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The guy is visibly alive, so you sedate him and continue trying to harvest his organs, and then quit when you're told "no, don't pull organs out of this living guy"? Disgusting.
Fake news. The original NPR article very clearly says they quit because they ALMOST harvested organs from an alive person and a supervisor was pushing them to go forward with it.
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5113976/organ-transplantion-mistake-brain-dead-surgery-still-alive
Archive: https://archive.ph/hAVw6
edit: typo, alice -> alive, add archive link
Thanks for the info. Glad the employees still had some morals, and that supervisor is a monster.
As is typical of hospital supervisors, like we saw during the kung flu. Human life means nothing to hospital management compared to making money. Hospital supervisors belong on a cross.
I have to point out that the workers were likely locals, (kentucky) so they were appalachian, supervisor prolly wasnt.
If this happened anywhere else, I dont have faith that the people would speak up and stop what is happening.
Im fairly certain this shit is happening on the regular in nova scotia since it became the first opt out organ donation "state/province" in north america. I have no proof of course, but theres so many storys of people getting a brain injury and they get put down the first night.
Didnt we used to give people weeks or months before pulling the plug? lol?
Think im making this up? Two stories off the top of my head.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/system-broken-woman-dies-emergency-room-1.6707596
This article frames it like she died of natural causes....
https://halifax.citynews.ca/2023/01/09/nova-scotia-man-wants-answers-after-wife-dies-following-seven-hour-er-wait-6352502/
They denied this woman timely medical care, and after it nearly killed her, they put the final death blow and reaped her organs, I fucking bet you.
https://globalnews.ca/news/9920010/davelle-desmond-homicide-halifax-waterfront-investigation-friends/
This guy gets assaulted by a group of teens and gets put in a coma. They put him down after a night, and I will bet they asked for his organs but being black hopefully his family knew better. I dont know if it matters really though when its opt out, seems like asking the family is just a formality.
Again the article makes it sound like he died of natural causes.
HOW ARE YOU "brain dead" WITHOUT A PULSE for 30 minutes, would you not be dead dead?
They are harvesting people in this province, and I have no doubts about it. After all they did poison me with freon, cover it up, and now im likely dying from it.
These people are pure evil, make no mistake.
There's more to this particular part. It stuck out to me too. Could it be that certain employees quit in sympathy protest for the guy that they had almost been forced to kill due to doctor's orders? Quitting in anger because they didn't successfully murder him seems incredibly brazen, but I wouldn't put it past doctors and nurses. It's also possible that they quit in fear, not protest, having been rumbled. They could skedaddle for the horizon and get re-hired by any other hospital, since they all do the same thing and the important thing is to cover for the system.
That's fair, and a more hopeful interpretation. Hopefully you are correct, in which case the the wording in the tweet needs to be fixed since it says the cancellation led to the quitting.
Well to be clear I don't hold the sympathetic interpretation as any more likely than pre-emptive quitting in cynical self-interest. Either's possible. And I'm a bad gambler, so watch the truth turn out to be the one about them quitting in anger at being questioned. "You think you hate them enough..."
Bro the shit I've seen working in a hospital. It's a business. And organ procurement organizations are a series of state by state private monopolies that run the organ harvesting business. They will show up with a lawyer or two if necessary and their primary goal is to make money harvesting organs.
If you haven't already I highly recommend you remove yourself from the organ donor registry because they WILL 100% use that little checkbox you checked when you were 16 getting your drivers license at the DMV to override anything else your family says when they can.
Organs are big business, but not for you.
Medical malpractice and pharmaceutical drugs are among the leading causes of death for a reason. Trusting the medical industry is generally a very bad idea.
Seconded. I couldn't remove my name fast enough when doctors started bragging about skipping over recipients for refusing to take the covid vax. The entire system and everyone involved in it is evil. Do not support these demons.
I'm a part of the system tbh. It's weird but I have my red lines
I'm not on it but I expect my organs to be harvested anyway.
I told bmv to remove me. I double checked at the end. New ID still had it.
