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Pfizer has been lying to Trump about the vaccine effectiveness. Trump demands they release the information (twitter.com)
posted 300 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 300 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +114 / -0
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– Gizortnik 33 points 300 days ago +33 / -0

President Trump is dead wrong on this:

I have been shown information from Pfizer, and others, that is extraordinary, but they never seem to show those results of the public.

This suggests they just out-and-out lied to him about their own data.

The wildest part about Covid is that Pfizer's research on the 'vaccine' and it's effectiveness are done well and completely reliable. Basically, the initial version of the 'vaccine' was not tested to reduce transmission, because it couldn't. It had no mechanism to do so. They discovered that the injection reduced viral load in the Alpha strain by 30%, and that may have lessened some symptoms (which was the original intent of the injection), but it can't prevent infection, nor can it prevent infecting other people. It never did. It was literally never supposed to.

As for what they are telling Trump, remember that the man who gave the initial casualty figures for Covid to Trump is the same man who lied to Borris Johnson. He claimed that one million people would be dead by December of 2020. In the UK, he said that there would be 500,000 dead by the same period. This same man got caught violating lockdown regulations and traveling to South America to fuck one of his mistresses. This is why Trump said that 250,000 claimed dead by CNN was good news by comparison to what he was told. The study that debunked several years ago.

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– horstshort 32 points 300 days ago +32 / -0

The entire fucking thing was a hoax. From beginning to end. I cannot understand how people still cling to it. Probably because they don't want to admit that they willingly acted like completely insane maniacs.

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– throwawayaccount2037 21 points 300 days ago +21 / -0

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 300 days ago +4 / -0

Yes, that's correct.

No one wants to admit that Andrew Cuomo was directly responsible for killing 43,000 counts of negligent homicide for putting covid patients into nursing homes.

In 2020, we lived in a dictatorship that placed the country under house arrest and spread race riots as a mechanism of pushing itself to power and it wasn't even coming from the White House.

That's a terrifying realization that power wasn't even in the hands of the powerful, but in the hands of an elite that had no objections to wielding insane and unaccountable power, even to the point of murder, with literally no push-back. Even Governor Mike DeWine of Ohio was acting as a petty tyrant, but his statements were so divorced from reality that people just ignored him and his edicts. We were tyrannized, and in some cases murdered, by the most feckless and worthless people on the planet, that you can't respect enough to fear.

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– BandageBandolier 3 points 300 days ago +3 / -0

At this point I care less about the dead boomers than I do the tens of millions of young and middle aged adults who had a huge portion of their life's work and meaning wiped out by that insanity.

It's hard to measure the value of a life, yadda yadda, but it's easier if you keep the units the same. A bunch of old coots who collectively failed as stewards of their nation and culture dropping 5 years earlier than expected pales in comparison to the millions more who had half their life's work and purpose wiped out for no good reason. Not to mention the drop in means, quality of life and medical care caused by the COVID measures means they will also lose at least 5 years off their average life expectancy as well. Just because the final domino will fall years later doesn't make it any less tragic, just easier to miss.

TLDR; fuck the selfish old boomers, they are the least important victims of the COVID hysteria.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 299 days ago +2 / -0

Your excusing of this isn't acceptable, as these were people who literally could not defend themselves and were not only intentionally sickened and killed by the government to make sure the state didn't have to pay out a retirement that they were promised (and was promised to you, your next), but in many cases prisoners were sent to nursing homes that proceeded to beat them to death.

Fuck you very much.

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 299 days ago +1 / -0

Oh no, a younger person's life has more intrinsic value than an old person, what a novel and shocking philosophical concept.

Chill out, I said they were the least important victims, but that implies victims nonetheless. Get off your high horse with that "excusing" the tragedy bullshit, brother I'm ranking them, and they came in dead last.

And I said that because it's true, both in numbers and in magnitude old people shoved in homes were not the biggest victims of the COVID lockdown hysteria.

