the only known high-ranking Jew to fight against the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War, and who by all accounts was one of the most competent & loyal officers in the service of the White leader Admiral Kolchak. Or the one Jew known to have fought on the Nationalist side in the Spanish Civil War, Emmanuel Rudolph Vischer (unfortunately unlike Smolin he got killed very early on, in the first year of the war, and probably by one of the many more Jews fighting for the Republican enemy).
Seems as though in every great generational sociopolitical struggle, you can still find at least one Jew who isn't a piece of shit. And I did like the combative tone of Miller's speech, draws the hard line between those who build civilizations & those who know nothing but to corrupt and destroy very firmly with zero ambiguity, and certainly promising nothing but bad things for the latter. That & Trump's 'I don't want the best for my enemies' line are exactly the tone the right should be striking in the wake of this assassination.
Pussyfoot Christians all around are claiming it was satanic and evil that all the speakers didn't tow the head bowing line of "I forgive the assassin and all the leftoids who want me dead"
Well, of course the Church of Nice™ would do that, fuck them. I did like the immediate contrast between Kirk's widow Erika saying she forgave the assassin and Trump bluntly stating he hates his enemies & doesn't wish the best for them though. These concepts have been long-lost in translation between the ages, but Christian thought used to draw firm distinctions between forgiveness (which is for the wronged party, that they might move on with their lives without vengeance consuming them); mercy (which is for the guilty party and only to be dispensed under certain circumstances, not unconditionally); and justice (which must be administered before mercy can even be considered).
The widow forgave her husband's killer, fine, that's her personal decision. But the state, here represented by Trump, still has the responsibility of administering justice regardless of her personal feelings. And the only mercy Robinson deserves for the crime of murdering a man who had done him no wrong save spouting opinions to the right of Mao, in the exceedingly unlikely event that he were to repent, is a quick death rather than a slow and torturous one. I don't think it was intentional, but it was also a symbolic moment IMO when the grieving widow - after all her words of forgiveness - still ended up leaning on the man who symbolized the sword of lawful authority & had expressed his determination to seek unforgiving justice.
There is no standard of saying or not saying things that you can meet that will convince one of these kinds of guys that you're not "Israel First" once they decide you are, and any attempt you make to try to correct them will only make them angrier and more obsessive.
We are going to see more jews "coming out" against zionism in the near future, because they want to maintain control of the American right. Only time will tell if that tactic will work, or if enough people have snapped out of their stupor.
I care. Zionism is THE biggest issue we have. If he would renounce that dumb shit I would buy a tshirt from him.
My kid thinks not being able to eat ice cream every day is unfair. He's entitled to that opinion, but keeping that from happening is my job for sure.
Zionists can be entitled to their stupid desire. But actually letting it happen is the even stupider concession generations before us decided to allow.
An Jew is an Jew and his loyalty will always be with the tribe
I'd agree, with a caveat: Zionism doesn't really have a specific meaning.
"I think Israel has a right to defend itself" Zionists are at least reasonable. Even if I disagree that creating Israel in the first place was a moral thing to do, and even if it was founded by an ethnic Jewish criminal mafia, the people living there today have a right to defend themselves. With the amount of propaganda surrounding Israel that we are steeped in, it's completely unsurprising to me that some people are more sympathetic to them than they deserve.
That said, the "I think Israel has the right to run the world and ethnically cleanse their neighbors and everybody must defend Israel and any criticism of Israel is basically another holocaust of anti Semitism" Zionists are insane. And they're clearly the ones that are currently in control of most of our elected government.
They don't defend themselves. The Palestinians defend themselves. The Israelis have been slowly ethnically cleansing them since the beginning while regularly attacking every single one of their neighbors.
Again, only Leftist narratives from the White Socialist brigade.
Tell Lebanese Christians that the Palestinians defend themselves.
You can be the attacker in one scenario and the defender in another. They're not mutually exclusive.