Get an advanced directive notarized
Can u flesh that out a little please?
It's basically a list of desires should you become unable to make decisions due to bring incapacitated.
Check it out. Outline your wishes and keep a copy and upload it to your doctor
Thx for the response, i need some sort of lawyer so start this?
Probably not. Look it up for your state
My first assumption is they quit because they were told to fucking murder a man because of a horrific failure in procedures, and the post was just poorly worded
But after seeing how many people joined the COVID Gestapo, I guess I don't have enough faith to say with certainty it didn't go down the way you describe without double checking...
There was an article years ago (Newsweek, Rolling Stone, can't remember the publication) where a bunch of doctors admitted that they had pulled organs out of people who were awake enough to react to being cut open. The tone of the article was pretty much "people can be totes dead and still whimper, cry and moan in pain as their body gets cut open and their organs removed!"
One of the reasons I refuse to be an organ donor.
To make matters worse here in Germany the libertarians want to make it easier to declare someone "dead". Right now you have to be brain dead but because that's too expensive and time consuming to determine they want to relax requirements to cardiac death.
The other half of the equation is that they will deliberately make you as ill and doomed as possible before declaring you dead. The UK codified this in the Liverpool Care Pathway for the Dying Patient, which was supposedly abolished but actually just rebranded:
The reality is this protocol is likely in practice all across the western world, because we saw identical stories from multiple countries suggesting that it is systematic practice for doctors to fabricate Do Not Resuscitate orders, then drug patients with morphine and fentanyl until they are 'deemed dying', then use midazolam to help them on their way. Brenda Downs and Grace Schara are examples in the US, the testimonies by scottish families in their covid inquiry, the Isle of Man care home whistleblower, and others all tell the identical story, even separated by seas and oceans. Midazolam Matt in the UK interviewing a doctor about how best to give covid patients 'a good death' then claiming he'd never heard of Midazolam in parliament was another tell.
They have no compunction about deliberately trying to kill you, donor or not. The funny thing is they seem more likely to try it for what could be perceived as easy targets with nobody on their side, such as junkies (the OP here), retards (Grace Schara) and the elderly (millions during covid). My take away is that if you ever have to be admitted to hospital for some reason, try to make it clear by way of jovial anecdotes that you have lots of psycho relatives who hate doctors and might try to burn down hospitals if they ever had a grudge against one.
I agree with you until the end. Do not say this as this can cause you to be separated from your family etc. Maintain cordial relationships with the staff but make sure you have close friends and family that can be your advocate.
Yeah, don't make it clear they're willing to burn the hospital down. Make it casually clear they are paying attention to and keeping records of your treatments, and you all believe fully that lawsuits are a fundamental part of maintaining care standards.
I wouldn't do that is my point. Don't antagonize the staff. Watch them carefully and get involved, ask questions, help etc. Its like calling a front line service rep for a big company and bitching at them, when they can actually help you with the issue by escalating or appealing.
But threatening lawsuits or whatever is a joke. I get patients and family like this all the time and they aren't helping themselves at all. it just makes me not even want to work with them. Some guy was trying to threaten me with a lawsuit the other day and i told him to call a lawyer if he wanted to and walked out and never went back into his room. And the other staff backed me up.
This is self righteous but short sighted.
No no, you don't pre-emptively threaten the lawsuits, you just casually make it clear you're paying attention and will have all the records that would make a lawsuit more of a problem if they cut any corners.
Lol sure do that. We don't care. You'll just piss us off and the reality is the hospital deals with this constantly. Your best bet is to work with the staff as best you can and be vigilant to stop mistakes.
I've heard it all and its like when you get arrested and talk about your rights. The system doesn't care.
Yeah you shouldn't care, that's the point. I feel like you are entirely missing my point.
If you want marginally better care from medical professionals who are already doing their job, be helpful and friendly. And if you want borderline negligent doctors to wake up, be conspicuously observant and inquiring. They're not even mutually exclusive, you can do both at once. It seems you think my advice is walking in the door going "I could sue you!", it's not, its about not having them think they're just working in a bubble with no immediate oversight that lets them fudge the details if they had to justify themselves retroactively.
