The whole point of a nation is to serve its people. It's not selfish to ask that the nation we fund (at gunpoint, but that's a separate issue) serve our interests. Anything else is slavery.
Legal immigration is fine...as long as it's in numbers that don't push out Americans, of any class.
I don't want low skilled workers coming here and hurting poor Americans. I don't want higher performing workers coming here and hurting middle class Americans, or Americans trying to reach the middle class.
Some legal immigration of those mentioned - hard-working, honest, pro-America - is fine. But we shouldn't be replacing Americans, and we shouldn't be funding and setting up ethnic enclaves.
I want America to win. But Americans need to win, that's the whole point of America winning.
America must win, so her people can win. We've already done enough - both good and bad - for the rest of the world over the last century. It's (well past) time to focus on Americans!
I don't even think he wants his economic zone to win. He personally wants to win. If he thought the best way to do that would be by moving to China he would.
Where did this dialectic/pilpul of America "winning" (or losing) come from anyway? Did Elon start it or just step into it?
For our nation to succeed, the individuals in our country need to be able to succeed and prosper. That's it. Yes we need a successful economy but life isn't a zero sum game we have to "win." Both Chinese and American companies can invest in AI or whatever boom the techbros are concerned about and we'll be fine.
Where did it come from? It’s literally just civic nationalism. The notion that America is an “idea nation”, wholly separate from and in no way responsible to its heritage or people, is the inevitable end point of civnat faggotry. Elevating “paper Americans” over native citizens, treating the country as a purely economic zone with no valid inherent culture of its. Of course rapacious, rootless elites like Musk view America purely in these opportunistic and self-serving terms. Of course Vivek adopts whatever arguments promote the interests of his co-ethnics and the culture of his own homeland. Civic nationalism is to nationalism as social justice is to justice - an inversion, a perversion, intended to destroy a people.
The more I think about it the scarier their narrative frame sounds. It's more an appeal to emotion than an argument from which policy can be based. When do we know we've won? When we win can we stop winning or do we have to win more? It sounds like progressivism. "We must progress forever. Progress to what? Who knows. We must progress. We must win. We must leave the deplorables and backwards thinkers behind and progress forward. We must leave the losers behind to win. We must be on the right side of history. We must be on the winning team."
Sargon is right. Liberalism inevitably leads to leftism.
When the population is 80% White European again and we're bullying other nations into doing what we want them to while also having prosperity for the lower and middle class populations within our society.
We shouldn't accept any immigrants until we have the space to take in more. We're barely able to handle everyone already here; the Texas grid alone nearly collapsed because of demand during a winter storm. And then there's the water shortages...
It's such a fucking stupid, evil stance.
The whole point of a nation is to serve its people. It's not selfish to ask that the nation we fund (at gunpoint, but that's a separate issue) serve our interests. Anything else is slavery.
Legal immigration is fine...as long as it's in numbers that don't push out Americans, of any class.
I don't want low skilled workers coming here and hurting poor Americans. I don't want higher performing workers coming here and hurting middle class Americans, or Americans trying to reach the middle class.
Some legal immigration of those mentioned - hard-working, honest, pro-America - is fine. But we shouldn't be replacing Americans, and we shouldn't be funding and setting up ethnic enclaves.
I want America to win. But Americans need to win, that's the whole point of America winning.
America must win, so her people can win. We've already done enough - both good and bad - for the rest of the world over the last century. It's (well past) time to focus on Americans!
Elon has explicitly compared countries to sports teams. He wants his economic zone to win.
I don't even think he wants his economic zone to win. He personally wants to win. If he thought the best way to do that would be by moving to China he would.
He tried with the Shanghai Gigafactory. Too bad BYD is kicking Tesla's ass.
Both produce hot garbage.
Where did this dialectic/pilpul of America "winning" (or losing) come from anyway? Did Elon start it or just step into it? For our nation to succeed, the individuals in our country need to be able to succeed and prosper. That's it. Yes we need a successful economy but life isn't a zero sum game we have to "win." Both Chinese and American companies can invest in AI or whatever boom the techbros are concerned about and we'll be fine.
Where did it come from? It’s literally just civic nationalism. The notion that America is an “idea nation”, wholly separate from and in no way responsible to its heritage or people, is the inevitable end point of civnat faggotry. Elevating “paper Americans” over native citizens, treating the country as a purely economic zone with no valid inherent culture of its. Of course rapacious, rootless elites like Musk view America purely in these opportunistic and self-serving terms. Of course Vivek adopts whatever arguments promote the interests of his co-ethnics and the culture of his own homeland. Civic nationalism is to nationalism as social justice is to justice - an inversion, a perversion, intended to destroy a people.
The more I think about it the scarier their narrative frame sounds. It's more an appeal to emotion than an argument from which policy can be based. When do we know we've won? When we win can we stop winning or do we have to win more? It sounds like progressivism. "We must progress forever. Progress to what? Who knows. We must progress. We must win. We must leave the deplorables and backwards thinkers behind and progress forward. We must leave the losers behind to win. We must be on the right side of history. We must be on the winning team."
Sargon is right. Liberalism inevitably leads to leftism.
When the population is 80% White European again and we're bullying other nations into doing what we want them to while also having prosperity for the lower and middle class populations within our society.
It comes from the middle class trying to play as Bismark under "The Great Game" of geopolitics.
What is America winning at?
Making our women whores, destroying our men, abortions, faggotry, debt, usury, banking, propaganda, killing White people, supporting Israel, needless wars, and killing foreigners who obstruct globohomo plans.
We shouldn't accept any immigrants until we have the space to take in more. We're barely able to handle everyone already here; the Texas grid alone nearly collapsed because of demand during a winter storm. And then there's the water shortages...
The Texas power grid collapsed because we went all-in on "renewables" instead of what's worked for a century like coal and nuclear.
Source: am Texan, experienced that storm and blackout first-hand.