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The you were never MAGA people might have a point
posted 352 days ago by MattTheBlack 352 days ago by MattTheBlack +11 / -0

I'm seeing "right wing" influencers encouraging people to vote Democrat to "protest" the bombing of Iran.

This is so retarded I do not think I need more words.

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– Norenia 24 points 352 days ago +24 / -0

Make no mistake, I'm not happy he did this.

Democrats wouldn't have negotiated a ceasefire that fast, or started to lose their temper with Israel's violation of said ceasefire (They're only publicly against these actions because it's unpopular with Trump's voting base. You know damn well they'd be doing it too if they were in power.)

You can criticize someone without supporting worse people.

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– SocraticMethod1 8 points 352 days ago +8 / -0

You'll have to be careful with that as there are those with valid criticisms, wary of another Warpspeed but are arguing from a point of 'we don't want Trump to lose' position.

There are others who are down the 'Israel owns DC' but WOULDN'T support the Dems.

Then you have the weathervanes/ scorpions that would backstab as soon as they see their grift take a slight dip.

The first two are useful, the latter needs purging.

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– MattTheBlack [S] 8 points 351 days ago +8 / -0

Israel supports anyone willing to shill them. They already have alot of democrats on the payroll.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 351 days ago +5 / -0

The type of person to go "I think Trump might be compromised by Jews, quickly, make Bernie Sanders the president instead" are a special kind of stupid.

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– SocraticMethod1 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

I'm thankful the most I heard from the people I listened to was 'please don't listen to the warmongers and get us out of this mess as soon as possible Mr president'

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– Smith1980 6 points 352 days ago +6 / -0

Like Bill Kristol or all those republicans you see on MSNBC or CNN. If republicans had a candidate I couldn’t stand in certainly not going to vote for party whose views I don’t align with at all

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 352 days ago +4 / -0

No, they don't have a point just because some people go overboard in their reaction. Or maybe they're just trolls. There's been people here telling others not to vote Republicans (glowies IMO) since the very beginning.

Trump attracted a lot of Sanders/Tulsi/RFK types for whom anti-war is not just another political position, but a fundamental principle, like a lot of people can't vote for a candidate who is pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

Furthermore, I'm not justifying it, but if there is no point at which the Republicans can lose people's votes, things are just going to get progressively worse. But if you have to vote against the Republicans, such people should be voting for third party candidates, not Democrats, because the message there can be easily misconstrued.

(There. I said enough so that every single person can find something to violently disagree with.)

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– MattTheBlack [S] 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

If you start encouraging people to vote for radical leftists because Trump is being a retard then you never cared about fighting back the leftist control of this county ie making America great again

Also I said a point not that they were right about everything

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

Considering literally zero dems don't absolutely support infinite third world migration, pushing fag shit on preteens and compulsory nigger worship 24/7, I don't see any reason to do this beyond "muh acceleration" cope.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

They don't have a point because while OP is avoiding mentioning any names, he's definitely talking about that gigafaggot Fuentes and his clique of pedophiles. They've been doing this since Trump's first term. I can't fathom the levels of brain rot required to not dismiss them instantly.

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– MattTheBlack [S] 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

I don't know who Fuentes runs around with but they could possibly be his affiliates. I just noticed a sharp uptick in people running "right wing" accounts encouraging people to vote democrat

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– Kienan 4 points 352 days ago +4 / -0

Who?

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– current_horror 12 points 352 days ago +12 / -0

Randos on Twitter, possibly with Israeli IPs.

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– MattTheBlack [S] 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

By randos you mean influencers with tens to hundreds of thousands of followers? Also certainly not just on Twitter which I don't even use

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– Telia 6 points 351 days ago +6 / -0

Name names. Why don't you post who they are. ?

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

Because we'd notice things

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– MattTheBlack [S] 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

Oh yes when I've repeatedly been against Israeli influence it was because I'm protecting jews from being noticed being subversive. No the simple truth of the matter is that I'm not about to start saving names on Instagram to repost on this forum because that's too much work

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– deleted 2 points 352 days ago +2 / -0
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– Knight_Of_Saint_John 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

You are a jewish nigger and you are fooling absolutely no one

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– MattTheBlack [S] 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

You are a faggot

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– Knight_Of_Saint_John 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

I'd rather be a faggot than a jewish nigger

I can't fathom a more cursed fate

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

I would just not vote or vote third party over voting Dem. You will notice Dems put up very little resistance to this. That's because their leaders are overwhelmingly supportive of it, too.

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– ArtemisFoul 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

Naaaaaw, I'm sure Schumer is crying his eyes out right now

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– ModsAreAIDS 3 points 352 days ago +3 / -0

Why should we continue voting for Republicans? We don't live in Israel, so they don't represent us. As crazy as the Democrat party is, at least their ascending faction wants the Israeli influence removed from our government.

If only one party is going to represent American citizens, then they are the only possible choice to make. The Republican party can either stop being controlled by Israel, or they can go the way of the Whigs. No amount of "you were never MAGA" is going to shame me back into line. You can yap all you want about it. I will do my talking in the voting booth.

Fuck Israel and fuck the Republican party.

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– SR388-SAX 6 points 351 days ago +6 / -0

Hooray! We can have open borders and infinity immigrants, but at least when we do things for Israel, our politicians won't come out and openly brag about it and instead do it behind closed doors with no media scrutiny!

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– ModsAreAIDS 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

Don't care. If Republicans want my vote ever again, they will start representing American citizens. Until then, I want the party gone and replaced with one that will.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

Realistically, Ukraine would become our "greatest ally" overnight and the same shit would go on unabated.

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– Kienan 5 points 352 days ago +5 / -0

As crazy as the Democrat party is, at least their ascending faction wants the Israeli influence removed from our government.

