The absolute chutzpah of Gordan Peterson to accuse others of being like the Pharisees meanwhile Peterson sucks up to the jews who are the literal descendents of the Pharisees both physically and ideologically.
Peterson is the guy who hates people saying "Christ is King" and will claim you are being like the Pharisees if you say that , because it hurts the feelings of his precious jews
The bit at around four minutes is quite tragic. People rightly mocked Peterson for crying way too much...but at least he cared.
I'd take that over modern, to use his own terms, psychopathic Peterson. Crying, overly-empathetic Peterson was infinitely preferable to this monster.
Him being a smug and hateful bastard in contrast to him crying about the plight of young men...it's tough. Him crying never really touched me...but him crying in contrast to him selling out, it's pretty damn heartbreaking.
It's an utterly devastating comparison. Similar to that meme of Douglas Murray destroying himself, this is Jordan Peterson destroying himself, not in argument, but attitude. Peterson showing empathy, versus Peterson condemning others for not being empathetic.
The body language is also striking. Peterson is essentially two different people at this point. Shockingly, crying Peterson was the better person, by a fucking longshot.
Makes you wonder, was he on drugs back then or now? I'm not talking about recreational but psychological drugs. That change in personality sounds pretty severe.
He went to Russia to go into a months long medically-induced coma in 2020 in order to combat what was at that point a severe addiction to benzos, which has severe enough withdrawal symptoms to potentially have killed him.
How long before that point he was on them I couldn't tell you, but the answer to your initial question is "yes, he was on psychological drugs".
While I comprehend WHY anyone on this site, forced to the margin of discourse as we are, would be aggrieved by that position at first pass, I think you're reading a bit much into it. He's angry at the twitterati, much as we are.
stupid tradcuck takes
Okay, but that's hardly new. His viewpoint was always rooted in the old world of the 20th century consensus.
While I comprehend WHY anyone on this site, forced to the margin of discourse as we are, would be aggrieved by that position at first pass, I think you're reading a bit much into it.
"This goes against everything you stand for, but you're reading too much into it, bud."
He's angry at the twitterati, much as we are.
Not sure what exactly the "Twitterati" is, but whoever they are is afforded to the same free and anonymous speech as we are. Anyone who would say otherwise, or defend other people who are campaigning for the alternative, do not actually believe in free speech.
"He's angry," is not an excuse, if he's railing against everything we've always defended.
"This goes against everything you stand for, but you're reading too much into it, bud."
Anonymity is a means, not a end.
If god descended from on high and offered to strike down the SJWs and cultural marxists and regular marxists, to leave their ideology and all their works in ruins never to rise again, and the price was the loss of anonymity...
This has to be the most godawful take I've ever seen in my life.
Unironically taking the trade freedom for security and getting neither deal.
Not to mention it being completely nonsensical to behin with. "I'd trade being fucked in the ass for all eternity in exchange for not getting fucked in the ass anymore"
Surveillance is fundamentally evil. To be observed by someone who you cannot in return see is at the core of capital H humiliation. Fuck that's the entire center of Kings "having you in their eye" while yours are downcast.
Where once men debased themselves before kings, for kings claimed it to be the demand of god.
Now it is seen as quaint and barbaric. For now we debase ourselves before kings because it is good for us.
It is an affront to humanity that a man may see a man who does not see him. It is an act of innate aggression.
Your postion here is revolting, and I mean that without hyperbole, it turns my stomach.
In what way could you possibly describe JP as "selling out"?
To the Daily Wire, evil, and Zionism; and against the disaffected male he championed for so long? Did you watch the video?
I admire much of what Peterson did, and will always defend him for his positive contributions, but he's a shadow of his former self. That was clear for quite some time, and his recent behavior isn't even novel.
Peterson is a sad joke at this point, and he's on the side of evil.
The bit at around four minutes is quite tragic. People rightly mocked Peterson for crying way too much...but at least he cared.
I'm not sure this is true, at least not for the clip featured. This was already late stage Peterson in Sept 2022, after whatever damage one may speculate he suffered from the benzos episode. Musk completed the Twitter takeover only one month later. By December 2022 Peterson was already ranting about 'anonymous coward troll demons'.
Whatever is making him cry here (and it wasn't the last time he spun some Tears For Piers) I think it's too simple to ring it up as pure empathy. Probably a lot of ambivalence and confusion which was making it difficult to know what to say or think. The deadpan 'sure. why not,' in response to Piers asking him whether he championed incels, felt like an unenthusiastic way to commit to that stance, so I think his stance was already changing.
Peterson was good before he had that mental breakdown and went on benzos. He went to "rehab" (which I believe was something akin to an mk ultra re education camp) and came out the other side shitting all over the people he previously supported. The real tell that he had changed was when he started obsessing over twitter trolls by comparing them to nazis, and joined the Daily Wire, thus solidifying his support of the ZOG.
It really sucks, because before his drug addiction he was one of the few "conservative" media figures that was capable of eviscerating manipulative journalists in real time. A good example is when he practically reduced Cathy Newman to tears on live television. We basically didn't see stuff like that again until we got JD Vance doing it to reporters. Pretty much every other conservative media figure has to spend hours dismantling the manipulations that leftists use in their arguments, and that makes it very difficult to do on the fly.
It's a great tragedy that someone so capable turned into such a lolcow.
The absolute chutzpah of Gordan Peterson to accuse others of being like the Pharisees meanwhile Peterson sucks up to the jews who are the literal descendents of the Pharisees both physically and ideologically.
