They said the samething about the Xbox "hamburger" controller but it was fine by me. The N64 controller has always been the weird one to me. Additionally I like the NES controller but maybe make a bigger adult sized one.
The original Duke Xbox was absolutely far too large for most people. It didn't last long for a reason and the followup was rather good, with the 360 after it still being probably the peak controller of all time.
For me, the Switch Joycons are a constant reminder that the Japanese are not full grown adults if they consider the size of those acceptable for human hands. Even pro controllers feel too small, with my hands absolutely crushing the thing.
Every single official form, version, and grip I've found is still far too small. The buttons are so tiny and cramped I hit multiple at once and my fist almost closes around it.
I know I'm on the upper side of hand size so that's more of a me problem than Nintendo's, but its very annoying that I need to use entirely 3rd party hardware that is basically either a 360 controller or a SNES controller that works on switch.
N64 only makes sense if it wasn’t intended to all be used at once. Either your left hand goes in the middle with the joystick or the far left with the D-pad.
in fact, turok had a rather novel approach where you could switch to a 'left-handed' mode that used the thumb stick and the dpad instead of the buttons.
This was always stated in the manual for the N64 itself.
Am I really the only one here who read those?
It was designed to be held one of three different ways: middle and right, left and right, or (I can't think of a single game that tried this) left and middle.
It was clear as day to me, from day one in 1996, because I read the manual.
That is exactly how it works. There were very few games that actually made use of the d-pad but they were out there. I distinctly remember having to make use of the d-pad for one level in Mischief Makers because your thrusters were actually marginally slower when using the c buttons vs double tapping on the d-pad. I just figured I wasn't pressing fast enough and got a madcatz controller to automate the button pressing, but when that didn't work I was floored and eventually puzzled it out or read something online. I forget which, it's been a while.
no, granted I got mine used ten years after the fact, but i had all that and the tv adapter, lmao, and a nice carrying case. (found it at a thift store)
Some day, some wonderfully cursed day your bad habits are going to catch up with you, and your fingers are going to start twitching sideways, uncontrollably - like a metronome on crack.
When (not if) it happens, DON'T PANIC! It will (mostly) go away, but only if you stop gaming (or even clicking on a fucking mouse) for several days...
is that what that shit is? christ, i've been having random muscle twitches in my fingers for years... do you know how many times I doubleclicked when I meant to single click on something, or worse, hit a key on the keyboard when i meant to only hit it once? lmao.
besides, it's the dpad thumb, not the jump button thumb, lmao.
In this case, it's probably not from repetition, but from pressing too hard at too wide an angle for too long. Gotta change up your hand posture a little bit while you're playing.
what's weird is I have relatively small, stubby-fingered hands (i'm only 5'8" if that tells you anything), and the duke gave me fewer hand cramps than a PS2 controller.
for all of the grief I have towards sony, the ps5 controller i use for pc gaming is pretty good too, a nice balance between the duke and the dualshock 2.
The Sega Genesis controller was never made for human hands.
They said the samething about the Xbox "hamburger" controller but it was fine by me. The N64 controller has always been the weird one to me. Additionally I like the NES controller but maybe make a bigger adult sized one.
The original Duke Xbox was absolutely far too large for most people. It didn't last long for a reason and the followup was rather good, with the 360 after it still being probably the peak controller of all time.
For me, the Switch Joycons are a constant reminder that the Japanese are not full grown adults if they consider the size of those acceptable for human hands. Even pro controllers feel too small, with my hands absolutely crushing the thing.
The joycons aren't too bad if you use the controller grips.
Every single official form, version, and grip I've found is still far too small. The buttons are so tiny and cramped I hit multiple at once and my fist almost closes around it.
I know I'm on the upper side of hand size so that's more of a me problem than Nintendo's, but its very annoying that I need to use entirely 3rd party hardware that is basically either a 360 controller or a SNES controller that works on switch.
N64 only makes sense if it wasn’t intended to all be used at once. Either your left hand goes in the middle with the joystick or the far left with the D-pad.
pretty much.
in fact, turok had a rather novel approach where you could switch to a 'left-handed' mode that used the thumb stick and the dpad instead of the buttons.
This was always stated in the manual for the N64 itself.
Am I really the only one here who read those?
