You mean the George H.W. That sold the weapons used to invade Kuwait? Funny how “historians” do very little actual history over selective conjecture. Remember when “historians” tried dragging Jefferson through the mud claiming he fornicated with slaves?
What was amazing to me was that there wasn’t massive immediate pushback considering it was like 6 of 7 prominent historians that said no evidence but all it takes is one communist and the media and then we have “Jefferson slave fucker” as a running trope for decades.
Stuff like this is very important and one of the many reasons why Vance is killing it right now. So many midwit normies would be taken in by the bullshit in the tweet he's responding to, but he systematically disassembled it in spectacular fashion. Now his response has way more views than the original tweet.
Need to start talking about the Master Narrative and how it was and is constructed. How many Americans know that HW ran the CIA? How many of them know what a “client state” is? The answer to Bush’s response lies in there.
Most Americans don't even know a thing about HW, let alone his actions. He is from "the before time" in modern discourse and that leaves him entirely up in the air for any media narratives.
honestly, i feel like ninety percent of the nations the u.s. is involved with, especially the ones in the middle east, are vassal states in all but name...
Agreed. The House of Saud is an old line ruling family and Saudi Arabia would be a client state, but the rest that are under our umbrella are better called vassal states. I think Iran would have been a client state until Ayatollah came in. You know, when one country calls you Great Satan they might just be an asshole, but when 77 countries call you Great Satan and you look into the teachings of the Ayatollah, contrary to what the news said, he isn't entirely wrong.
I wasn't excited about him as vp but he really has shown amazing capability in handling the leftist nonsense with clear, concise, easy to digest logic for the average person.
Having X as a platform also helps. When the VP can directly counter bullshit in near real-time (instead of relying on the MSM to bless him with a two minute segment they talk over anyway), the Narrative the left is pushing can't survive
Vance might be “him”. I think he’s putting a serious target on his back here. Between this and his speech to the euro leaders, they must realize that he’s a greater threat than Trump, long term.
Semi-related note: I’m very curious to see whom Barron marries. Trump gave Ivanka to the tribe. Vance married an Indian. Imagine the number of interest groups endeavoring to pair one of their own with the son of the god emperor. No wonder Trump and Melanie keep him firmly out of the degenerate college life.
Still not comfortable with the Thiel sponsorship but yeah, Vance has been more than I ever could've asked for.
Imagine the number of interest groups endeavoring to pair one of their own with the son of the god emperor. No wonder Trump and Melanie keep him firmly out of the degenerate college life.
Women with pointy black hats and cloaks seen hovering around Barron
nah, he's not that guy. that guy wouldn't marry an indian or be part of an israel-first administration. a fancy little speech about how them euros are doing it wrong (while a White man saying a word in the wrong city in the US will get shot and killed on the spot) doesn't change a thing.
We must also not be swayed by mere words. Truly, if that were the test every politician would've passed it, as they continually promise us the world while screwing us over.
And, to fix a problem, you must reverse the impetus which caused it in the first place. Half measures and milquetoast compromises with truth do not lead to success or victory. It's not a no true Scotsman to demand adherence to truth, not just in belief and words, but in actions and behaviors. By your fruit you shall know them. If a man expressed the truth in word and belief, but does not follow the truth in his daily life, through his actions and behaviors, then he's a hypocrite and liar, and should not be trusted. This has been true of all people, all politicians, all leaders, since the beginning of time. It remains true, and will always be true. To sway from its lesson and warning, thinking you know better, to claim "that person is different", is to invite disaster. When we're already in the midst of disaster and trying to climb our way out, repeating the same mistake only leads to more disaster.
Vance is 40 years old. He has a lot of runway in front of him. Early indications are that he's hiding at least some of his power level, but that could just as easily be a deliberate mirage. We won't really know for sure until/unless he becomes president. The Indian wife and kids are an obvious red flag, but he seems to be on the right side of the H-1B divide. I guess we'll all find out together.
My money is still on Barron eventually becoming the chosen one, but sometimes these things happen out of order or unexpectedly.