Citation fucking needed.

Trump fucked up here, and there's plenty - plenty! - of scum in the Republican party, but they're still more likely to actually be America First.

Don't prove OP's retarded point be being this silly.

Name a single Democrat that would represent us as well as Trump.

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– ModsAreAIDS 3 points 352 days ago +3 / -0

For proof, just see the campus protests over Gaza that has been causing all kinds of kvetching, new BDS/hatespeech laws, and targeted deportations purely to protect our chosen overlords.

I'm not being silly. I'm fucking PISSED. I want to take a torch to the entire GOP (metaphorically), "MAGA" traitors included. Fuck them all for this treason.

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– Kienan 7 points 352 days ago +7 / -0

As I said, name a single current Democrat who's better than Trump.

Also, although I hate Israeli influence, and what is being done in Gaza, it's important to keep in mind that a huge chunk of the Gaza protestors also hate America, and hate you.

They're not our friends, no matter how you feel about Israel.

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– ModsAreAIDS 1 point 352 days ago +1 / -0

They're not our friends, no matter how you feel about Israel.

It doesn't stop the Republican party from being my enemy either. I am DONE with voting for the lesser evil and accepting the compromise that the GOP will talk a big game about representing me only to walk a big game about representing Israel every time they manage to get some political power. The party can represent only Americans, or they can get fucked, period.

Edit: as far as any Democrat better than Trump, that would be any of them willing to tell Israel to fuck off. This includes some of the stupidest people in congress, like AOC, Jayapal, and Cori Bush, yet they are somehow still smarter than Trump.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

So not voting then?

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– MattTheBlack [S] 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

Lmao you're literally talking to a prime example but my point is totally retarded huh. Guess you'll end up voting democrat to own "Trump" too.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

He's got a point. Massie is alright (for the most part). Not hugely for Gaetz, Hawley or Boebert either, but they're at least "okay." Omar and AOC are absolute shit on everything except Israel and that's more of a broken clock scenario than anything.

I don't hate (((them))) more than I love my own people. The former is entirely on account of the latter. If they were willing to live like an isolated tribe in the Amazon I'd be perfectly happy to forget they even exist.

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– deleted 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

Our Canadian friend dagthegnome said it best: if you let Israel issues prevent you from voting for the guy who is objectively better for your country, whether you're pro or anti, you're Israel First.

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– ModsAreAIDS 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

"Vote for the Israel first candidate or you are voting for Israel first."

I'm not surprised it came from a Canadian. That is some pure Trudeauian wisdom right there.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

Yup, if you completely disregard your own country because you only care with helping or harming another country, you're Israel First.

That Canadian cares about his own country. You don't seem to.

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– ModsAreAIDS 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

I care about getting my country out from under the thumb of another country, like any patriot would. That Canadian wants to stick his head in the sand and pretend that there is no problem. Both of you are cucks.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

They only want Israel out because they think jews are white and they hate whites

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– ModsAreAIDS 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

Right for the wrong reasons is still right. I am now a single issue voter on this. If Democrats are the only party pushing back on Israeli meddling, then that is who will get my vote.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

Good to know. Hating jews enough to support mass migration and pushing faggotry on children is a dealbreaker for me I'm afraid. Those things will destroy us faster than AIPAC will (and yes I'm aware who are pushing it). But good luck. I heavily suggest dropping USS Liberty and Federal Reserve redpills at Free Palestine rallies if you really care about the future of the White race and aren't just being edgy.

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– CaptainTrouble 3 points 352 days ago +3 / -0

I'm a never MAGA and I would never advocate voting. If you want change, start a violent revolution.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 351 days ago +6 / -0

We know federal agents don't vote for Trump.

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– CaptainTrouble 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

You don't vote for Trump?

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

I don't vote for Trump. I live in Europe.

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– CaptainTrouble 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

I heard Germany arrested some citizens today for disagreeing with the government. You really think you can vote your way out of that when Germany makes opposing political parties illegal?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

There is far more to the power of the people than just 'voting'. Authoritarian regimes are regularly brought down by people banding together, strategizing, protesting, striking, etc.

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– CaptainTrouble 4 points 351 days ago +4 / -0

Usually, that's because the people are backed by another country with power like when the USA or Israel initiates its color revolutions on other countries to instill their puppets.

Also, authoritarian regimes aren't the problem. Evil regimes are. Name one instance where White people got a better government through peaceful protest?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

Usually, that's because the people are backed by another country with power like when the USA or Israel initiates its color revolutions on other countries to instill their puppets.

Truth enough, but they have a lot of valuable strategies that can be used.

Also, authoritarian regimes aren't the problem.

I never said anything about whether they were or not. I said that regimes can end even when they don't allow for free elections, and authoritarian regimes don't.

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 1 point 351 days ago +1 / -0

Playing devil's advocate here. The IRA was only part of the equation for Ireland. They also had a political wing, popular support, and did everything they could to improve the lives of the Irish. It wasn't all bombs and assassination.

Palestine is actually a good example as well. Sure there are resistance fighters (not gonna call them the T-word) but there are also humanitarian efforts and aid going to the innocent civilians - can't stress that part enough - harmed by the IDF. It's why Free Palestine is a much catchier slogan than TJD. Don't count out optics.

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– Mpetey123 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

Too many people on both sides threw their babies out with the bathwater.

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– brimshae 3 points 351 days ago +3 / -0

I have not see anyone suggest this.

I've seen PLENTY of people say that getting involved in foreign entanglements is a good thing.

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– ghostfox1_ 2 points 351 days ago +2 / -0

https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/19BZbaL9SC/x/c/4eU2YmvHyRt

Here you go

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