It was designed to be held one of three different ways: middle and right, left and right, or (I can't think of a single game that tried this) left and middle.
It was clear as day to me, from day one in 1996, because I read the manual.
No, it's in the manual. It's even in the advertising.
But in the center of the gamepad, my hands were too close together and it didn't feel comfortable.
So I just reached across the whole thing.
My hands are pretty large, to the point the original Xbox controller, the "Duke," fits them perfectly.
I never had an issue with the N64 controller.
Your hands must be Shaq-level huge.
No, just lots of stretching, and I'm probably not holding the N64 controller right. I mostly cup my left-hand's fingers.
That is exactly how it works. There were very few games that actually made use of the d-pad but they were out there. I distinctly remember having to make use of the d-pad for one level in Mischief Makers because your thrusters were actually marginally slower when using the c buttons vs double tapping on the d-pad. I just figured I wasn't pressing fast enough and got a madcatz controller to automate the button pressing, but when that didn't work I was floored and eventually puzzled it out or read something online. I forget which, it's been a while.
Mischief Makers kicked ALL the ass, and it's a shame it's never been re-released.
Fantastic intro and credits themes too.
No, that's fine. I'm just going to stretch my left thumb out what feels like the 8 feet of distance I need to cover to get to the center stick
why does my hand hurt?
Ah shit.
lol, i liked it, but I'm using a ps5 controller.
the dpad is truly tortuous in old games, lmao.
sixteen bit.
...and the screen is your biggest enemy, but not for the reason you think.
it murders the batteries...
Yeah after a month or 2 mom needed to buy me the AC adapter because that bad boy went thru batteries like Zoe Quinn thru dicks
just imagine how great that thing woulda been at the time if lipo batteries had existed. fucker woulda flew off the shelves...
Forget the GameGear. Imagine the Nomad if lipo batteries.
...dude, stop
Am I the only person out there who had both a wall adapter and one to plug into the cigarette lighter for long car rides?
no, granted I got mine used ten years after the fact, but i had all that and the tv adapter, lmao, and a nice carrying case. (found it at a thift store)
That stupid Antlion Badnik boss was impossible as a kid. The game is lucky Underground Zone's theme is such a bop, because nobody ever gets past it.
I dunno man, I've still got the callus from the original Mario Party...
The one in your palm from those joystick rotations?
Ah, I see you were also afflicted.
I recently picked up Monster Hunter World and the rotation for shaking off stun is giving me flashbacks.
haven't played a sixteen bit game in ages, lol.
Some day, some wonderfully cursed day your bad habits are going to catch up with you, and your fingers are going to start twitching sideways, uncontrollably - like a metronome on crack.
When (not if) it happens, DON'T PANIC! It will (mostly) go away, but only if you stop gaming (or even clicking on a fucking mouse) for several days...
is that what that shit is? christ, i've been having random muscle twitches in my fingers for years... do you know how many times I doubleclicked when I meant to single click on something, or worse, hit a key on the keyboard when i meant to only hit it once? lmao.
besides, it's the dpad thumb, not the jump button thumb, lmao.
In this case, it's probably not from repetition, but from pressing too hard at too wide an angle for too long. Gotta change up your hand posture a little bit while you're playing.
no doubt, lol. it's a bad habit i've struggled to break for years, lmao.
You are making me want to get a classic machine and play something
gah, tell me about it... I'm using retroarch with a ps5 controller...it just aint the same...heck, even an n64 controller would be closer...
You don't need that, just buy the new Dragon Age game and enjoy lectures about pronouns- hours of fun for all!
Ha! To think they actually thought it was a good idea
The SNES gave me callouses from button presses, but it was still the most ergonomic controller until the Xbox.
for all the grief it got the duke was incredibly comfortable to hold...
I think it depended on the size of your hand. That thing was way too big for me. But I know a lot of people who miss it.
what's weird is I have relatively small, stubby-fingered hands (i'm only 5'8" if that tells you anything), and the duke gave me fewer hand cramps than a PS2 controller.
for all of the grief I have towards sony, the ps5 controller i use for pc gaming is pretty good too, a nice balance between the duke and the dualshock 2.
It's brutal if you don't have all the gems
doesn't help on death egg zone, though, lol. no rings