From what I'm hearing from my Euro mates, Vance might've got the ure of the establishment in Europe but he's getting a growing respect from the non NPC population there thanks to calling out the bullshit there.
Between cutting off the propaganda funding to threatening tarrifs, Trump might make enough of an impact in his term to cripple the establishment there (German elections will be a good litmus test)
Then 2028 Vance with a nicely purged American establishment called carry on his work and start getting purges started in Europe.
I'm really excited to see what is going to happen after about a year of the propaganda dial being turned way down. So many of these outlets are going to collapse.
Hell, given govt salaries, I don't see why that would be a problem...they could even write it off as a work expense if it's absolutely vital to their role...assuming trump keeps the IRS a while longer anyway...
With the rumours ACTUALLY happen and Trump shuts down the IRS even if its to replace it with an ERS (external revenue), Vance presidency confirmed till 2032 only cause they can't vote in Trump again.
The majority of normies HATE the IRS and they would isolate and disown their TDS friends and relatives if it means Trump shuts the IRS down forever.
Vance's speech wasn't directed at the assembly. It was directed at the suppressed native peoples of Europe. He was imploring them to overthrow their corrupt and hateful leaders, and those leaders got the message, too.
When Bush went to war with Iraq, the same people praising it now called him a war monger, claimed it was "just for oil", that our soldiers would lose to the Republican Guard of Iraq, that it would be another Vietnam and it showed our failures at diplomacy.
Now that laud that as an example of good leadership. Amazing.
"This will not stand. This will not stand, this aggression against Kuwait."--George H.W. Bush on August 5, 1990. Full quote from Jon Meacham's biography. Future history students will be asked why this stopped being the reaction of a Republican president to the invasion of a sovereign state by a dictator.
They have to specify "by a dIcTaToR" because otherwise the Republican president would have been the invader of the sovereign state.
Actually sovereign state, not "sovereign" like Ukraine is being governed from the State Department.
The Iraqi invasion scared the living shit out of the Saudis as they knew they would not be able to stop anything themselves as their armed forces are a joke.
Without the U.S. intervening Saddam Hussein could have rolled into Riyadh if he had decided to just keep going.
They called in their marker with the Bush family and here we are.
Russia: The population is approximately 146 million people.
Ukraine: The population is approximately 36 million people.
He is 100% right, the numbers alone make it an unwinnable war and a continued drain on the USAs resources for no reason. Russia has no problem sending wave after wave of their citizens into combat for the purpose of winning war. See: WWII
Don't forget that the Iraqi government asked the American ambassador about what the US position to an invasion was and the ambassador gave a non answer which they thought was a go ahead.
neither Europe, nor the Biden administration, nor the Ukrainians had any pathway to victory
I'm not sure if this is meant to mean "they had no plan that could work" or "there was no possible way to win". Victory was definitely possible, but the war has been incredibly mishandled by bean counters and micromanagers from washington. To the point where it seems like the goal was to kill as many people on both sides as possible.
From the outset, there are only two levels of military aid that make sense: zero, or whatever it takes. Instead they chose a slow trickle of increasing range and capability that allowed the russians to adapt and grind it out through the casualties. Not allowing strikes inside russian territory is just comical. They even had weird press conferences where they were hinting that they wanted ukraine to disobey that guideline but couldn't say it - it's like the whole thing was being run by a female erotic fantasy author.
Then there's europe who's all gung ho except for any meaningful materiel. France and UK gave a few hundred stormshadow/scalp cruise missiles and they worked - so are you going to make 10,000 more to win the war that you claim is so important? No? So wtf was the point of the hundred? Just kill some people I guess? Korn will be pleased.
I think he means this. Which is obviously true to for anyone with more than one brain cell. I buy the argument that Ukraine was given just enough support to continue fighting, but never to win. That allowed the endless war coffers to open up to the various western defense contractors who've been jonesing ever since GWOT faded away.