Peterson is the guy who hates people saying "Christ is King" and will claim you are being like the Pharisees if you say that , because it hurts the feelings of his precious jews
This one is really interesting.
The bit at around four minutes is quite tragic. People rightly mocked Peterson for crying way too much...but at least he cared.
I'd take that over modern, to use his own terms, psychopathic Peterson. Crying, overly-empathetic Peterson was infinitely preferable to this monster.
Him being a smug and hateful bastard in contrast to him crying about the plight of young men...it's tough. Him crying never really touched me...but him crying in contrast to him selling out, it's pretty damn heartbreaking.
It's an utterly devastating comparison. Similar to that meme of Douglas Murray destroying himself, this is Jordan Peterson destroying himself, not in argument, but attitude. Peterson showing empathy, versus Peterson condemning others for not being empathetic.
The body language is also striking. Peterson is essentially two different people at this point. Shockingly, crying Peterson was the better person, by a fucking longshot.
What happened to you, man?
Peterson turned against the "incels" the moment they started talking against jews.
It's amazing how many people just shut down whenever you bring them up. Not even in a con pro way, just noticing trends and patterns.
Makes you wonder, was he on drugs back then or now? I'm not talking about recreational but psychological drugs. That change in personality sounds pretty severe.
He went to Russia to go into a months long medically-induced coma in 2020 in order to combat what was at that point a severe addiction to benzos, which has severe enough withdrawal symptoms to potentially have killed him.
How long before that point he was on them I couldn't tell you, but the answer to your initial question is "yes, he was on psychological drugs".
In what way could you possibly describe JP as "selling out"?
His crusade against online anonymity and stupid tradcuck takes come to mind.
While I comprehend WHY anyone on this site, forced to the margin of discourse as we are, would be aggrieved by that position at first pass, I think you're reading a bit much into it. He's angry at the twitterati, much as we are.
Okay, but that's hardly new. His viewpoint was always rooted in the old world of the 20th century consensus.
"This goes against everything you stand for, but you're reading too much into it, bud."
Not sure what exactly the "Twitterati" is, but whoever they are is afforded to the same free and anonymous speech as we are. Anyone who would say otherwise, or defend other people who are campaigning for the alternative, do not actually believe in free speech.
"He's angry," is not an excuse, if he's railing against everything we've always defended.
Anonymity is a means, not a end.
If god descended from on high and offered to strike down the SJWs and cultural marxists and regular marxists, to leave their ideology and all their works in ruins never to rise again, and the price was the loss of anonymity...
I'd make that deal.
A) that's not being offered
B) that makes no sense
C) anonymity is most definitely a fundamental right, as demonstrated by the secret ballot
This has to be the most godawful take I've ever seen in my life.
Unironically taking the trade freedom for security and getting neither deal.
Not to mention it being completely nonsensical to behin with. "I'd trade being fucked in the ass for all eternity in exchange for not getting fucked in the ass anymore"
Surveillance is fundamentally evil. To be observed by someone who you cannot in return see is at the core of capital H humiliation. Fuck that's the entire center of Kings "having you in their eye" while yours are downcast.
Your postion here is revolting, and I mean that without hyperbole, it turns my stomach.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
^^ That's you
If you think you need anonymity to be free then the question should be asked what you're trying to do with freedom.
In my experience, 99% of the time that freedom is being used to preach for someone else's death.
Working for the Daily Wire.
To the Daily Wire, evil, and Zionism; and against the disaffected male he championed for so long? Did you watch the video?
I admire much of what Peterson did, and will always defend him for his positive contributions, but he's a shadow of his former self. That was clear for quite some time, and his recent behavior isn't even novel.
Peterson is a sad joke at this point, and he's on the side of evil.
Did you just come out of a coma? JP has been utterly converged.
I'm not sure this is true, at least not for the clip featured. This was already late stage Peterson in Sept 2022, after whatever damage one may speculate he suffered from the benzos episode. Musk completed the Twitter takeover only one month later. By December 2022 Peterson was already ranting about 'anonymous coward troll demons'.
Whatever is making him cry here (and it wasn't the last time he spun some Tears For Piers) I think it's too simple to ring it up as pure empathy. Probably a lot of ambivalence and confusion which was making it difficult to know what to say or think. The deadpan 'sure. why not,' in response to Piers asking him whether he championed incels, felt like an unenthusiastic way to commit to that stance, so I think his stance was already changing.
Peterson was good before he had that mental breakdown and went on benzos. He went to "rehab" (which I believe was something akin to an mk ultra re education camp) and came out the other side shitting all over the people he previously supported. The real tell that he had changed was when he started obsessing over twitter trolls by comparing them to nazis, and joined the Daily Wire, thus solidifying his support of the ZOG.
It really sucks, because before his drug addiction he was one of the few "conservative" media figures that was capable of eviscerating manipulative journalists in real time. A good example is when he practically reduced Cathy Newman to tears on live television. We basically didn't see stuff like that again until we got JD Vance doing it to reporters. Pretty much every other conservative media figure has to spend hours dismantling the manipulations that leftists use in their arguments, and that makes it very difficult to do on the fly.
It's a great tragedy that someone so capable turned into such a lolcow.
This is what JP always was, and if you were smart enough to see past his bafflegarble, you would never have fallen for his act in the first place.
Vox was right again
Fame changes people.
I awlays liked the videos of him in college settings, speaking to a classroom.
He seemed so much nicer.
Jordan Judenson, shabbos goy extraordinaire.
Decline? He was always a Judas goat.