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This is why I left Seattle (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 2 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +106 / -0
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– Ahaus667 43 points 2 years ago +43 / -0

Merchants used to take their profits to buy titles of nobility because it was a guaranteed form of income for their family in perpetuity in feudalism, today business owners buy their way into political appointments because it is a guaranteed income in perpetuity for them and their family. I’m paraphrasing Sowell here, probably poorly because it was from years ago.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

That's why Japan collapsed and had to open up for trade in the 1850's. Everyone says it was Commodore Perry, but even the Shogun was in the red from all his gambling and giving titles to pay off debts.

The Yakuza are from those gambling halls btw.

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– yoisi 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Fun fact. August Belmont, a Rothschild banker, was Commodore Perry’s son-in-law

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– Tourgen 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

uh, no. gunboat diplomacy was real an effective. nice try at revising history tho. works on those that have never read the history, I suppose.

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– DemolitionsPanda 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Both are true. Japan was (generally) poor as shit, with almost the entire population (by percentage) caught in a cycle of iron age subsistence farming.

Stagnation had occurred long ago, and things had been held stable (and shit) for more than a hundred years due to the (very effective) system of the shogun taking hostages of noble families.

Trade was a way for people to make money and have a better life. The people who were secretly involved in trading with westerners made so much money that it destabilized the entire Japanese economy.

The Japanese are usually obstinate bastards and isolationists to boot. Gunboat diplomacy worked so well because the Japanese people already knew that there was a way out of desperate, subsistence farming for almost everyone if Japan was opened up in trade.

The Shogunate could no longer suppress the people by keeping noble hostages. because the subjects didn't care. A chain of events was set in motion that lead to a popular uprising, the overthrow of feudalism, and the end of the samurai caste.

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– yoisi 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

There's some Japanese people i know who think that jews were behind the overthrow of the Shogunate. The movement that overthrew the Shogunate was funded by the British and the British were cozy with the Rothschild bankers so there might be some truth to it.

There's Japanese that think that the overthrow of the Shogunate was a mistake, because after the Shogunate was overthrown, western ideas like the enlightenment came in to Japan and the enlightenment was basically the proto communist values from the French revolution.

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– Ahaus667 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Meh the enlightenment branched off into at least 3 different main philosophical/government/economic policies 1. Libertarian capitalism 2. communism/ socialism and 3. Despotic benevolence which in turn devolved into fascism. Japan got 3 mingled with 1 then 2 which kicked in after WW2.

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– yoisi 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Also Commodore Perry’s son-in-law August Belmont was a Rothschild banker

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– ThreeLights 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

This is why everyone left the major cities. The problem is they brought the high costs and apartment living with them. Fucking sick of seeing new apartments and 2 bed homes being built everywhere. They will never be filled and they will just be sold to the Feds for project housing.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0
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– RaceCreatesCulture 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

This is everywhere not just Seattle. The collapse is all of Western Society.

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– Tourgen 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

yes but what is causing this slow, downward sloping decline?

free-trade, globalism, and "the free market". it turns out global free-trade just means you become the slave-plantation nation for your globalist, coin-clipping middlemen who owe no allegiance to any nation.

the cure is nationalism, tariffs to protect domestic industries and increase domestic wages, and import-replacements: you build industries domestically to replace what you used to import. you stop exporting natural resources and instead process them and use them in domestic industries. you export your global rivals into your subservient import plantation slaves.

like it or not, economics is warfare and we got tricked. we got tricked into being resource exporters and finished-goods importers.

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– MrMorden 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

It’s this entire state. I love the weather here but I try to never go near Seattle. Tacompton is no better since they let homeless junkies run amok. I was at the Tacoma Mall a few months back and a junky was shooting up over a trash can in the middle of the mall and it was like 11am on a Sat. The mall and Lakehood town center constantly have carjackings and an armed robberies in the parking lot it’s fantastic. We should just start calling the Puget Sound area little Haiti.

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– mharmless 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Flee east. I did, and it is great. If the left thinks an area is a shithole, it will probably actually be great.

I feel like I live in America again.

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– cccpneveragain 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

All of this has made me more and more rural. I'm already in like a fringe sub-suburb and I'm looking to build on some land I have in the next few years.