Vance was anti-Trump and anti-MAGA for the duration of Trump’s first term, basically a typical leftist. Straight out of Yale law, for some reason Larry Ellison tapped Vance to work in silicone valley at oracle, which is most definitely a CIA front, along with Palantir which Larry almost acquired a few years before. Why was a law student being brought in to oracke as a venture capitalist? Skull and Bones privileges? Larry the jew faggot Ellison is a huge funder for Trump, Ellison told Trump to tap JD as his vice president and immediately Vance’s positions changed on everything. It’s all a big game, politicians are just puppet actors, none of these guys have your interests in mind, that much is certain.
Yeah I stand corrected, Vance was working for Peter Thiel at Mithril Capital. Without Thiel’s massive campaign contributions, Vance wouldn’t have become a senator, let alone VP….Thiel is good buddies with Ellison and Musk, and they all donated loads of cash to Trump, so they basically made sure Thiel’s puppet JD Vance became VP….However you slice it, it’s all fake and gay. These people aren’t who they pretend to be publicly, they support whatever is best for their bank account, they buy, and sometimes create political puppets (like Vance) who will be beneficial to them later on, their politics can make an about face overnight and then we just pretend they were patriotic Americans all along….it’s all bullshit. Shit, man, even Trump was a lifelong Democrat until shortly before his first run for the presidency.
You mean the George H.W. That sold the weapons used to invade Kuwait? Funny how “historians” do very little actual history over selective conjecture. Remember when “historians” tried dragging Jefferson through the mud claiming he fornicated with slaves?
Isn't it amazing how little you hear about Jefferson's brother, who probably is the one who diddled Sally Hemmings.
What was amazing to me was that there wasn’t massive immediate pushback considering it was like 6 of 7 prominent historians that said no evidence but all it takes is one communist and the media and then we have “Jefferson slave fucker” as a running trope for decades.
Anything to smear the founding fathers in an effort to destroy the Constitution
THE CONSTITUTION IS AN ILLEGITIMATE DOCUMENT BECAUSE NO BIPOC TRANSGENDER WOMEN WERE INVOLVED IN DRAFTING IT.
Diversely and Inclusively put. Well said
The Constitution is long dead at this point regardless. They are just dragging it's corpse out for show trials now.
Stuff like this is very important and one of the many reasons why Vance is killing it right now. So many midwit normies would be taken in by the bullshit in the tweet he's responding to, but he systematically disassembled it in spectacular fashion. Now his response has way more views than the original tweet.
Need to start talking about the Master Narrative and how it was and is constructed. How many Americans know that HW ran the CIA? How many of them know what a “client state” is? The answer to Bush’s response lies in there.
Most Americans don't even know a thing about HW, let alone his actions. He is from "the before time" in modern discourse and that leaves him entirely up in the air for any media narratives.
is that anything like a vassal state?
Yes, in fact for a country the size of Kuwait vassal state is probably a better descriptor.
honestly, i feel like ninety percent of the nations the u.s. is involved with, especially the ones in the middle east, are vassal states in all but name...
Agreed. The House of Saud is an old line ruling family and Saudi Arabia would be a client state, but the rest that are under our umbrella are better called vassal states. I think Iran would have been a client state until Ayatollah came in. You know, when one country calls you Great Satan they might just be an asshole, but when 77 countries call you Great Satan and you look into the teachings of the Ayatollah, contrary to what the news said, he isn't entirely wrong.
and with all the funding going to faggotry
I wasn't excited about him as vp but he really has shown amazing capability in handling the leftist nonsense with clear, concise, easy to digest logic for the average person.
Having X as a platform also helps. When the VP can directly counter bullshit in near real-time (instead of relying on the MSM to bless him with a two minute segment they talk over anyway), the Narrative the left is pushing can't survive
Vance might be “him”. I think he’s putting a serious target on his back here. Between this and his speech to the euro leaders, they must realize that he’s a greater threat than Trump, long term.
