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The Boeing 737 MAX’s software was outsourced to India. It all makes sense now (www.industryweek.com)
posted 5 months ago by redman012 5 months ago by redman012 +122 / -1
Boeing's 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers
Mark Rabin, a former software engineer, recalled one manager saying at an all-hands meeting that Boeing didn’t need senior engineers because its products were mature.
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– Vivs3rdSock 48 points 5 months ago +48 / -0

$9 an hour Indian engineers

Spend shit, get shit.

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– undecidedmask2 28 points 5 months ago +28 / -0

Garbage in garbage out.

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– alucard13mmfmj 35 points 5 months ago +35 / -0

Every company outsourced to third world while charging us more.. at the same time ceo and investors make record amount of money... hmmmm.

Something definitely needs to be done.

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– covok48 16 points 5 months ago +16 / -0

Correct. They want to replace White male workers with literally anything else.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 9 points 5 months ago +10 / -1

CEOs are bulletproof, unfortunately.

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– dzonatan 24 points 5 months ago +28 / -4

Luigi proved otherwise.

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– SR388-SAX 1 point 5 months ago +2 / -1

I'm not prepared to make a judgement one way or the other on the United Health CEO assassination.

But I will say that 'justice' and 'legal' are not synonymous. Particularly when we're living in a nation run by a government bureaucracy built on lies.

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– realerfunction 2 points 5 months ago +2 / -0

i'd wager near 90% of the government we labor under is wholly illegitimate and unconstitutional.

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– deleted 1 point 5 months ago +1 / -0
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– NotCreativeName 16 points 5 months ago +17 / -1

No, people should realise every single piece of shit CEO/globohomo grifter has a name and address. Luigi already proved that

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– deleted 0 points 5 months ago +1 / -1
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– covok48 4 points 5 months ago +5 / -1

Heh.

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– Chillin_in_PNW 30 points 5 months ago +30 / -0

You might as well just ask ChatGPT to write some code to make the flappy thing on a plane go up and down because thats the kind of quality you're gonna get.

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– covok48 13 points 5 months ago +13 / -0

That’s the idea, actually.

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– Shill4Hire 4 points 5 months ago +4 / -0

Isn't ChatGPT just Indians in a wageslave center anyways? Or was that some other AI's controversy?

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– Grumman 12 points 5 months ago +12 / -0

IIRC that was a cashierless store that used ActuallyIndians to tally your purchases as you put them in your cart.

Edit: Apparently it wasn't quite that bad - it was AI with humans double-checking everything, but the AI was apparently bad enough at its job that they abandoned the idea in favour of attaching the checkout scanner to the trolley.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 23 points 5 months ago +23 / -0

What's the current college cope now that even STEM degrees aren't safe from the browns taking over?

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– NotCreativeName 17 points 5 months ago +17 / -0

At the outsourcing firm I work at(in Romania, another country where the majority of software companies are outsourcing firms) the cope was that clients leaving us for Indians will come back to us in a year or 2 to use us as overpaid jannies to clean up the mess left by them(and some of our clients did exactly that at least a few years ago).

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– tappydans 15 points 5 months ago +15 / -0

I’ve worked with devs all over the world. Something is specifically wrong in India and China. They hire in masses and produce nothing.

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– exarch 20 points 5 months ago +20 / -0

I haven’t worked with Chinese devs but Indians have a culture of faking, scamming, and stealing - I’ve never had a good experience working with them.

When you try to explain to an Indian what you expect him to deliver, he’ll interrupt you to loudly declare “NO PROBLEM, SAR, ITS NO PROBLEM” sometimes even waving his arms. The impression you get is that you just asked a stupid question - like if someone was building you a house and you asked if there would be a front door. “Of course there’ll be a front door you idiot, this isn’t my first house”

But then with Indians you get a house with no front door. Then when you point that out they act like it’s no big deal to add one after the fact. It’s fucking infuriating.

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– ParadigmShift2070 3 points 5 months ago +3 / -0

Saar Saar! there's no front door because you did not say you vanted front door Saar

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– covok48 9 points 5 months ago +9 / -0

We don’t want White Males….EVER - Colleges.

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– GiveThemNothing 19 points 5 months ago +19 / -0

Starting with the 787 Dreamliner, launched in 2004, it sought to increase profits by instead providing high-level specifications and then asking suppliers to design more parts themselves. The thinking was “they’re the experts, you see, and they will take care of all of this stuff for us,”

Typical managerial "thinking", engineers are fungible drones, the real "specifications" come from management.

What you get is 5yo level doodles drawn with crayons, handed down to a thousand $9/hr monkeys banging on keyboards.

What could possibly go wrong???

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– VaiTomaNoCu 1 point 5 months ago +1 / -0

It should be atypical. It's short term profiteering over long term value building and good will generation. This didn't used to be the norm in the aircraft manufacturing business.

It's typical wall street/hollywood thinking.

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– realerfunction 13 points 5 months ago +13 / -0

\DO NOT REDEEM THE ANGLE SENSAAR

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– when_we_win_remember 11 points 5 months ago +11 / -0

You get what you pay for.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 8 points 5 months ago +8 / -0

Things will get worse while it is still racist to question if merit is necessary.

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– redman012 [S] 7 points 5 months ago +7 / -0

Not the MCAS, but a lot of the other software

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– covok48 4 points 5 months ago +4 / -0

Oy Vey! We must invest in AI or we won’t survive!

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– bloodguard 3 points 5 months ago +3 / -0

Probably want to be careful using Tesla's "Supervised" Full Self Driving. Elon laid off a bunch of American workers and replaced them with H-1Bs a few months ago.

If you bring it up on X he wishes your account into the cornfield.

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– deleted 1 point 5 months ago +1 / -0

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