Only a weird egoist with a god complex would be offended by people watching him work on their family member with a small modicum of concern.
Europe is weird.
'Freedom to die' is a trojan horse ideology that libertarians in every country trip over. The concept of nominally having a pulse but still being a vegetable (or having other terminal issues) raises the concern in people's mind over when they want others to stop fighting on their behalf and just switch them off. Then they naively call for such protocols to be incorporated institutionally, at which point the hostile institutions weaponise their new freedoms.
My least favorite thing about it is it's so fucking weak. It's not suicide if you have to beg the State to let you do it. It's also not suicide if someone else kills you.
These whiny bitches literally begging to give the government the power to "medically" kill you is insane and infuriating. And acting like it's a human rights issue. How pathetic and captured do you have to be to campaign for that?!
Don't get me wrong, I get the argument for "assisted suicide," but I've also seen where it ends up and also, just like abortion, they trot out the incredibly rare exceptions to try to justify the whole scheme. It's not that hard to kill yourself if you want, and most people aren't so bedridden they couldn't do it...especially while having the mental faculties to consent...which, you know, is a sort of important aspect of suicide; it has to be the dying person's choice.
Yet they use this type of scenario to justify sweeping programs...and then immediately open up the gates even further, till you have young people with "depression" opting to let the state kill them...and acting like that's some victory for human rights. I remember when the government ran programs to tell people not to kill yourself. The good ol' days. Now you've got a bunch of sheep who've been programmed to value life so little they're lining up for the slaughter, in some cases.
And, again, the requirements get so weird in some cases a parent can even consent for a child. Yet another step down the 'children are capable of consent because we respect them enough to let them kill themselves, have elective surgery/mutilation, have sex, etc., because we're the Good Guys!' Progressives are sick. Children can't consent. A child having "assisted suicide" is their parent and government murdering them. And that, while still a fringe case, is an almost guarantee with these assisted suicide programs.
Give them an inch...they take
a mileus all straight to Hell.Suicide is suicide. That's at least a potentially merciful action, but as seen from Canada's mass killing program, literally no one else should be involved in the decision or execution of death.
They're as libertarian as Biden is lucid. Literally has nothing in common with what you'd think libertarian would be. TBF every single party but the AfD is the uniparty, they all want more migrants, the big replacement theory is a conspiracy theory but if it was real it's a good thing kinda parties.
Anyway, the libertarian party is a fucking joke, has been a joke for over a decade now and will probably be kicked out of parliament in the next election(all the recent state elections they have lost and got kicked out btw).
Yep, never on the donation list, I don't trust the government not to try and harvest me at ANY opportunity.
In China, prison wardens have the right to arbitrarily increase your sentence, up to and including death, based on your behavior. Every inmate goes through blood and DNA testung during prison intake, and if you're a match for some local Party official who needs a new liver, your behavior suddenly gets a whole lot worse.
ANGEL BEATS IS ORGAN HARVESTING PROPAGANDA
Other than that, it was a good show.
Horrifying… best PSA to get people off drugs too:
Overdose? Whelp, the hospital will harvest your organs even if you are alive and conscious!
After 2020, no one should go to the hospital if they can avoid it.
Make America Healthy Again
Man, I hope so. I think it's great they integrated campaigns like that, and the message is an important one. I hope it amounts to something good. Because we really do need to make America healthy again; it's one of the top problems, and solves a lot of other problems.
Immediately, I am suspicious of these claims and this story.
It wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but it makes me skeptical.
NPR has been wildly unprofessional and political with it's coverage of basically anything.
I took my organ donor status off my license a few years ago due to stories like this.
Tucker Carlson did a really good podcast recently with Charles Camosy a medical ethicist (A good one don't worry) and this was mentioned. Specifically when "Brain Dead" was invented as a term someone originally pointed out it was just done to make organ harvesting more popular and the creators basically went "Um Yup".
Interesting factoid, "brain death" is not an objective term.
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Unless you mean in a fully judicial way