Semi-related note: I’m very curious to see whom Barron marries. Trump gave Ivanka to the tribe. Vance married an Indian. Imagine the number of interest groups endeavoring to pair one of their own with the son of the god emperor. No wonder Trump and Melanie keep him firmly out of the degenerate college life.
Still not comfortable with the Thiel sponsorship but yeah, Vance has been more than I ever could've asked for.
Women with pointy black hats and cloaks seen hovering around Barron
nah, he's not that guy. that guy wouldn't marry an indian or be part of an israel-first administration. a fancy little speech about how them euros are doing it wrong (while a White man saying a word in the wrong city in the US will get shot and killed on the spot) doesn't change a thing.
We can't "true Scotsman" everyone until Enoch Powell shows up.
We must also not be swayed by mere words. Truly, if that were the test every politician would've passed it, as they continually promise us the world while screwing us over.
And, to fix a problem, you must reverse the impetus which caused it in the first place. Half measures and milquetoast compromises with truth do not lead to success or victory. It's not a no true Scotsman to demand adherence to truth, not just in belief and words, but in actions and behaviors. By your fruit you shall know them. If a man expressed the truth in word and belief, but does not follow the truth in his daily life, through his actions and behaviors, then he's a hypocrite and liar, and should not be trusted. This has been true of all people, all politicians, all leaders, since the beginning of time. It remains true, and will always be true. To sway from its lesson and warning, thinking you know better, to claim "that person is different", is to invite disaster. When we're already in the midst of disaster and trying to climb our way out, repeating the same mistake only leads to more disaster.
Good argument, I'm swayed
Vance is 40 years old. He has a lot of runway in front of him. Early indications are that he's hiding at least some of his power level, but that could just as easily be a deliberate mirage. We won't really know for sure until/unless he becomes president. The Indian wife and kids are an obvious red flag, but he seems to be on the right side of the H-1B divide. I guess we'll all find out together.
My money is still on Barron eventually becoming the chosen one, but sometimes these things happen out of order or unexpectedly.
"The one" has one ball and has his cousin pee on him?
I'd be shocked if Barron didn't marry a Jew.
From what I'm hearing from my Euro mates, Vance might've got the ure of the establishment in Europe but he's getting a growing respect from the non NPC population there thanks to calling out the bullshit there.
Between cutting off the propaganda funding to threatening tarrifs, Trump might make enough of an impact in his term to cripple the establishment there (German elections will be a good litmus test)
Then 2028 Vance with a nicely purged American establishment called carry on his work and start getting purges started in Europe.
I'm really excited to see what is going to happen after about a year of the propaganda dial being turned way down. So many of these outlets are going to collapse.
Rubbing salt into the wound, Trump cancelled ALL state subscriptions to media papers so if you want a newspaper, buy it yourself lol.
Saw that. I wonder how much subscription and advertising money the government has spent on ideological subversion of US citizens.
Hell, given govt salaries, I don't see why that would be a problem...they could even write it off as a work expense if it's absolutely vital to their role...assuming trump keeps the IRS a while longer anyway...
With the rumours ACTUALLY happen and Trump shuts down the IRS even if its to replace it with an ERS (external revenue), Vance presidency confirmed till 2032 only cause they can't vote in Trump again.
The majority of normies HATE the IRS and they would isolate and disown their TDS friends and relatives if it means Trump shuts the IRS down forever.
...i don't know anyone who doesn't hate the infernal revenue service, normie or otherwise...
Vance's speech wasn't directed at the assembly. It was directed at the suppressed native peoples of Europe. He was imploring them to overthrow their corrupt and hateful leaders, and those leaders got the message, too.
When Bush went to war with Iraq, the same people praising it now called him a war monger, claimed it was "just for oil", that our soldiers would lose to the Republican Guard of Iraq, that it would be another Vietnam and it showed our failures at diplomacy.
Now that laud that as an example of good leadership. Amazing.
ironically, the only thing they got wrong was the part about iraq's 'republican' guard, which makes it even more insane...
True, they surrendered almost immediately.
They have to specify "by a dIcTaToR" because otherwise the Republican president would have been the invader of the sovereign state.