The Palestinians are rabid animals that can't fit in any decent society and you will never see me cry about their extermination, but the Israelis are subversive, power-hungry, corrupting, greedy, infiltrating rats that are not limited to their own borders. Israelis are a direct threat to the West, with how much influence and political power they've managed to gain through bribery and nepotism, whereas the Palestinians are just primitive savages that are unlikely to ever involve themselves with the farther corners of the world, unless they are forced to do so by a greater force displacing them.
I have no obligation to support either side, and I can speak frankly about both.
Rabid animals that don't fit in any decent society, and their the defenders?
By your own concept, how would you call them "defenders" if you see them as wolves? You're breaking up your own argument, and this nonsense is why I don't ever take alt-right rhetoric that explicitly mirrors Communists, seriously. That assumes I'm not just actively talking to a Communist who's larping because in his words, "the lie is fine as long as it serves a tactical purpose".
I know you're not stupid so the only other explanations I have for why you'd be so obtuse on this subject is that it's either deliberate deception or some desperate attempt to believe that, while you're stuck in here with everyone else, at least you're better than everyone else here.
So you're either lying to us or you're lying to yourself. Or both.
I on the other hand have an idea about why you are hurling yourself into the defense of someone else's argument, and it's not about being obtuse.
There's nothing obtuse about my argumentation, and in this specific case, it's extremely specific. From the White Socialist perspective, genocides are moral. End of. Superior races must make room for development against inferior ones. If jews and palestras are uncivilized savages, than it's no different from a city engineer being warned that in the neighboring woods bears and wolves are fighting. It means less than nothing.
Instead, what we see, over and over again, is explicitly Leftist arguments that are directed at Liberals to condemn Genocide, Colonization, and Apartheid. Fucking no one is willing to stand and answer on why National Socialists are copying Communist arguments, directed towards Liberals, in the Dissident Right. It makes no sense, unless you're a Leftist and this is just the standard line you're used to giving and hoping some retard actually buys it. And they should, because all Leftist arguments are functionally the same, and they have no complaints about genocide either.
You're an idiot, trying to nitpick on a "gotcha" that isn't there and that didn't land. You did not successfully contradict anything I said.
They're too uncivilized to integrate themselves peacefully in other societies, but they can still live in their own. They are allowed to defend their own corner of the world, which is being invaded by a foreign force, even if I wouldn't want them anywhere near me. There is no contradiction here.
And they are not a direct threat to us (unlike Israel currently is), unless they end up being displaced (also because of Israel) as refugees, and end up moving here in the West, where they will (rightfully) resent us for supporting the destruction of their country.
There is no gotcha. You have no fucking standard beyond "kill some jew". Like I said before, I'm not even seeing actual racism. Just Larping like someone who thinks they know how a National Socialist rhetoric would work.
By your own definition, they can live like a pack of wolves and be a threat to everyone the moment they start to stray, which they will always do, because of their violent and predatory nature. There is no such thing as ultra-low-IQ human predators what will just always keep in peaceful societies to themselves when you don't think they are genetically capable of peace. By your standard, and Israeli genocide is moral, yet you insist on crying about genocides like you're appealing to a Liberal.
You pretend like the mass Leftist, pro-Gaza, rioting isn't normal across the west. Milan is under siege by Communists supporting Palestine right now. The UK parliament was under siege for similar reasons last year. Islamists keep raping and stabbing kids in the UK. The spread of Islam in the US is continuing and Dearborne is a captured city where the mayor just threatened a white person for objecting to naming a city street after a journalist that openly advocated for terrorism and demographic replacement in Michigan.
You act like only Israel is advocating for importing Palestinians, when the entirety of the political Left is demanding it, regardless of Israel's position, explicitly because it will support further internal destabalization.
Your reductive 'joo man bad' short-sightedness is either from a shocking level of stupidity that you can't even maintain your own principled position; or you are simply shilling for Palestine.
Tell Lebanese and Palestinian Christians that Israel defends itself when it blows up yet another church with them in it.
I can't, Hamas & Hezbollah normally kill them and/or purge them regardless of what Israel does.
But hey, keep defending the honor of noble Islam. That's the only true way to defend the white race!
You should at least make up believable lies. Christians are part of Hezbollah and in Gaza Christians have lived safer under Muslim rule than they have under Jewish rule.
