2 million players means the same as Disney+ subscriptions that comes with cellphone and other subscription packages.
Ubisoft Connect and its little cousin Ubisoft+ have teamed up with StarHub on its GameHub plan which inflates 'player' numbers over purchases of product and is the sneakiest way to hoodwink the average Joe as to how successful the game is.
I don't care about, nor dislike, Ubisoft normally but this marketing strategy of literally calling me a racist has me wanting them metaphorically burned to the ground.
This. So much this. Even if those numbers are legitimate, this is the culprit.
I don't care about, nor dislike, Ubisoft normally
Speak for yourself. My own goodwill toward Ubisoft ran out years ago. Which is actually a shame, as some of their stuff was not just good, but amazing. But they've been phoning it in for many years now, and engaging in atrocious business practices and wokeness to boot.
It fools the shareholders, which is all that matters. Especially since most investors are low-information ETF normies. As long as the C-suite make line go up and collect their bonuses, they're doing their jobs as far as everyone's concerned.
Its a damn shame how correct you are. Having gone through a couple buy-outs, reporting direct to C level people, and other such bull shit, I can just say "yeah"
It doesn't matter what retards think. Retarded thoughts aren't an accepted form of currency. Ubisoft needs money, and they need it yesterday. This is just the desperate flailings of a drowning company.
It’s also a massive shell game for investors. Investors are completely ignorant (or willfully compliant) that these numbers don’t mean direct purchases.
As an aside, I refuse to buy games from stores that open them up and leave the case on the shelf. Every single one of those is now used and no one should pay full price for them.
You know what’s interesting? Split Fiction appears to be a legitimate success. It’s obviously feminist as fuck, with two obnoxious millennial female leads and a token straight white male bad guy, and both the sales and CCU are there. So why isn’t leftist media laser focused on this rare diversity win? Why are they obsessed with gaslighting everyone about these obvious flops?
It reminds me of a similar pattern with police brutality. Whenever there’s clear police abuse, the left doesn’t really care. Because almost no one is defending the cops in those cases, so there’s no strife. Instead, the left shows up in force whenever the cops are in the right. It’s like leftists only care about moving the Overton window. An actually good woke game? Leftists sleep. A woke bomb? Leftists prevaricate and dissemble as if their lives are at stake.
There was an interesting post from Scott Alexander about this from the long long ago, about how bad cases provide higher signaling value. As you say, when the police are being legit evil, it's not worth complaining about because everyone agrees with you. Only a TRUE BELIEVER will argue for the release of triple-murder-rape home invader illiterate crackhead dindus.
The point of games like Veilguard, Dustborn, and AC Shadows is -- as you noted -- to push the overton window. They are so extremely Left that when someone who used to be centre makes a moderately Left game, everyone jumps on it with glee.
This two-pronged attack is quite successful. Forspoken sank so Baldur's Gate 3 could swim.
Think about the amount of people ragging on AC Shadows but gleefully swallowing the Kingdom Come 2 goyslop with gay Henry.
Force-feeding the Veilguards and Concords onto the market also forces those centre and centre-Right to creep over to the Left.
For example, before Split Fiction, think about the games Josef Fares made previously. Did they star two females? Were they overtly feminist?
A lot of times the reaction from studios who aren't full-blown woke is to move a little bit to the Left so they don't get accused of being "racist, homophobic, antisemitic", etc. People lap it up because a previously wholesome franchise that adds a little bit of Liberal Progressivism isn't considered that bad because people are saying, "Well, at least it's not Dustborn/Forspoken/Veilguard".
Think about how many so-called anti-woke YouTube channels have come out of the woodwork to defend Kingdom Come 2's gayness?
The amount of channels I see constantly throwing up the "We have no problem with faggotry! Faggotry is fine! We just don't like this particular messaging of faggotry!" is quite telling.
At this rate, we can expect in a few years for those same anti-woke channels to start throwing up "We have no problem with faggotry or transgenderism, we just don't like this particular messaging of trangenderism!"
And a few years after that, replace transgenderism with pedophilia...
I have patience. Just like with Veilguard, I can wait a few months before they admit it was all propaganda, and it was a colossal failure.
I'm in no hurry. No one's opinion really matters; facts matter. People can say it was a massive success, and there's no point arguing. I'll just wait a while, and then laugh at everyone when, once again, the Conspiracy Theorist Wrongthinkers were completely correct.
They won't ever admit it except in a quiet earnings call with shareholders explaining why they need to accept a buyout from Tencent. "We heavily invested in what we thought was a slam dunk but players just aren't playing games any more. It can't be helped there's nothing anyone could have done differently."
"Playercount" obsession has been a growing issue in gaming for a while.
From both ends of the spectrum. As in "oh no no no the single player game doesn't have 100k players anymore after two months! FLOP SHAZAM FLOP!!!" all the way to "it has 2 million players, its a massive success because the console numbers make that 10 million that number is huge!!"
