Ok, just for future reference, can we NOT use death in any thumbnail containing Ironmouse unless it's directly linked to HER condition. Almost made me depressed for a while..
Yeah Ironmouse leaving is the end of them, her or Melody leaving would destroy them but combined with THIS context...EVERY vtuber news channel and even the likes of Tectone or SideScrollers will report this. This is a reputation destroyer so they're done and I bet Melody, Kson, Henya and Monarch follow.
Seems the only ones really surviving are Hololive and Phase Connect..
Mata left because she broke her contract with VShojo and was let go as a result. So it was probably unrelated to this. Now Geega on the other hand did leave on her own recently and now that Mouse has confirmed what went down Geega has confirmed she knew this happened and left because of it.
Although, apparently Mata seeking merch providers other than VShojo was brought on by them being months behind on actually getting people their merch they had paid for and refusing to talk to her or the fans still waiting about what was happening. So me thinks that not all was well behind the scenes if they are cheaping out on merch and stealing charity money.
This is going to make international headlines, and probably lead to criminal investigations.
It'll be funny to see the normies scratch their heads over it
Nux's video was basically him in his room, chanting to himself in stream-of-thought ranting "yesss, they are 1336% fucked. Give or take 4 hours and 17 minutes. Not that I'm bitter as to what happened 1336 days and 4 hours ago. 1336% fucked! ...Mouse apologized publicly and privately, though, she's alright. But the company? Fucked. Fucked! I am always vindicated, always right in the end!"
It honestly ACTUALLY reminded me of the silly parody "AI anime" video where he's some sort of underground Gollum-like goblin.
God it's been forever since I read this, and I'm always going to be more neutral instead of 'women are naturally lying whores' like a lot of people on this site are, so at least from what I remember when I read it, I was mostly "If any of what's in this Google doc is true, fuck this guy". If I remember correctly, the guy accused her of cheating on him while he was doing the same shit, so neither person is in the right in this situation.
The guy himself accused her of cheating on a Facebook post and then hasn't been seen since, but I'm sure if he wanted to say more stuff he could.
The only reason I even remember this is because there were a lot of people in the thread who didn't even bother reading the Google doc because they already had what they thought in mind, but I read it and simply threw my hands up at the situation and walked away.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with that but at a skim, if those screenshots are genuine (and they probably are), that man is an absolute fucking psycho, and legitimately mentally unstable to boot. If he's the one who accused whoever this is of cheating, the condemnation is worthless anyway, since he basically said time and again he'd be a manipulative shit.
If she cheated, that's not good. Also, kind of stupid if he really is that unstable...cut things off if you have to, but don't complicate things by betraying him and giving him reasons to lash out. But this really does seem more like a story of a pretty bad relationship.
The guy himself accused her of cheating on a Facebook post and then hasn't been seen since, but I'm sure if he wanted to say more stuff he could.
Considering she's a public figure, with parasocial relationships, and he'd been manipulative before, this seems like an attempt to destroy her.
It's amazing the visceral disgust you can feel for a weak man. His whole 'if you don't do what I say, I guess I'll just give in and let my emotions control me' schtick is disgusting and pathetic. It's weak, abusive, and manipulative all at once.
Yeah, the story is too convoluted for what it actually is.
Basically right after Froot became a streamer (I forgot if she was a vtuber back then or if she just streamed faceless), he accused her and the accusations follow her around for years. She joined VShojo and people start bringing them up again, and then right before she created the Google doc, some other streamers start bringing that shit up again which leads her to creating the Google doc.
My thing has always been “why should we believe X”? The reason that we believe that Diddy, Weinstein and Epstein did the shit they did is because there’s a fuckton of evidence on all fronts even though the courts didn’t touch it for decades.
This guy just randomly says that she cheated on him and for some reason people still just want to blindly take his side. I understand how people feel about women on this site and how a lot of people on this site want to go full Islam on women, but don’t be led to that conclusion by liars like that ex who in my opinion, is only believed by so many people because people want to trust service members as well as the general right wing response to feminism.
