Ranma 1/2 never stood a chance
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Its a manga that has a literal gender transition as its main premise and gag, with its main heroine being an angry raging proto-girlboss who beats any man that tries to woo her and has an army of simps chasing her. That's actual premise before any localization gets involved.
It never stood a chance from the moment people were reminded it existed.
bear in mind that Akane got whooped everytime she and Ranma actually faced off. She beat on him all she wanted until he actually fought back at which point he would stomp all over her.
She has the Krillin situation of being better than every normal person and absolutely useless against any actual character in the cast.
Regardless, he takes an incredible amount of abuse from her throughout the entire series without much fighting back, because he usually gets in trouble for doing so. Its slapstick taken way too far, which is why she is the least popular girl in the harem to a point of having actual Hatedoms.
Well, the Japanese have double-standards in fiction too.
Men getting unnecessarily abused for comedic effect was typical in Takahashi's pre-Rinne works. Actually, I would think that's the case for a lot of shounen/seinen gag manga that have some lewd sprinkled throughout.
Ranma was particularly bad about it with her. And with it being the big named cliched harem series everyone copied it reached its ultimate head with Love Hina was is nearly unwatchable with the extent it goes with Naru.
Its pretty typical across the genre in general, but Akane is one of the examples where its an already extreme case made more blatant because the series is 95% filler and as such she never changes or cuts back on it.
It would be like if in Inuyasha, Kagome continued to use the cursed Sit command for the entire series as much as she does in the initial dozen episodes. As she doesn't, it does seem even Takahashi realized you can't keep that same dynamic going forever, regardless of both series having little other plot development.
I would say that LH is Akamatsu-sensei's worst work, but I haven't read UQ-Holder yet to make that call. (AI was underdeveloped story-wise, Negima was good)
Negima was good, though the cast was a little too large and it felt a lot of them got less time than deserved. I haven't seen his other stuff to have an opinion.
Love Hina is just a particularly egregious thing because of the sheer extreme it goes to with the "man breathes, the girl who 'loves him secretly' breaks his fucking spine." So much so that the only thing seperating it from Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro, a series made to parody that exact thing with over the top violence, is the lack of gore.
And unfortunately the reverberations of Love Hina are still felt in most harems, and plenty of regular shows too. Naruto being a famous example of trying to pull it off with Sakura, but people being so sick of it that they literally bullied the author into picking a different girl in the end.
Hinata is best girl and her relationship with Naruto purified Nanashi's (of Nagatoro fame) pitch-black soul, so it's a net positive.
That was true for Kuno too. In one of the first subplots Ranma pointed out that he was holding back every time he "challenged" her.
Akane lost fights to more talented girls like Shampoo all the time, although she never got beaten down like the guys.
anybody who has actually read the manga or even watched the anime knows that one of the central plot points is that Akane isn't actually that good, and is probably the weakest of the main cast. It's an important plot point because her father wants a strong martial artists to inherit the school, thus the arranged marriage. She spends the whole show looking to improve enough to overcome Ranma and others but is never really able to.
Wanna make a bet in a remake she will be the god-queen of martial arts?
That sounds like the insane and out of touch dream every tranny has. Jesus
In practice the "gender" thing isn't very egregious. Its a gag story about Chinese curses around transformation. The gender one is just a service to allow the MC to compete in every single form of martial art around, including ones that only girls do like Rhythmic Gymnastics.
In fact, it spends a lot of time pointing out the gender differences (like lack of muscle) and with him abusing the fuck out of female privilege to get away with shit like the piece of shit he is. In a way, its very anti-tranny.
But like any good "modern fanbase" all the little details get scrubbed away to turn him into an uncertain guy who wants to actually stay a girl because uwu flowers.
I'm kind of surprised it didn't happen sooner.
Of course they hire a tranny to write the English scripts solo because why wouldn't you adapt a remake of a classic for The Modern Audience?
Did sh- oh Jesus, she really did.
Why did Martin/LittleKuriboh marry her again? Especially since didn't he leave his first wife because she had no interest in having kids? Now his second wife decides she's a man?
We need to get these industries out of fucking California.
Wait what. I knew he was a leftoid nutcase, but I didn't know he was that far gone.
They've been together for years now. I used to actually care about this stuff for a long time, and then my respect and admiration for their industry turned into seething hatred in 2016. That's how long I've been out of that loop. This is the first I've heard that Marianne went tranny.
Hot damn. I'm wayyy out of the loop. I stopped watching him, when instead of content he just posted videos, whining about how bad his mental health is. Didn't even realise it's been that long.
What?
Aside from him being a fucking freak show, you'd think just having a single translator is the kind of thing the producers would want kept quiet, since it just makes it look like cheapy done junk.
Reminder:
Ranma HATES his curse.
He is a male, and always sees himself as male, regardless of cursed body.
Also, your name is Marianne Miller. I'm not calling you anything else, especially after you ruined Martin "LittleKuriboh" Billany.
