Once again the question that needs to be asked. Will this peter out or will the "revolutionaries" take the next step and start going after the authorities that are arrayed against them?
If its not a revolt, then this will be like "January 6th" in the US: the gov will be rounding up folks on trumped up charges for YEARS. Anyone involved already has got a choice as to get ready for prison or keep going until [RULES ONE THROUGH THREE VIOLATION].
Also watch for sweetheart deals or no prosecution at all (oops we can't find them!) for the people literally torching the buildings, while throwing the book at random mums in the crowd.
That's the last lesson in these sorts of things. Law enforcement are the peons of the people who have lead countries into this state. It sucks, but just because they go to the same pubs and are working class, doesn't mean they shouldn't be the first issue tackled when enacting grassroots democracy.
We've seen that before and I would not be surprised considering who the biritsh have been bothering. Remember Cod Comedy? Guy made autistic videos online, police to this day won't leave him alone. Random mum will be attacked by the police for years to come and that is what makes me fear the protests could end prematurely.
Our government is just as shit. We are lucky the majority of immigrants we get are Christian and generally good people. I think the Dems are in for a surprise when all the illegals vote for Trump because they hate the anti-Christian left.
I disagree, the majority of the illegal immigrants are dependent on government welfare which is perpetuated by the Democrats. the Democrats are not shy about reminding them of this.
I hope they don’t lose heart. I can imagine the BBC is making them out to look like evil people. Amazing how such a large percentage of people in the UK oppose this but the keep bringing in “migrants”
The media are doing a pretty shit job of reporting on everything actually, might be because it's the weekend, but this is probably going to get a lot more serious if the government tries to clamp down.
Decades, or centuries?
The English don't revolt. Even when they should have revolted, they didn't.
The media are doing a pretty shit job of reporting on everything actually, might be because it's the weekend, but this is probably going to get a lot more serious if the government tries to clamp down
I think this is the government excuse that they are looking for. I think we are going to see a lot of heads getting kicked in, and a lot of horses trampling people, like in Australia and Canada.
The working class in the deep Labour places are not linked in with the dissident right, and don't have any political organization to appeal to... which means the hatred and animosity of the Labour party and their affiliates, along with the Stalinist ruthlessness of Kier Stahmer, suggests to me that they are going to get purged, violently.
Someone on the dissident right needs to basically step in and re-organize them into a political force; or they are going to get literally killed.
The English don't revolt. Even when they should have revolted, they didn't.
I don't know, I seem to recall a handful of English colonies fighting a bloody war against the world's greatest empire and winning several hundred years ago.
I think that very mechanism proved that the Americans could not be English.
I think that very concept is what makes us different. We are, truly, the "Anglos In The Woods"; and that the British-English had very badly strayed from their ancient English rights. The Americans were heavily Anglo-Saxon at the time, but very much mixed with Scots, Welsh, Irish, Scotch-Irish, and German quite quickly. They not only attempted a "conservative" revolution that demanded the return of ancient English rights; but also became non-English. Even then, many of the early American colonials were already of a revolutionary bent. They were the veterans of Roundhead military during the English civil war, but were also dissatisfied by the elitism of the Parliament immediately onward.
It might be a mistake, but who's going to stop them?
They shot Ashley Babbitt through the throat and gave the cop that did it a parade and a medal. This is because even MAGA isn't well organized enough to stop the institutional crackdown. The British working class have just been fully purged from the Labour Party. They don't have any real political representation and I guarantee the Unions will turn hard against their own members, just as they did here in the US. They're starting from scratch, and I don't think they realize that that means that when cops start shooting them, every institution is going to cheer.
I've said this before, but people don't understand how serious this statement is: "the right needs to learn how to take casualties".
You're gonna lose people. And the right needs to learn how to suffer from those loses, and continue to push hard in an affirmative manner towards better policies, and control of institutions, or otherwise build anti-parallel institutions. Just fighting back won't do anything. A tit-for-tat response is probably what the state wants more than anything. Hell, Trotsky and Alinsky were trying to point this out. This Boomer Jihad will die, whether by fire, imprisonment, or exhaustion. It's not a political movement yet. That's the problem with truly grass-roots organizing.
I have to wonder how this would go between three factions.
The Horde might jump in if it looked like the government was in peril because their free ride would be over. Then again they might let a power vacuum manifest so they can force sharia, and they're not above going door to door to clear out a city to make it theirs if they have to since they're still using the 7th century playbook. I wouldn't doubt there are groups who would be very happy to start arming them if they say the word.
If they're going by the Irish "troubles" playbook cops should start getting a bit nervous right about now. If I were a cop I'd stop leaving the house in uniform or telling people what I do for a living.
Then again if I were a cop in the UK I'd have probably would have thrown my badge at Starmer and quit last week.
That's thinking too narrow. Any given forest fire will burn itself out. To make a bigger fire you need more lightning to strike.
Another knifing incident will go bigger.
Another after that will go bigger still. Etc.
The only way for the government to prevent that from happening is total press and social media control so that knifing attacks don't reach national attention.
Without that, the system is entering an amplification feedback loop where each successive attack will provoke larger and larger retaliation.
Not to mention that if it becomes clear that the government is doing something that could easily be taken as a sign that they are trying to give themselves more power (IE cracking down on social media "misinformation") or even starts using guns themselves, that could inflame things as well. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if criminal elements start finding something lucrative in the chance to give somebody an edge.