And of course, gaming companies made note of it. That's why they obsessively do posts like that about their "huge milestone" of players for every release, to try and get people with that FOMO.
Its always worth remembering that 5 million sales was the goal for EA with Dead Space 3, which they considered a "passable number" for a single player game with MTX. And that was over a decade ago when the industry was a fraction of its current size and budgets for games were even smaller than that.
So for a 2025 mainstream AAA title with full MTX and battlepass, massive marketing and many delays, the necessary player number for it to be a success is probably in the 8 figure range.
From the perspective of a customer, sales numbers are irrelevant for the most part. In fact if a game is good, flopping is good for you since it means you'll be able to buy it cheap. The only thing you can really say is you want games you like to sell well so they get sequels, but sequels have no guarantee of quality anyway (e.g. Dragon Age).
What's super strange is how emotional the left gets about this shit, like trannies on streams crying over Concord flopping. FFS. Who cares? It doesn't affect you in the least.
From the perspective of a customer sales numbers are irrelevant for the most part.
Its useful in the sense of "can I expect a lot of people online" if it has multiplayer or, as you said, a vague use in "is there a chance of a sequel?" But that's the literal only use it has for you as the consumer.
Also this plague unfortunately effects more than just the Left. Most video game forums of any type get way too obsessive about these numbers, treating them as some sort of gospel about the quality and value of the game.
The Concord thing I 100% believe was them being more upset that "the Chuds won" than any actual care about the game. They weren't ever going to play it, but its failure is a huge blow to their control of the industry and convincing companies to make games Woker.
They couldve done an afro samurai game.. hell even get samuel jackson to promote it. If they gonna go with japanese girls getting blacked, might as well be cool, masculine non faggoty black dude.
Also with RZA doing new ost.
Fury in my eyes, Sword at my side. Escape death to become immortalized. Afro on my head, im the black samurai.
2 million players means the same as Disney+ subscriptions that comes with cellphone and other subscription packages.
Ubisoft Connect and its little cousin Ubisoft+ have teamed up with StarHub on its GameHub plan which inflates 'player' numbers over purchases of product and is the sneakiest way to hoodwink the average Joe as to how successful the game is.
I don't care about, nor dislike, Ubisoft normally but this marketing strategy of literally calling me a racist has me wanting them metaphorically burned to the ground.
Plus the game looks like a joke!
This. So much this. Even if those numbers are legitimate, this is the culprit.
Speak for yourself. My own goodwill toward Ubisoft ran out years ago. Which is actually a shame, as some of their stuff was not just good, but amazing. But they've been phoning it in for many years now, and engaging in atrocious business practices and wokeness to boot.
Fuck Ubi.
I called it quits with them at XIII - great game but they were going completely different as a company.
Bethesda did Morrowmind with them around the same time. You can clearly see how they changed as a company and it has only gotten stronger over time.
it's unfortunate some retards think 2 bajillin players = sales
2 bajillion players means it must've sold at least 2 gorillion copies.
It fools the shareholders, which is all that matters. Especially since most investors are low-information ETF normies. As long as the C-suite make line go up and collect their bonuses, they're doing their jobs as far as everyone's concerned.
Its a damn shame how correct you are. Having gone through a couple buy-outs, reporting direct to C level people, and other such bull shit, I can just say "yeah"
It doesn't matter what retards think. Retarded thoughts aren't an accepted form of currency. Ubisoft needs money, and they need it yesterday. This is just the desperate flailings of a drowning company.
It’s also a massive shell game for investors. Investors are completely ignorant (or willfully compliant) that these numbers don’t mean direct purchases.
As an aside, I refuse to buy games from stores that open them up and leave the case on the shelf. Every single one of those is now used and no one should pay full price for them.
You know what’s interesting? Split Fiction appears to be a legitimate success. It’s obviously feminist as fuck, with two obnoxious millennial female leads and a token straight white male bad guy, and both the sales and CCU are there. So why isn’t leftist media laser focused on this rare diversity win? Why are they obsessed with gaslighting everyone about these obvious flops?
It reminds me of a similar pattern with police brutality. Whenever there’s clear police abuse, the left doesn’t really care. Because almost no one is defending the cops in those cases, so there’s no strife. Instead, the left shows up in force whenever the cops are in the right. It’s like leftists only care about moving the Overton window. An actually good woke game? Leftists sleep. A woke bomb? Leftists prevaricate and dissemble as if their lives are at stake.
There was an interesting post from Scott Alexander about this from the long long ago, about how bad cases provide higher signaling value. As you say, when the police are being legit evil, it's not worth complaining about because everyone agrees with you. Only a TRUE BELIEVER will argue for the release of triple-murder-rape home invader illiterate crackhead dindus.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/
I've said the same thing. They're tolerancemaxxing.