Unsurprising. Vshojo's entire business model left me scratching my head as to how they'd make money after the investment capital runs dry. It seemed to me they were gunning for market leader position really quickly with a loss leader business model and then tighten the screws once they were the only game in town. I guess they didn't account for how wide a gap there was between them and Cover/ Anycolour/ Phase.
So like 99% of charities that spend nearly all their funds on ''administrative costs'', salaries, and donating to other charities ( where their friends or themselves collect another salary ).
And is friends with slimy scumfucks like BBno$ and Hasan Orbiters.
I get it, it's a woman who was desperate for any kind of friends because of her isolation and disability, so those kind of people naturally took over, and she's probably too scared to call them out on being scum because she is scared of losing friends she always wanted to have
Hasan's little crew truly are awful people. Washed up tubers constantly go to bat for them, but they never return the favor. Sociopaths through and through.
Everything kxitx said + he's just your average "male feminist" dork that will say anything to get nasty Leftoid broads to say he's so great. No spine, no real morals, just the type of slimy guy who bends with the breeze.
he did a music video with OTK but between filming and releasing that asmongold started to say some dangerously based things so when it was released asmon who had been very prominent in the shots (baby without money has gone on record multiple times to say that asmon was his favourite streamer) was edited out by replacing his head with a murloc png
Ok, just for future reference, can we NOT use death in any thumbnail containing Ironmouse unless it's directly linked to HER condition. Almost made me depressed for a while..
Yeah Ironmouse leaving is the end of them, her or Melody leaving would destroy them but combined with THIS context...EVERY vtuber news channel and even the likes of Tectone or SideScrollers will report this. This is a reputation destroyer so they're done and I bet Melody, Kson, Henya and Monarch follow.
Seems the only ones really surviving are Hololive and Phase Connect..
This does put Zen and Mata leaving in an entirely new light, come to think.
Mata left because she broke her contract with VShojo and was let go as a result. So it was probably unrelated to this. Now Geega on the other hand did leave on her own recently and now that Mouse has confirmed what went down Geega has confirmed she knew this happened and left because of it.
Although, apparently Mata seeking merch providers other than VShojo was brought on by them being months behind on actually getting people their merch they had paid for and refusing to talk to her or the fans still waiting about what was happening. So me thinks that not all was well behind the scenes if they are cheaping out on merch and stealing charity money.
This is going to make international headlines, and probably lead to criminal investigations. It'll be funny to see the normies scratch their heads over it
Inb4 Nux taku was right.
The Blue Jew ended up being the greatest ally?
Maybe not, but he was thrown under the bus for calling out VShogo back in the day for shady behavior.
Listen man, it's not all of them even if it's always them.
Nux's video was basically him in his room, chanting to himself in stream-of-thought ranting "yesss, they are 1336% fucked. Give or take 4 hours and 17 minutes. Not that I'm bitter as to what happened 1336 days and 4 hours ago. 1336% fucked! ...Mouse apologized publicly and privately, though, she's alright. But the company? Fucked. Fucked! I am always vindicated, always right in the end!"
It honestly ACTUALLY reminded me of the silly parody "AI anime" video where he's some sort of underground Gollum-like goblin.
It was a photo finish by the looks of it. Comment and nux video both published within an hour.
Was Ironmouse the one that cheated on her boyfriend while he was deployed, or was that someone else?
Oh i remember the thread
it was FROOT, and yes Ironmouse definitely vouched for her behavior
for non twitter users
the thread itself is a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEE redpill on the nature of foids, and V-thots in general
God it's been forever since I read this, and I'm always going to be more neutral instead of 'women are naturally lying whores' like a lot of people on this site are, so at least from what I remember when I read it, I was mostly "If any of what's in this Google doc is true, fuck this guy". If I remember correctly, the guy accused her of cheating on him while he was doing the same shit, so neither person is in the right in this situation.
