That's it, that's the whole movie. The movie sure as fuck doesn't explain what the titular civil war is fought for, much less the retarded CA-TX alliance.
Oh, and all the "good-coded" characters are minorities and le ebil baddy bads are ypipo, of course.
That whole analysis that the film is ginning up journos is so weird to me.
The journalists in that film come off as amoral psychopaths. They're adrenaline junkie glory hounds concerned with only the scoop, with the emotional maturity of teenagers and no consistent morals. They're constantly getting people killed with their incompetence and contributing nothing in return.
The concept might have superficially looked like it promised an examination of real war, but the execution was the same as a dumb teen shock-horror movie, it's just a string of tense, gory vignettes interspersed with camping and road trip scenes. And they knew how it came out too, the trailers before the main movie were exclusively dumb slasher flicks too.
It's just a gory horror movie under a thin guise of civil war.
It was a one-trick pony that didn't work. The one trick was getting people to think they'd see a realistic Civil War, but word go out that it wasn't that. People would have gone to see a political statement, though I don't know that it would've made it to theaters.
In a way, it reminds me of the jingoism of movies like Independence Day. The milquetoast cultural constant used to be "America, fuck yeah." Now it's "America, we're all screwed." Talking about our problems is a bridge too far, but you can try to bank on the general idea that we've got lots of them. That transition is something.
How as Independence Day jingoistic? It was people vs. aliens, and the USA gets its shit ruined just like the rest of the world.
The closest you could get to an "America, fuck yeah!" message is that the U.S. figures out how to destroy the motherships first. Somehow the rest of the world also successfully destroys them without advanced military hardware.
The President. The F-16s. The whole name "Independence Day." It was definitely a movie about the United States. Realistically, they just roped in the whole rest of the world in a montage at the end. That's how I felt it was played at the time. Zeitgeist or something? I'd have to even look when that came out.
If the story were X-COM, I'd agree with you about humans vs aliens. They should make a movie about that.
Agree with what you said, but to be correct, those are F-18s in the movie, not F-16s.
Except for the part where Will Smith makes his way back to his "Navy" base, and you can see an F-16 tail sticking out of the wreckage, with "LF" on it, indicating it is from Luke AFB.
Agree with what you said, but to be correct, those are F-18s in the movie, not F-16s.
Thanks.
Except for the part where Will Smith makes his way back to his "Navy" base, and you can see an F-16 tail sticking out of the wreckage, with "LF" on it, indicating it is from Luke AFB.
Odd that they did that. I've been close to Luke and seen the F-16s :) And in Texas. It's probably why I generically refer to fighter jets as F-16s. Funny place for a Naval base, lol.
The closest you could get to an "America, fuck yeah!" message is that the U.S. figures out how to destroy the motherships first.
The movie was fun, but God I hated how it acted like we'd won all of a sudden. They didn't figure out shit. All the aliens had to do was what? Not let the humans fly stuff into their particle cannon weapon? Do a better job of vetting the ships returning to the hangers, and patch their software to fix that zero day exploit?
The stuff they did worked on that one ship. There is zero reason it should have worked on any of the others, unless the aliens were stupid as fuck.
Heavily depends on who's doing it, but at times, yes.
I prefer articles if I just want to read and get the point quickly, but a good video essay will have a lot of examples and not ramble, and use imagery in the background to make the points and connect them more to the media
Archive links are considered better practice due to their functionality as an archive (duh). I find the captchas annoying as well, but I have no sympathy for morons like the one you’re replying to that won’t take 30 seconds to go through captchas in exchange for the obvious advantages offered by creating a backup of information.
To my understanding, the movie is just journalists being the good guys which is already pushed in my face enough. I don't need to see the movie to listen to that.
This is an excellent article. Someone that isn't quite following modern politics asked me for an opinion of the film, thinking I had seen it, and this does a great job of explaining why nobody with a clue would actually enjoy that unfunny joke.
DAE journalists are the real heroes???
That's it, that's the whole movie. The movie sure as fuck doesn't explain what the titular civil war is fought for, much less the retarded CA-TX alliance.
Oh, and all the "good-coded" characters are minorities and le ebil baddy bads are ypipo, of course.
That whole analysis that the film is ginning up journos is so weird to me.
The journalists in that film come off as amoral psychopaths. They're adrenaline junkie glory hounds concerned with only the scoop, with the emotional maturity of teenagers and no consistent morals. They're constantly getting people killed with their incompetence and contributing nothing in return.
The concept might have superficially looked like it promised an examination of real war, but the execution was the same as a dumb teen shock-horror movie, it's just a string of tense, gory vignettes interspersed with camping and road trip scenes. And they knew how it came out too, the trailers before the main movie were exclusively dumb slasher flicks too.