It has a wide-sweeping effect, though.
The point of games like Veilguard, Dustborn, and AC Shadows is -- as you noted -- to push the overton window. They are so extremely Left that when someone who used to be centre makes a moderately Left game, everyone jumps on it with glee.
This two-pronged attack is quite successful. Forspoken sank so Baldur's Gate 3 could swim.
Think about the amount of people ragging on AC Shadows but gleefully swallowing the Kingdom Come 2 goyslop with gay Henry.
Force-feeding the Veilguards and Concords onto the market also forces those centre and centre-Right to creep over to the Left.
For example, before Split Fiction, think about the games Josef Fares made previously. Did they star two females? Were they overtly feminist?
A lot of times the reaction from studios who aren't full-blown woke is to move a little bit to the Left so they don't get accused of being "racist, homophobic, antisemitic", etc. People lap it up because a previously wholesome franchise that adds a little bit of Liberal Progressivism isn't considered that bad because people are saying, "Well, at least it's not Dustborn/Forspoken/Veilguard".
Think about how many so-called anti-woke YouTube channels have come out of the woodwork to defend Kingdom Come 2's gayness?
The amount of channels I see constantly throwing up the "We have no problem with faggotry! Faggotry is fine! We just don't like this particular messaging of faggotry!" is quite telling.
At this rate, we can expect in a few years for those same anti-woke channels to start throwing up "We have no problem with faggotry or transgenderism, we just don't like this particular messaging of trangenderism!"
And a few years after that, replace transgenderism with pedophilia...
I have patience. Just like with Veilguard, I can wait a few months before they admit it was all propaganda, and it was a colossal failure.
I'm in no hurry. No one's opinion really matters; facts matter. People can say it was a massive success, and there's no point arguing. I'll just wait a while, and then laugh at everyone when, once again, the Conspiracy Theorist Wrongthinkers were completely correct.
They won't ever admit it except in a quiet earnings call with shareholders explaining why they need to accept a buyout from Tencent. "We heavily invested in what we thought was a slam dunk but players just aren't playing games any more. It can't be helped there's nothing anyone could have done differently."
Batting 1,000 since at least 2014.
I mean just looking at the charts on steam shows it didn't even get close to veilguard numbers.
"Playercount" obsession has been a growing issue in gaming for a while.
From both ends of the spectrum. As in "oh no no no the single player game doesn't have 100k players anymore after two months! FLOP SHAZAM FLOP!!!" all the way to "it has 2 million players, its a massive success because the console numbers make that 10 million that number is huge!!"
And of course, gaming companies made note of it. That's why they obsessively do posts like that about their "huge milestone" of players for every release, to try and get people with that FOMO.
Its always worth remembering that 5 million sales was the goal for EA with Dead Space 3, which they considered a "passable number" for a single player game with MTX. And that was over a decade ago when the industry was a fraction of its current size and budgets for games were even smaller than that.
So for a 2025 mainstream AAA title with full MTX and battlepass, massive marketing and many delays, the necessary player number for it to be a success is probably in the 8 figure range.
From the perspective of a customer, sales numbers are irrelevant for the most part. In fact if a game is good, flopping is good for you since it means you'll be able to buy it cheap. The only thing you can really say is you want games you like to sell well so they get sequels, but sequels have no guarantee of quality anyway (e.g. Dragon Age).
What's super strange is how emotional the left gets about this shit, like trannies on streams crying over Concord flopping. FFS. Who cares? It doesn't affect you in the least.
Its useful in the sense of "can I expect a lot of people online" if it has multiplayer or, as you said, a vague use in "is there a chance of a sequel?" But that's the literal only use it has for you as the consumer.
Also this plague unfortunately effects more than just the Left. Most video game forums of any type get way too obsessive about these numbers, treating them as some sort of gospel about the quality and value of the game.
The Concord thing I 100% believe was them being more upset that "the Chuds won" than any actual care about the game. They weren't ever going to play it, but its failure is a huge blow to their control of the industry and convincing companies to make games Woker.
They can lie. The layoffs in 2 months will tell the truth
this is why they hate steam and the ability of people to see how many people play on steam.
if people can see way less than 100k (my latest info before the weekend) on steam people ask themselves where the other numbers are coming from.
Can you old geezers like me imagine the memes of Disney movies on the shelf for rental if Blockbuster were still around?
Snow White is the bestest Movie evah - Photo of 2 full shelves full of rentals. It’d be like ET 2600 all over again!
It's crazy how far Ubisoft is willing to go to deceive investors and gamers.
You be soft, Ubisoft.
They couldve done an afro samurai game.. hell even get samuel jackson to promote it. If they gonna go with japanese girls getting blacked, might as well be cool, masculine non faggoty black dude.
Also with RZA doing new ost.
Fury in my eyes, Sword at my side. Escape death to become immortalized. Afro on my head, im the black samurai.