Actually sovereign state, not "sovereign" like Ukraine is being governed from the State Department.
That's an important point. Iraq is a massive elephant in the room
where are their moralistic outcries to get involved with Venezuela's invasions? with Israel's?
Ah, yes, let's do another Gulf War, that was great.
These people are stupid and ridiculous.
They always learn the near opposite lessons from history, too. Because they're wrong, and so look for the wrong messages to prove they're correct.
The leftist 180 on everything is stellar. “We have always been in favor of Middle Eastern oil wars!”
Bush didn't give two shits about Kuwait.
The Iraqi invasion scared the living shit out of the Saudis as they knew they would not be able to stop anything themselves as their armed forces are a joke.
Without the U.S. intervening Saddam Hussein could have rolled into Riyadh if he had decided to just keep going.
They called in their marker with the Bush family and here we are.
Where were these people during the Georgia war?
Russia: The population is approximately 146 million people.
Ukraine: The population is approximately 36 million people.
He is 100% right, the numbers alone make it an unwinnable war and a continued drain on the USAs resources for no reason. Russia has no problem sending wave after wave of their citizens into combat for the purpose of winning war. See: WWII
Don't forget that the Iraqi government asked the American ambassador about what the US position to an invasion was and the ambassador gave a non answer which they thought was a go ahead.
I'm not sure if this is meant to mean "they had no plan that could work" or "there was no possible way to win". Victory was definitely possible, but the war has been incredibly mishandled by bean counters and micromanagers from washington. To the point where it seems like the goal was to kill as many people on both sides as possible.
From the outset, there are only two levels of military aid that make sense: zero, or whatever it takes. Instead they chose a slow trickle of increasing range and capability that allowed the russians to adapt and grind it out through the casualties. Not allowing strikes inside russian territory is just comical. They even had weird press conferences where they were hinting that they wanted ukraine to disobey that guideline but couldn't say it - it's like the whole thing was being run by a female erotic fantasy author.
Then there's europe who's all gung ho except for any meaningful materiel. France and UK gave a few hundred stormshadow/scalp cruise missiles and they worked - so are you going to make 10,000 more to win the war that you claim is so important? No? So wtf was the point of the hundred? Just kill some people I guess? Korn will be pleased.
I think he means this. Which is obviously true to for anyone with more than one brain cell. I buy the argument that Ukraine was given just enough support to continue fighting, but never to win. That allowed the endless war coffers to open up to the various western defense contractors who've been jonesing ever since GWOT faded away.
Vance was anti-Trump and anti-MAGA for the duration of Trump’s first term, basically a typical leftist. Straight out of Yale law, for some reason Larry Ellison tapped Vance to work in silicone valley at oracle, which is most definitely a CIA front, along with Palantir which Larry almost acquired a few years before. Why was a law student being brought in to oracke as a venture capitalist? Skull and Bones privileges? Larry the jew faggot Ellison is a huge funder for Trump, Ellison told Trump to tap JD as his vice president and immediately Vance’s positions changed on everything. It’s all a big game, politicians are just puppet actors, none of these guys have your interests in mind, that much is certain.
Vance never worked for Ellison, never worked at Oracle, what the fuck are you going on about?
I doubt Vance ever even met Ellison.
Yeah I stand corrected, Vance was working for Peter Thiel at Mithril Capital. Without Thiel’s massive campaign contributions, Vance wouldn’t have become a senator, let alone VP….Thiel is good buddies with Ellison and Musk, and they all donated loads of cash to Trump, so they basically made sure Thiel’s puppet JD Vance became VP….However you slice it, it’s all fake and gay. These people aren’t who they pretend to be publicly, they support whatever is best for their bank account, they buy, and sometimes create political puppets (like Vance) who will be beneficial to them later on, their politics can make an about face overnight and then we just pretend they were patriotic Americans all along….it’s all bullshit. Shit, man, even Trump was a lifelong Democrat until shortly before his first run for the presidency.