I hope they continue to hate and look down on small town life myself, so they will stay away. I like the boring little places just called Cafe or Diner where I can grab a meal, the butcher shop attached to the gas station, a little bit of space around my house, etc. I don't want to be crammed into a tiny apartment and have to walk to some place named like "Avocado + Kale" where I can't actually park a car, just to not be able to order a cup of coffee without understanding all the pretentious BS they write on the menu.

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– brsafb 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

It's coming out that way too. Kenmore / Juanita has been shit for a while Kirkland is rapidly becoming the same. Seeing the diversity riff raff hanging around Redmond and Woodinville in the evening now. Won't be to long. With the light rail almost done in Redmond the homeless will migrate over and take over Marymore park. Mark my words. They're already camping out off the trails in the bush along the river.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, but are they regular homeless or crazy Microsoft workers?

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– CatoTheElder 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Fuck off, we're full.

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– KingLion7 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I would love to flee East, but the majority of my family is in the Pacific Northwest states. I love the Midwest and Appalachian mountain region though.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0
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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

It's a sad day when Yakima is looking nice. I've been told that Olympia is nicer. That blew my mind.

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– MrMorden 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Olympia is still pretty bad. It’s really just like a time warp to what Seattle was like 10+ years ago. Still super leftist hippy dippy they just do a better job of caring for the homeless… by making them go somewhere else.

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– brsafb 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The whole highway 9 corridor has turned into utter trash. The east side is better but starting to turn too

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

My friends and I used to go to this breakfast place in Seattle that'd put out coffee and ceramic mugs for people to drink while they were waiting for a table. And they were always quick on the draw to replace the thermos when it was empty.

After awhile they replaced the ceramic mugs with paper ones, presumably because people were stealing them. And they didn't replace the empty thermoses as quickly. I think the last time we went there a few years ago they didn't even have coffee out.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah, it feels more and more like Blade Runner.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

My wife hasn't seen it till last year, so you are in good company. It's visually amazing, and has some really interesting parts. Its also kind of difficult to figure out plot wise, hence the constant debate on whether or not the main character is human. Even the producer and director argue over this.

The ideas, visuals, and concepts are influential, but there's a reason why most people don't see it. Go watch Dark City, Mulholland Drive and Sky Captain to get them all.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Go watch Dark City

Watch the director's cut of Dark City that doesn't spoil the reveal in the opening scene with a needless voiceover that Hollywood producers thought was necessary because audiences would be too dumb to understand the story.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I need to find this. I saw it the first time on TV and the opening had already happened. I consider that experience way better.

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– JiggsawCalrissian 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Bug people. Just like china

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– ShekelJa 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Pretty obvious when I read it then. But yes, we are seeing it more and more now

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Most government and company leases want serfs, and a feudal system with a vast trade empire. They don't care what it's called so long as they're on top and you and I aren't.

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– Knife-TotingRat 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Been listening to the audiobook of Watership Down.

It occurred to me that when it's discussed, it's Efrafa that gets most of the attention ... but the Warren of Shining Wires gets kind of glossed over.

Why?

Because that place pretty much sums up modern civilization, and there are certain questions you must not ask in rl as well.

But what leapt out at me this time was the enormous cultural difference between the Sandleford rabbits, and SW ones, how the SW rabbits traded stories about a trickster hero that inspire rabbits to survive against all odds, for miserable, empty, nihilistic nonsense like the poem Silverweed recites .... They felt they no longer needed Frith's promise, when The Man provides food both great and plentiful, and protection from the other 999 ... but they were physically free enough, so they didn't mind the mental shackles they willingly donned ...

Now imagine the transitional period, as it's implied the warren was there first.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That's a fascinating point. I had no idea the book was more of a philosophy with rabbits. The concept of being raised for slaughter is a tragic idea.

The trickster rabbit? Anansi?

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– Knife-TotingRat 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Unlike Man's tricksters, El-Ahrairah always advocates for his people. It's the gods he plays tricks on. Which makes sense; for humans, the trickster is both a comedic character as well as a representation of the fickleness of Nature and Fate; rabbits need tricks and wile just to survive, so he more serves as an example of how to stay alive ... and stories about him tend to be scary af.

Adams was pretty good at looking from their perspective.

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