Sure you can say there were "many" cases of codgers being beaten to death by white hating felons (I only know of one proven case, but I'm willing to accept maybe up to a dozen more stayed under the radar) and lost out on 5-10 years of the experience of being frail and demented. But you're losing sight of the scale of the other tragedies, where tens of thousands of people had their lives cut short in or before their prime, each losing many decades of real, enjoyable life. Often leaving young children and toddlers without parental guidance, not some 40 year olds who can stand on their own feet. And tend of millions more young people have almost certainly now lost those last 5-10 years just like the codgers, those chickens just haven't officially come home to roost yet so everyone's playing dumb. Plus dying is hardly the only negative outcome that matters. Is 50 years of poor health, say from a damaged heart that never recovers, truly a tragedy so easily forgotten just because it doesn't have a big dramatic endpoint? Back in the day the elders would take a long winter walk because they understood that taking away the younger generation's ability to flourish just to cling on to the dregs of life was crueler, and they were honorable enough to back that up.

Nah, I stand by it, Coumo's 40k were the most palatable tip of the iceberg of the victims of the tyranny and corruption around COVID. You're being overly emotional about a simplistic headline with a scary number instead of looking at the whole picture, just like the COVID Karens when they gleefully scolded people for not caring enough about grandpa to give up all your rights.

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– Niemo 2 points 299 days ago +2 / -0

My entire world view was reshaped during the coof lockdowns, as a veil was lifted from my eyes and I realized the depth of compromise that has rotted out through the core of society.

I voted for trump but they changed with his operation warp speed, and I regret ever supporting him, watching him ram through these bioweapons for what? Either personal prestige and ego OR he is completely complicit in the agenda.

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– horstshort 1 point 299 days ago +1 / -0

Boomer retard or establishment puppet. Considering how fanatically he licks Zionist boots I'm thinking the latter.

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– Benevolentdictator 13 points 300 days ago +13 / -0

Basically, the initial version of the 'vaccine' was not tested to reduce transmission

This was definitely retconned.

The infamous partial trial that was used to get EUA approval in Nov 2020 was DEFINITELY designed around "reducing transmission". The whole "milder course/symptom mitigation" claims came after much more contagious strains like Delta & Omicron emerged.

The OG data they published claimed a reduction in transmission by >90%. The problem was that only 1% of the placebo arm actually caught COVID in the summer of 2020 & 0.1% of the jab arm caught it. IOW, 99% of people in the trial never caught/didn't need the jab over the 10 weeks even if their poison was as effective as they claim.

IOW, even with their fake numbers, you'd have to jab a thousand people to stop 9 cases of a cold.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 300 days ago +2 / -0

Oh yes, the EUA approval came with those requirements, and the vaccine failed to meet them, that's why Pfizer is still criminally liable.

The issue is that the data that they released, and was even used on Reddit to show me that it prevented transmission, never did, and never claimed to.

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– 5Cats 14 points 300 days ago +14 / -0

They lied from the beginning. Ever wonder WHY they wanted their research data sealed by a court for 55 years? They knew The Jab was deadly but routinely said the opposite.
They not only got away with it? They all became massively rich off it.

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– ghostfox1_ 6 points 300 days ago +6 / -0

It wasn't even that. The immediate red flag was "no, you racists, there's no way a coronavirus came from the wuhan coronavirus research lab which has had multiple leaks before and which just had stolen samples sent to it from canada"

From that point on, I literally trusted nothing the media said, because it was all lies.

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– 5Cats 2 points 299 days ago +2 / -0

A guy won the Nobel Prize for medicine (or chemistry? I forget) for adapting Ivermectin to be used on humans. Credited with saving hundreds of thousands of lives. "It's horse pills" shouted the media in unison.
Yup! It was all lies, right from the start.

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– ghostfox1_ 14 points 300 days ago +14 / -0

I'm sure we all remember when Trump kept claiming the shots were effective and a great success.

