But looking up the narrow 5-4 2015 case on Wikipedia, I did learn that the last US holdouts against gay marriage are/were Indian reservations & American Samoa.
Apparently marriage on reserves is legislated by Congress & not SCOTUS.
There was an extensive list of which reservations recognize sodomites or not. Most of them are pozzed (including the few reserves I'm acquainted with).
Apparently the Navajo are fucking based (and have a membership of something like 170k).
Fundamentally, as with a bunch of these activist decisions, even if you agree with the conclusion, the argument doesn't hold.
Marriage was never federal jurisdiction. It just isn't. And there really isn't a good argument that anything in the civil rights laws or civil rights amendments ever applied.
I will be pleasantly shocked if it does get overturned. Experience says that ACB and Kav are cheap folds and Gorsuch has already sided with troons before.
I’m growingly certain there’s no such thing as the Republican “conservative” Party, it was killed in the 70s by neocons and has never conserved a single thing since then.
Would Ron Paul consider himself conservative or libertarian? He was good on stuff like foreign policy, debloating the government, and economics, but I don't actually remember what his stance was on social issues like faggotry.
It's the same basis as overturning federal abortion. It'd destroy the court if they refused because the case got It's authority from an overturned case
Raz0rfist was right that the Republican party was always progressive in nature. It's never held Conservative values, it's just that it's been co-opted by Conservatives from time to time like Harding, Goldwater, Reagan, and now Trump.
On one hand it would be better because the power would be removed from some activists in black robes and returned to the states, closer to the people. On the other hand, like you say, most states would legalize it (likely even ones that lean red) due to the decade of normalization already under our belts.
There really needs to be consequences for this sort of tactic of making blatantly illegal rulings that eventually get overturned as a sort of normalization tactic to force the Overton window to move.
The consequence is hanging from lampposts. Our ancestors understood this. But we’ve been poisoned for 80 years and white men now have half the testosterone we did in 1945, so no one will ever do anything to stop any of this.
Israel first is already giving life to democrats when they were on life support, add in Epstein, no real budget cuts, and the walk backs on illegals and H1Bs and the democrats are likely to win midterms already.
People on this board seem to not grasp how much of a difference less then a year has made.
Us had negative migration for the first time.
Put Democrats in power and it's back to open boarders, transing kids, pushing gun control, attacking freedom of speech and putting DIE back on the menu.
Epstein and the bombing Iran may have cost midterms. Generally people are happy with the deportation efforts and H1Bs does not seem to resonate that much with the general population.
I doubt I'll see any pushback on H1B visas in my lifetime from either party.
Indians will inherit the world and then claim they've built it.
If republicans never do anything meaningfully right wing or conservative, then does it really matter if the other side of the uniparty steals the midterms?
It's pretty much guaranteed that the Dems will steal 2026 since we only papered over the fraud problem in November. Might as well grab what wins we can on the off chance the "conservative supermajority" on SCOTUS doesn't knife us again.
Don't something like 30% of zoomers self-id as gay or trans? Gen Alpha is starting to turn the tide because calling faggots faggots is so extremely cathartic.
Why do you believe anything the media tells you about fake polls they invented? You realize the “public opinion poll” was created to craft consensus, not report on information, right? The originators publicly admitted it.
They need to flip Citizens United or Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. already. Or US vs Wong Kim Ark. Something that will make a difference (like overturning Roe did).
Obergefell isn't of much consequence outside of Twitter cheerleading.
For reference this is the supreme court case that legalise gay marriage.
This comment should be higher.
But looking up the narrow 5-4 2015 case on Wikipedia, I did learn that the last US holdouts against gay marriage are/were Indian reservations & American Samoa.
Apparently marriage on reserves is legislated by Congress & not SCOTUS.
There was an extensive list of which reservations recognize sodomites or not. Most of them are pozzed (including the few reserves I'm acquainted with).
Apparently the Navajo are fucking based (and have a membership of something like 170k).
The heyahoyas voted 2:1 red in the last election.
Turns out they don't like mass immigration.
This took me so long to figure out.
Fundamentally, as with a bunch of these activist decisions, even if you agree with the conclusion, the argument doesn't hold.