You should at least make up believable lies.
Kufar ring a bell?
Agreed, but put your propagandized lens on.
I think that a person who has bought the propaganda can defend Israel on moral grounds, even if their basis for doing so are, unknown to them, lies.
Zionism, Fascism, and Liberalism have all been bastardized by Leftists themselves to the point where they reflect none of the definitions that they are based off of in vernacular use.
For Zionism, the term basically means "Israel as a country can exist". This is like saying Feminism means "believing that women are human", or that Communism is "believing that people should share".
Most Americans calling themselves Zionists are calling themselves Zionists based on this concept. They don't really even acknowledge that Zionism has a history.
Zionism absolutely has a meaning and it's "nationalism for me not thee, goy."
Reminds me of Innokenty Smolin, the only known high-ranking Jew to fight against the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War, and who by all accounts was one of the most competent & loyal officers in the service of the White leader Admiral Kolchak. Or the one Jew known to have fought on the Nationalist side in the Spanish Civil War, Emmanuel Rudolph Vischer (unfortunately unlike Smolin he got killed very early on, in the first year of the war, and probably by one of the many more Jews fighting for the Republican enemy).
Seems as though in every great generational sociopolitical struggle, you can still find at least one Jew who isn't a piece of shit. And I did like the combative tone of Miller's speech, draws the hard line between those who build civilizations & those who know nothing but to corrupt and destroy very firmly with zero ambiguity, and certainly promising nothing but bad things for the latter. That & Trump's 'I don't want the best for my enemies' line are exactly the tone the right should be striking in the wake of this assassination.
Pussyfoot Christians all around are claiming it was satanic and evil that all the speakers didn't tow the head bowing line of "I forgive the assassin and all the leftoids who want me dead"
Well, of course the Church of Nice™ would do that, fuck them. I did like the immediate contrast between Kirk's widow Erika saying she forgave the assassin and Trump bluntly stating he hates his enemies & doesn't wish the best for them though. These concepts have been long-lost in translation between the ages, but Christian thought used to draw firm distinctions between forgiveness (which is for the wronged party, that they might move on with their lives without vengeance consuming them); mercy (which is for the guilty party and only to be dispensed under certain circumstances, not unconditionally); and justice (which must be administered before mercy can even be considered).
The widow forgave her husband's killer, fine, that's her personal decision. But the state, here represented by Trump, still has the responsibility of administering justice regardless of her personal feelings. And the only mercy Robinson deserves for the crime of murdering a man who had done him no wrong save spouting opinions to the right of Mao, in the exceedingly unlikely event that he were to repent, is a quick death rather than a slow and torturous one. I don't think it was intentional, but it was also a symbolic moment IMO when the grieving widow - after all her words of forgiveness - still ended up leaning on the man who symbolized the sword of lawful authority & had expressed his determination to seek unforgiving justice.
Christians would do well to remember the words executioners engraved on the blades with which they did their necessary duty in history: 'When this sword I do lift, - I wish the sinner eternal life as gift.'
They church of nice is the biggest obstacle to the crusades in modern times.
She was probably visited by those "Community Relations Services", and told that if she did not forgive, her children would be next.
Psalm 139:19-24.
Every general rule has outliers, rare though they may be.
That nit really a good look for Jews in general if so few join not satanic leftist side
Stephen Miller is easily one of the best people in the admin.
The guys who fixate on Miller being Jewish and ignore anything he says are really, really retarded.
Their goal is to destroy the populist right, plain and simple.
Im still convinced hes the guy that runs the ADL with a mask on
As far as I can tell, he hasn't publicly voiced Israel first opinions
By virtue of being jewish he doesn't have to. It is intrinsic to his existence.
There is no standard of saying or not saying things that you can meet that will convince one of these kinds of guys that you're not "Israel First" once they decide you are, and any attempt you make to try to correct them will only make them angrier and more obsessive.
We are going to see more jews "coming out" against zionism in the near future, because they want to maintain control of the American right. Only time will tell if that tactic will work, or if enough people have snapped out of their stupor.
miller is the goodest jew
Still deserve the gas and oven