It's just a gory horror movie under a thin guise of civil war.
It was a one-trick pony that didn't work. The one trick was getting people to think they'd see a realistic Civil War, but word go out that it wasn't that. People would have gone to see a political statement, though I don't know that it would've made it to theaters.
In a way, it reminds me of the jingoism of movies like Independence Day. The milquetoast cultural constant used to be "America, fuck yeah." Now it's "America, we're all screwed." Talking about our problems is a bridge too far, but you can try to bank on the general idea that we've got lots of them. That transition is something.
How as Independence Day jingoistic? It was people vs. aliens, and the USA gets its shit ruined just like the rest of the world.
The closest you could get to an "America, fuck yeah!" message is that the U.S. figures out how to destroy the motherships first. Somehow the rest of the world also successfully destroys them without advanced military hardware.
The President. The F-16s. The whole name "Independence Day." It was definitely a movie about the United States. Realistically, they just roped in the whole rest of the world in a montage at the end. That's how I felt it was played at the time. Zeitgeist or something? I'd have to even look when that came out.
If the story were X-COM, I'd agree with you about humans vs aliens. They should make a movie about that.
Agree with what you said, but to be correct, those are F-18s in the movie, not F-16s.
Except for the part where Will Smith makes his way back to his "Navy" base, and you can see an F-16 tail sticking out of the wreckage, with "LF" on it, indicating it is from Luke AFB.
That always bothered me for some reason.
Thanks.
Odd that they did that. I've been close to Luke and seen the F-16s :) And in Texas. It's probably why I generically refer to fighter jets as F-16s. Funny place for a Naval base, lol.
The message of Independence Day was "WELCOME TO ERF!"
Independence Day glorified the military like Transformers did. I'm not really complaining.
The movie was fun, but God I hated how it acted like we'd won all of a sudden. They didn't figure out shit. All the aliens had to do was what? Not let the humans fly stuff into their particle cannon weapon? Do a better job of vetting the ships returning to the hangers, and patch their software to fix that zero day exploit?
The stuff they did worked on that one ship. There is zero reason it should have worked on any of the others, unless the aliens were stupid as fuck.
For those who prefer video essays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikRKV_7zuE
Does ANYONE prefer video "essays" to an actual written article?
15 minutes of unskimmable rambling with ads vs the same amount of information in text, give me the text every time.
Yes, someone, somewhere on the Internet prefers one over the other. I was trying to put effort into being a decent OP and provide options.
Heavily depends on who's doing it, but at times, yes.
I prefer articles if I just want to read and get the point quickly, but a good video essay will have a lot of examples and not ramble, and use imagery in the background to make the points and connect them more to the media
zoomer faggots do
God I fucking hate archive links. I'm not solving six captchas to read whatever this slop is. Just post direct fucking links and stop being a weenie.
Every time I post a direct link here there's some weenie in the comments bitching about posting an archive instead.
Archive links are considered better practice due to their functionality as an archive (duh). I find the captchas annoying as well, but I have no sympathy for morons like the one you’re replying to that won’t take 30 seconds to go through captchas in exchange for the obvious advantages offered by creating a backup of information.
Fuck that loser. Just do whatever.
Making people look it up themselves is a proven redpill method.
That phrase still doesn't mean anything and you're still a hobgoblin for discouraging good archiving practices.
Your goal is to allow things to get memory holed and to prime people to blindly accept photoshopped agitprop.
"That phrase still doesn't mean anything" because you've never redpilled anyone your way.
I saw the look on my brother's face when he found it himself.
You?
EDIT: I see downvotes, but no counterpoints. Weird, huh?
Captcha on every visit is not standard behaviour. I get maybe one a month.
Dunno if it's VPN or browser settings, but something's fucky with your setup.
It's 100% something with their setup. I don't remember the last time an archive site made me do a captcha.
Probably a VPN. I use a VPN often and get a captcha every time I access an archive through it. They’re very annoying.
I still take the grueling 30 seconds to do them because I’m not a faggot who doesn’t get the value of making a backup.
I'm sorry that dot today doesn't work properly for you. Here's a dot org archive link that shouldn't have the captcha problem.
Direct link is here.
To my understanding, the movie is just journalists being the good guys which is already pushed in my face enough. I don't need to see the movie to listen to that.
This is an excellent article. Someone that isn't quite following modern politics asked me for an opinion of the film, thinking I had seen it, and this does a great job of explaining why nobody with a clue would actually enjoy that unfunny joke.