Once again the question that needs to be asked. Will this peter out or will the "revolutionaries" take the next step and start going after the authorities that are arrayed against them?
If its not a revolt, then this will be like "January 6th" in the US: the gov will be rounding up folks on trumped up charges for YEARS. Anyone involved already has got a choice as to get ready for prison or keep going until [RULES ONE THROUGH THREE VIOLATION].
Also watch for sweetheart deals or no prosecution at all (oops we can't find them!) for the people literally torching the buildings, while throwing the book at random mums in the crowd.
That's the last lesson in these sorts of things. Law enforcement are the peons of the people who have lead countries into this state. It sucks, but just because they go to the same pubs and are working class, doesn't mean they shouldn't be the first issue tackled when enacting grassroots democracy.
We've seen that before and I would not be surprised considering who the biritsh have been bothering. Remember Cod Comedy? Guy made autistic videos online, police to this day won't leave him alone. Random mum will be attacked by the police for years to come and that is what makes me fear the protests could end prematurely.
First thing I worried about would be them getting the Jan 6 treatment
...Three?
Ya know, I just noticed the last word for r3. Never have given them a thorough reading.
They government should be fucked. They have absolutely earned this and a great deal more.
Our government is just as shit. We are lucky the majority of immigrants we get are Christian and generally good people. I think the Dems are in for a surprise when all the illegals vote for Trump because they hate the anti-Christian left.
I disagree, the majority of the illegal immigrants are dependent on government welfare which is perpetuated by the Democrats. the Democrats are not shy about reminding them of this.
I hope they don’t lose heart. I can imagine the BBC is making them out to look like evil people. Amazing how such a large percentage of people in the UK oppose this but the keep bringing in “migrants”
Decades, or centuries?
The English don't revolt. Even when they should have revolted, they didn't.
I think this is the government excuse that they are looking for. I think we are going to see a lot of heads getting kicked in, and a lot of horses trampling people, like in Australia and Canada.
The working class in the deep Labour places are not linked in with the dissident right, and don't have any political organization to appeal to... which means the hatred and animosity of the Labour party and their affiliates, along with the Stalinist ruthlessness of Kier Stahmer, suggests to me that they are going to get purged, violently.
Someone on the dissident right needs to basically step in and re-organize them into a political force; or they are going to get literally killed.
I don't know, I seem to recall a handful of English colonies fighting a bloody war against the world's greatest empire and winning several hundred years ago.
I think that very mechanism proved that the Americans could not be English.
I think that very concept is what makes us different. We are, truly, the "Anglos In The Woods"; and that the British-English had very badly strayed from their ancient English rights. The Americans were heavily Anglo-Saxon at the time, but very much mixed with Scots, Welsh, Irish, Scotch-Irish, and German quite quickly. They not only attempted a "conservative" revolution that demanded the return of ancient English rights; but also became non-English. Even then, many of the early American colonials were already of a revolutionary bent. They were the veterans of Roundhead military during the English civil war, but were also dissatisfied by the elitism of the Parliament immediately onward.
Those cheeky bastards. Could've just paid the 2% tax to the crown, but instead started a war and then instituted an income tax of 3% to pay for it.
It might be a mistake, but who's going to stop them?
They shot Ashley Babbitt through the throat and gave the cop that did it a parade and a medal. This is because even MAGA isn't well organized enough to stop the institutional crackdown. The British working class have just been fully purged from the Labour Party. They don't have any real political representation and I guarantee the Unions will turn hard against their own members, just as they did here in the US. They're starting from scratch, and I don't think they realize that that means that when cops start shooting them, every institution is going to cheer.
I've said this before, but people don't understand how serious this statement is: "the right needs to learn how to take casualties".
You're gonna lose people. And the right needs to learn how to suffer from those loses, and continue to push hard in an affirmative manner towards better policies, and control of institutions, or otherwise build anti-parallel institutions. Just fighting back won't do anything. A tit-for-tat response is probably what the state wants more than anything. Hell, Trotsky and Alinsky were trying to point this out. This Boomer Jihad will die, whether by fire, imprisonment, or exhaustion. It's not a political movement yet. That's the problem with truly grass-roots organizing.
I have to wonder how this would go between three factions.
The Horde might jump in if it looked like the government was in peril because their free ride would be over. Then again they might let a power vacuum manifest so they can force sharia, and they're not above going door to door to clear out a city to make it theirs if they have to since they're still using the 7th century playbook. I wouldn't doubt there are groups who would be very happy to start arming them if they say the word.
The Saxon has learned to hate.
If they're going by the Irish "troubles" playbook cops should start getting a bit nervous right about now. If I were a cop I'd stop leaving the house in uniform or telling people what I do for a living.
Then again if I were a cop in the UK I'd have probably would have thrown my badge at Starmer and quit last week.
That's thinking too narrow. Any given forest fire will burn itself out. To make a bigger fire you need more lightning to strike.
Another knifing incident will go bigger.
Another after that will go bigger still. Etc.
The only way for the government to prevent that from happening is total press and social media control so that knifing attacks don't reach national attention.
Without that, the system is entering an amplification feedback loop where each successive attack will provoke larger and larger retaliation.
Not to mention that if it becomes clear that the government is doing something that could easily be taken as a sign that they are trying to give themselves more power (IE cracking down on social media "misinformation") or even starts using guns themselves, that could inflame things as well. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if criminal elements start finding something lucrative in the chance to give somebody an edge.
If I was to bet I would bet on them folding like the trucker convoy in Canada