Now that he's realizing how bad he fucked up and backtracking as hard as he can.

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– Socalwackjob 17 points 300 days ago +17 / -0

Is it just me that remember that Trump first touted iron supplements and hydroxychloroquine to combat corona virus? The MSM took a false fucking info of deranged boomerfags that thought they were being clever took the fucking fish tank cleaner as medicine and the fucking media totally ran with the story completely laughed off hydroxychloroquine as a true vaccine and heavily promoted pfizer. While I hate the fact Trump completely pussied out and promoted pfizer, the real perpetrator is MSM pressuring the orange man just like they called ivermectin horse paste. They can gaslight however the fuck they want but my memory's great enough to call bs on their credibility.

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– ghostfox1_ 14 points 300 days ago +14 / -0

If your defense is "but he said the right thing, and then cucked", idgaf. He made the choice to stand up there and do what he did, knowing the entire time that the media was lying and this came from the wuhan research place.

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– Socalwackjob 7 points 300 days ago +7 / -0

Not defending Trump, but I'm lamenting the potential of the first supposed medicine completely dismissed by troglodytes and never being brought up at all, only to be remembered as a mere footnote.

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– 5Cats 6 points 300 days ago +6 / -0

The CDC gave the green light for Ivermectin to be used specifically to treat Covid-19.84 recently. Nothing had changed except the government.

When he got Teh Koof 2-3 times? Fauchi used Ivermectin (hidden by a name brand) every time.

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– Adamrises 10 points 300 days ago +10 / -0

Trump was the one who approved operation Warp Speed which set the ground stage for all of the vaxx nonsense, Biden just let it continue really.

A lot of initial Covid insanity falls squarely on him, though the only thing I'll let him on is that he seemed to make the mistake of trusting other people to make the right call and let people like governors and scientists operate independently. A very common failure of his first term.

This doesn't absolve him of responsibility for things that happened, but only it was done out of stupid naivety (another common problem with his first term) rather than malice.

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– Socalwackjob 10 points 300 days ago +10 / -0

It's funny from the earliest time the pfizer vaccine was introduced, I saw the red flag right the fuck away in 4chan thread about it. Some guy showed a page of senior staff in Pfizer company, I saw some harpy with purple dyed hair and typical feminist look employed with a title of from what I remember senior researcher. This is why pattern recognition is essential. The rest was predictable slow trainwreck that involved so many innocent people on purpose. This was when I really lost a lot of respect I had for western culture. I tried to warn them constantly nobody really listened, even a quite of lot of kiwifarms members were acting like NPCs. With the research team lead by some cunt courtesy of diversity hire, surely isn't it optimistic to think pfizer kept the records of anything?

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– Unknownsailor 8 points 300 days ago +8 / -0

I was avidly reading Karl Denninger's blog when COVID hit, and he spotted all the bull shit instantly.

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– Roadpower 2 points 300 days ago +2 / -0

Yep, he was great on the Obama birth certificate scam as well.

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– Roadpower 9 points 300 days ago +9 / -0

Trump was a total boomer fool when it came to the COVID scam. Sorry but I am never going to forgive him for that because he had years to figure it out and apologize for his role. He got a lot of people hurt and killed, I'm not saying that he did it intentionally but he was definitely a useful idiot in the process.

If millions of us could figure it out, he could have also.

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– Niemo 3 points 299 days ago +3 / -0

He's either the biggest idiot in the world or he's a part of the agenda. Seeing all the shit he's been doing for his masters my money is on the latter.

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– ParadigmShift2070 7 points 300 days ago +7 / -0

He was so eager to claim the credits, he practically begged the pharmas to lie to him and get it out, the fact covid vaccine only took months to make while all other vaccines took years to develop didn't raise any alarms in his mind? "they lied" was his plausible deniability in case something went wrong

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– RondoOBlongo 5 points 300 days ago +5 / -0

Inb4 Trump: they never shown me any results, there aren't numbers, that's a democrat lie

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