Marriage was never federal jurisdiction. It just isn't. And there really isn't a good argument that anything in the civil rights laws or civil rights amendments ever applied.
You have to return it to the states.
I will be pleasantly shocked if it does get overturned. Experience says that ACB and Kav are cheap folds and Gorsuch has already sided with troons before.
I’m growingly certain there’s no such thing as the Republican “conservative” Party, it was killed in the 70s by neocons and has never conserved a single thing since then.
The origins of the neocon movement were former far-left Trotskyites in the 1930s and 40s. They were never anti-left, but merely anti-Stalinist.
The last time America had real conservatives were guys like Pat Buchanan maybe.
Would Ron Paul consider himself conservative or libertarian? He was good on stuff like foreign policy, debloating the government, and economics, but I don't actually remember what his stance was on social issues like faggotry.
Well intentioned but naive. He was the Bernie of the right.
100% in agreement on that last part.
Perot?
The only thing the Republicans have conserved is jewish supremacy.
It's the same basis as overturning federal abortion. It'd destroy the court if they refused because the case got It's authority from an overturned case
They'll never do it.
Raz0rfist was right that the Republican party was always progressive in nature. It's never held Conservative values, it's just that it's been co-opted by Conservatives from time to time like Harding, Goldwater, Reagan, and now Trump.
And just like abortions, it won’t matter at all because faggotry has been “normalized” everywhere.
Yep -- state independence will be the new mantra for abortion and faggot weddings
Already there with mutilating children/"trans kids."
On one hand it would be better because the power would be removed from some activists in black robes and returned to the states, closer to the people. On the other hand, like you say, most states would legalize it (likely even ones that lean red) due to the decade of normalization already under our belts.
There really needs to be consequences for this sort of tactic of making blatantly illegal rulings that eventually get overturned as a sort of normalization tactic to force the Overton window to move.
The consequence is hanging from lampposts. Our ancestors understood this. But we’ve been poisoned for 80 years and white men now have half the testosterone we did in 1945, so no one will ever do anything to stop any of this.
Guarantees a huge loss in the midterms, but maybe they’re resigned to that already.
Israel first is already giving life to democrats when they were on life support, add in Epstein, no real budget cuts, and the walk backs on illegals and H1Bs and the democrats are likely to win midterms already.
Which is especially retarded since those are all areas they'll make even worse again once back in control.
People on this board seem to not grasp how much of a difference less then a year has made.
Us had negative migration for the first time.
Put Democrats in power and it's back to open boarders, transing kids, pushing gun control, attacking freedom of speech and putting DIE back on the menu.
No no, they get it, most of them are just intentionally propagandizing a black pill to sink Trump and the Republicans.
They'll go warp speed on all those things. Wouldn't even be surprised if "kill all white men" was the 2028 campaign slogan.
No political solution.
Epstein and the bombing Iran may have cost midterms. Generally people are happy with the deportation efforts and H1Bs does not seem to resonate that much with the general population.
I doubt I'll see any pushback on H1B visas in my lifetime from either party.
Indians will inherit the world and then claim they've built it.
Welcome to politics
And so they goyim are entertained once again by having to choose between two political parties that want them raped and dead.
If republicans never do anything meaningfully right wing or conservative, then does it really matter if the other side of the uniparty steals the midterms?
It's pretty much guaranteed that the Dems will steal 2026 since we only papered over the fraud problem in November. Might as well grab what wins we can on the off chance the "conservative supermajority" on SCOTUS doesn't knife us again.
Unlike the other bullshit they are doing, this is actually worth expending political capital on.
Don't something like 30% of zoomers self-id as gay or trans? Gen Alpha is starting to turn the tide because calling faggots faggots is so extremely cathartic.
Why do you believe anything the media tells you about fake polls they invented? You realize the “public opinion poll” was created to craft consensus, not report on information, right? The originators publicly admitted it.
Why. Do. You. Believe. The. Poll.
Frankly, 1/3 of zoomies being a fag or tranny seems conservative.
They need to flip Citizens United or Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. already. Or US vs Wong Kim Ark. Something that will make a difference (like overturning Roe did).
Obergefell isn't of much consequence outside of Twitter cheerleading.
Links about what conservatives/ republicans are complaining?
Criminalize faggotry