Itll be like concord. New woke IP has high chance of failure. Even spin offs.
So they have to latch onto existing and beloved ones. The ones so big that they can leech onto for a decade or two.. slowly draining the soul and value out of it until its a husk.
I'd be willing to accept it if you could figure out how to be respectful to the lore and world building. 007 is not James Bond. The new 007 is someone else. Some Tier 1 badass who might go back to James for advice until he becomes his own hero. It's about the legacy of 007, more than James Bond.
The problem is that there is not one single soul in corporate entertainment who is capable of telling this story.
The problem is, that’s gay as shit. While in the books/movies they do occasionally and rarely change which agent has the specific 00 designation, 007 has only ever been Bond.
I think for an agent of his caliber, and the fact he is the best of them, his designation would be retired like a jersey after his death.
It’s so much easier to just say “hey this is Ferdinand Ambiguousrace, aka 005.” Rather than ruining bond
That was Die Another Day, which was the 20th film, and for that, they threw in a bunch of references (Hallie Berry's swimsuit, etc) to older Bond fims, and they also had a Bond car vs Bond car fight, which at the time, was a very requested thing by the fan base. And yes one of them could turn invisible.
I'll tack on to this, the Bond series should be a perpetual 50's and exploration of that world tangent in all things. OF COURSE, that will never happen because perception control is a found basis of their work and any alternative lifestyle with higher propensity of standard of living would be killed off.
But man, what a great series it would've been to enjoy.
Retards dont seem to understand branding and expectations/stereotype. Think of a surfer dude? A buff white male with medium lenght wavy blonde hair, with bilabong shorts and an owen wilson nose.. wait yeah. Looks like owen wilson. Think of a zulu warrior? Probably black, with white or red face paint, straws for a skirt and bone piercings on his face.
People see james bond as scottish/english male. Any deviation hurts the branding or image 99% of the time. Even old versions of the same character hurts it. Old geriatric indiana jones, luke skywalker and sarah connor.
They tried to set this up in No Time to Die and it was fucking insufferable. After all the drama, the release delays, and the awful writing in that movie, they obviously see the writing on the wall and figure the only direction Hollywood is willing to take the franchise is straight down.
It’s amazing how creatively bankrupt these people are. There are more 00 agents besides Bond. If people were creative enough they could make a story about 00whatever and make it a black woman and let her have her own story. Instead they can only use an existing franchise like a skin suit then complain when no one wants to watch their bullshit. This is the result of the toxic positivity culture in schools and workplaces. Where nothing can be challenged only praised. You write some weak ass self insert fan fiction and you will just be lauded for how bold your writing is.
Kingsman 1: Colin Firth vs Westboro Baptist Church was lit. Gave us the Trump version where he murders the fake news companies 😆.
Kingsman 2: Merlin going out in a blaze of glory while singing Country Roads take me home 👍
Kingsman 3: The Rasputin fight. Someone on YouTube took the clip and mashed it with the song Rasputin by Boney M, and holy shit it’s cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoCwNHE4ys
Then what’s the point? Make your own spy series. Reminds me I need to read the Bond books
Itll be like concord. New woke IP has high chance of failure. Even spin offs.
So they have to latch onto existing and beloved ones. The ones so big that they can leech onto for a decade or two.. slowly draining the soul and value out of it until its a husk.
I'd be willing to accept it if you could figure out how to be respectful to the lore and world building. 007 is not James Bond. The new 007 is someone else. Some Tier 1 badass who might go back to James for advice until he becomes his own hero. It's about the legacy of 007, more than James Bond.
The problem is that there is not one single soul in corporate entertainment who is capable of telling this story.
The problem is, that’s gay as shit. While in the books/movies they do occasionally and rarely change which agent has the specific 00 designation, 007 has only ever been Bond.
I think for an agent of his caliber, and the fact he is the best of them, his designation would be retired like a jersey after his death.
It’s so much easier to just say “hey this is Ferdinand Ambiguousrace, aka 005.” Rather than ruining bond
I think it's fair to run with that.
Agreed
They should make an OG Bond set to the 50s. Go full Mad Men and make Bond gritty again.
All Bond stories should be set during the Cold War era.
Even the Brosnan era Bonds are ridiculous to me because the character doesn’t even make sense outside the context of the Cold War.
The Brosnan era turned Bond into a guy with a lot of gadgets. Didn’t one of them have an invisible car or something equally ridiculous?
That was Die Another Day, which was the 20th film, and for that, they threw in a bunch of references (Hallie Berry's swimsuit, etc) to older Bond fims, and they also had a Bond car vs Bond car fight, which at the time, was a very requested thing by the fan base. And yes one of them could turn invisible.
The world is not enough was his best one. I loved the chainsaw helicopter.
Where would they put the black people and the gays? You know, for the modern audience.
I'll tack on to this, the Bond series should be a perpetual 50's and exploration of that world tangent in all things. OF COURSE, that will never happen because perception control is a found basis of their work and any alternative lifestyle with higher propensity of standard of living would be killed off.
But man, what a great series it would've been to enjoy.
James Bond is canonically a heterosexual white man with dark hair. Any portrayal that deviates from this is not James Bond.
Retards dont seem to understand branding and expectations/stereotype. Think of a surfer dude? A buff white male with medium lenght wavy blonde hair, with bilabong shorts and an owen wilson nose.. wait yeah. Looks like owen wilson. Think of a zulu warrior? Probably black, with white or red face paint, straws for a skirt and bone piercings on his face.
People see james bond as scottish/english male. Any deviation hurts the branding or image 99% of the time. Even old versions of the same character hurts it. Old geriatric indiana jones, luke skywalker and sarah connor.
Nobody is going to watch Anthony Mackie James Bond.
You could have just said no one is going to watch Anthony Mackie
I thought "barbara broccoli" was a joke. This is the problem with fiction. Retards owning shit.
The Broccoli family has owned the Bond rights since Dr. No came out in ‘61
Imagine having "Broccoli" as a last name
They tried to set this up in No Time to Die and it was fucking insufferable. After all the drama, the release delays, and the awful writing in that movie, they obviously see the writing on the wall and figure the only direction Hollywood is willing to take the franchise is straight down.
It’s amazing how creatively bankrupt these people are. There are more 00 agents besides Bond. If people were creative enough they could make a story about 00whatever and make it a black woman and let her have her own story. Instead they can only use an existing franchise like a skin suit then complain when no one wants to watch their bullshit. This is the result of the toxic positivity culture in schools and workplaces. Where nothing can be challenged only praised. You write some weak ass self insert fan fiction and you will just be lauded for how bold your writing is.
Didn't one of the other 00 agents show up in one of the movies? It's been so long since I watched them...
There was 006 in Goldeneye. In No Time to Die, Bond had quit and a black woman was the new 007.
They had a meeting in Thunderball of the 00s with M.
Please let the next Bond be gay. I can't wait for the intro scene with what will now just be Magic Mike. The money burned would be amazing.
Magic Mike turned a profit, 7m budget.
Their gay black bond film will have two extra zeros and then some to the budget.
The first and maybe second Kingsman movie (but not the third - peeU) showed you don't need Bond to have a rousing good spy movie.
Tell her to fuck off.
Kingsman 1: Colin Firth vs Westboro Baptist Church was lit. Gave us the Trump version where he murders the fake news companies 😆.
Kingsman 2: Merlin going out in a blaze of glory while singing Country Roads take me home 👍
Kingsman 3: The Rasputin fight. Someone on YouTube took the clip and mashed it with the song Rasputin by Boney M, and holy shit it’s cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoCwNHE4ys