The guy himself accused her of cheating on a Facebook post and then hasn't been seen since, but I'm sure if he wanted to say more stuff he could.
The only reason I even remember this is because there were a lot of people in the thread who didn't even bother reading the Google doc because they already had what they thought in mind, but I read it and simply threw my hands up at the situation and walked away.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with that but at a skim, if those screenshots are genuine (and they probably are), that man is an absolute fucking psycho, and legitimately mentally unstable to boot. If he's the one who accused whoever this is of cheating, the condemnation is worthless anyway, since he basically said time and again he'd be a manipulative shit.
If she cheated, that's not good. Also, kind of stupid if he really is that unstable...cut things off if you have to, but don't complicate things by betraying him and giving him reasons to lash out. But this really does seem more like a story of a pretty bad relationship.
Considering she's a public figure, with parasocial relationships, and he'd been manipulative before, this seems like an attempt to destroy her.
It's amazing the visceral disgust you can feel for a weak man. His whole 'if you don't do what I say, I guess I'll just give in and let my emotions control me' schtick is disgusting and pathetic. It's weak, abusive, and manipulative all at once.
Yeah, the story is too convoluted for what it actually is.
Basically right after Froot became a streamer (I forgot if she was a vtuber back then or if she just streamed faceless), he accused her and the accusations follow her around for years. She joined VShojo and people start bringing them up again, and then right before she created the Google doc, some other streamers start bringing that shit up again which leads her to creating the Google doc.
My thing has always been “why should we believe X”? The reason that we believe that Diddy, Weinstein and Epstein did the shit they did is because there’s a fuckton of evidence on all fronts even though the courts didn’t touch it for decades.
This guy just randomly says that she cheated on him and for some reason people still just want to blindly take his side. I understand how people feel about women on this site and how a lot of people on this site want to go full Islam on women, but don’t be led to that conclusion by liars like that ex who in my opinion, is only believed by so many people because people want to trust service members as well as the general right wing response to feminism.
She supported the one who did
Which makes her equally guilty
Unsurprising. Vshojo's entire business model left me scratching my head as to how they'd make money after the investment capital runs dry. It seemed to me they were gunning for market leader position really quickly with a loss leader business model and then tighten the screws once they were the only game in town. I guess they didn't account for how wide a gap there was between them and Cover/ Anycolour/ Phase.
Hololive wins again, just by Motoaki Tanigo being a decent human being.
Wow, that's hella fucked up.
So like 99% of charities that spend nearly all their funds on ''administrative costs'', salaries, and donating to other charities ( where their friends or themselves collect another salary ).
Well I went down a rabbit hole with this one. I’ve never, ever heard of this person, or this organization.
She seems cool? I think?
nah she's a whore who supports cheating
And is friends with slimy scumfucks like BBno$ and Hasan Orbiters.
I get it, it's a woman who was desperate for any kind of friends because of her isolation and disability, so those kind of people naturally took over, and she's probably too scared to call them out on being scum because she is scared of losing friends she always wanted to have
Hasan's little crew truly are awful people. Washed up tubers constantly go to bat for them, but they never return the favor. Sociopaths through and through.
I don't listen to his music, but what about him about a person is a 'slimy scumfuck'?
Everything kxitx said + he's just your average "male feminist" dork that will say anything to get nasty Leftoid broads to say he's so great. No spine, no real morals, just the type of slimy guy who bends with the breeze.
he did a music video with OTK but between filming and releasing that asmongold started to say some dangerously based things so when it was released asmon who had been very prominent in the shots (baby without money has gone on record multiple times to say that asmon was his favourite streamer) was edited out by replacing his head with a murloc png
I only know her from the Skallagrim response inception.
In fact, that is really the only reason I am aware of vtubers at all.
Oh did mouse leave as well? Geez you take 1 day off the internet