Can't believe I shook Billany's hand at a con once...at least I got Johnny Yong Bosch's autograph at the same con.
Sub only, dub is politicised trash, got it.
If the Urusei Yatsura remake was any indication: Original only. Remake is soulless trash.
The Ranma remake looks like an upgrade though. The animation seems to capture the look and the timing of the manga better than the original.
Sure, it's slicker and shinier. No frame alignment jitter, no film grain, pristine and perfect coloring. In many cases, even more accurate to the source material.
I spent like 5 minutes highlighting generalities since I dropped watching the new one pretty early on but then I decided to see if anyone else had criticisms and found this one that was very specific and kind of grabs my vibe. Urusei Yatsura: Old Is Better Than New I'd consider this the "The Fall of The Simpsons: How it Happened" for Urusei Yatsura.
This should be standard policy regardless of who's be involved.
But we're talking about Netflix here. They probably use the same script for the sub and todays "fansubs" are just going to be rips. I might be wrong, but I would just assume unless someone explicitly corrects the subs they will also be fucked.
Also, if this lady is the "single adapter" why are there two people credited as Adapter?
It'll be similar as to what happened with My Deer friend anime, there will be two different versions of subs not one as whenever they try to fuck with the subs, and enterprising guy than understands both Japanese and English will come in to sub to gain popularity.
Them fucking with subs gains pirate sites MORE popularity.
I went to get alternative subs because Railgun's official subs translated Onee-sama as "sissy" and haven't come back since. Whenever a HorribleSubs reminds me of the original hackjobs, I tune out entirely from the series. No merch purchases, no manga or LN sales.
Piracy literally increases the revenues for these companies. I would buy licensed figmas of Onee-sama, I would not buy them of Sissy. Ranma is risking sales by giving it to this... entity.
Looks like in this case it will at least be easy to spot the netflix rips. I saw the first ep. yesterday on a streaming site and ho boy, the subtitles are so small, they're fucking unreadable on anything less than a 65" TV.
For what its worth, dub for the original series is actually quite good for its time, and I think holds up surprisingly well for a dub from before anime took off in the West for a show that was never going to be aired (aka home video only). Even kept the nudity intact.
But from what I've seen the Japanese version of the remake is also censored to hell all over. From erased barbie chests to adding more clothes to random costumes.
Probably the only thing this remake will have of any value is actually adapting the second half of the manga, that the original series ended before reaching. But that might take years at the rate they seem to be going (and its the worst half anyway).
Is there only ONE version of the series on Japan as they might have an uncensored version available like they did for Gushing over magical Girls?
Blu-ray might end up with things like the nipples put back on, as they look lazily brushed off, but the full costume changes I can't imagine being different.
Good thing subs materialize out of thin air with no involvement from the progs at all.
By progs you mean tourists, actually kinda.
Anime fans have shown if you won't do it, they will by the amount of times the mirror pirate sites. Them politicking subs would be dangerous...for the tourists given the Japanese hate it and they're a lot more open to using AI to translate if required.
Just read the old manga
Even as a fan of the series, the old manga is 38 volumes which is 34 volumes of filler and an ending designed to infuriate you. While great for its time, everything it had going for it has been done better since unless you have nostalgia for it.
the ending was open endedish but it was pretty clear ranma was sticking with akane.As for filler, it's a gag comedy series.It never really had a tight plot
Yes, designed to infuriate.
You read Ranma to laugh at how absolutely retarded the characters can get when they try to solve every normal problem in their lives with insane martial arts. Naruto this ain't. I don't think I've seen another manga that takes dumb decisions that far tbh.
Very true, but the issue is how many of those fillers are actual throwaway using bit characters who lack any of the fun of the actual retards we love from the main cast.
It suffers very much from the "ugh its another X chapter" while some of its better characters languish in obscurity. And unfortunately Akane, the main heroine, is one of those characters you groan at being the focus.
I would tend to agree. Every arc with recurring characters like Pantyhose Taro was great, so their absence is sorely felt at times.
I like Akane, but she was a little too protected overall. There was an unwritten rule that she could never be actually beaten up since in that world she's more like a normal girl than a combatant.
Taro was great, heck even main cast members like Kuno and Ukyo ended up sidelined more than they should despite being far more interesting than someone like Happosai for the 100th time.
Ukyo was my favorite fiance. She should get together with Ryoga
Unironically my first waifu and I still have strong opinions about her to this day.
Including that yes Ryoga and her had actual good chemistry, so much so that the OVA specifically designed to sink their ship ended up just making it look stronger, and that the "perfect partners" Takahashi stuck them with are offensively awful.
Honestly Ryoga in general was more interesting than Ranma and I wish the series focused on him more.
AI translators with no modern audience bullshit baked in can't come soon enough.
Wait, the whole show? Like ... the whole show?
Ranma 1/2 is like 161 episodes, three movies, and a dozen OVAs worth of dialogue.