I don't know how bad it is in the US at the moment because I can imagine in a country as big as that it would vary wildly but I've seen the New York videos of recent bullshit with migration and the built up areas look horrible. Imagine actually believing the media narrative around population, but I really am having a major case of "My lying eyes" lately because I swear even by the standards of Bradford which I have to drive through regularly things are regularly getting worse.
How bad are things in the built up areas you guys are? Suburbs any better? How many of you are thinking of buying a plot land in the middle of nowhere so you can camp on it for a few weeks to keep away from people? I know I am, fuck, I'd consider buying a plot of land in a desert that nobody wants because I hate it that much.
Even plots in the middle of nowhere are not safe from this shit. Anytime you do your shopping, half-nigger babies and spics everywhere. Starting to see an increasing number of turbanites aswell.
I'm not convinced the census is accurate, probably by as much as 30%.
I live in Canada, where the government is desperate to spread the diversity far and wide through pilot programs, trying hard to leave no place for civilized people to flee to. The most densely-populated regions are Southern Ontario and the Lower Mainland of British Columbia. The established white middle class has already abandoned these areas, and the only people left are immigrants and rich white leftists.
The cities of Brampton, Ontario and Surrey, BC are both majority Indian, each home to 600 000+ people. Other nearby cities are almost as bad. The crime in these regions is so bad that the police are already flat out telling people that unless someone is actually seriously hurt, they're on their own. The government tries to tell us the crime rate has decreased since the 90s, but there can only be so many viral videos of Sikh gangs having sword fights in Tim Hortons parking lots before it becomes impossible to ignore.
Every university and community College in Canada is making a fortune off of international students, so even the schools in smaller communities are flooding these towns with Indians and Africans where there is not enough infrastructure to house them. Half of them don't even bother with school and immediately take jobs from the locals and do their best to work full time.
Housing and property prices are already completely out of reach of the middle class in all but the most remote areas. The social contract has completely broken down. Even in mid-sized and smaller cities the immigrant population is 20-50%. Drug use has exploded along with homelessness, and every city has tent cities with thousands of people living in them. We had a record number of deaths this past winter from exposure or overdose.
I live 20 minutes outside a smaller city in a less "enriched" province, but even here the problems with international "students," crime and drugs have got bad enough that stores are locking up valuable merchandise and any open position even for a part-time retail cashier gets dozens or hundreds of applicants. I moved here 10 years ago when things were starting to get bad in Ontario, and was able to purchase a home at a relatively good price. Plots of empty land on my road are now selling for the same amount I paid for my finished house.
Yep that sounds about right, it's really noticeable how the population is simply going up which is why, yes, okay you go to a different country where it's third world status. However that's going to be far more stable than the inevitably ethnic gang warfare that's going to happen here. Thinking of the fairly recent French rioting where they had actual AK's out in the open and were shooting at cameras.
There's some serious autistic wargaming to be done on this situation because I know for a fact now that the normies are probably going to roll over for it because the "Please don't call us racist" is suicidally strong. The big question I have do I still consider staying and potentially have to fight it out against a hostile government? Or is the grass in fact greener depending on which country you go to? Just on the basis of, does it have a functioning border and migration controls?
Funnily enough even though the UK is getting really really bad, it's surprising how localised it all still is. Again, aforementioned built up areas are where the problem is worse, however the rural areas are of little interest to the WEF and the migrants probably because there's fuck all out there to begin with. They seem fully intent on turning any kind of decent town into a literal crime ridden shithole by dumping as many foreigners as they can in it.
I live in a blue shithole that's rolled out the red carpet for illegals (let's not use the left's language here). The biggest quality of life problem is the fact that they refuse to do anything about the homeless whether they're native or or not. I'm hoping to move to a red state at the end of the year. I'm here now and it's nice but expensive as fuck. I've seen a grand total of one homeless guy and he wasn't shitting up a residential area like they do where I live. I guess the lesson is find a place that isn't a ghetto or run by leftists.
There are no red states. It's red counties, and blue cities, everywhere. Even in south Florida, the mayor of Tampa is a communist lesbian who's importing thousands of illegals and giving them free ebikes to get around with. They're fucking everywhere.
The rule of thumb for the U.S. is whether the area is run by Democrats. The more Democratic control, the shittier it is. Big cities run by Dems = overrun with criminals and a generally deteriorating society. Big cities run by Dems in a Dem controlled state = even worse. Then you additionally see the massive homeless encampments and open drug use and roving looting gangs. Red areas tend to not put up with the decay and lawlessness that the blue areas actively encourage.
Yes and no. The South is red, but has some of the worst crime in America due to the African demographic. The red states up north and in the Midwest are safe as can be. With the coasts and parts of the South being overrun... Who knows for how long. If the vast majority of my family wasn't in the Pacific Northwest I would book it for the Red center/ north of America
So it basically comes down to how White an area is. Huh...
Mostly true, with the exception of the lefty whites of Seattle and Portland, and maybe the whites of the crappier parts of the Appalachian mountains.
Red areas also tend to not understand that the left doesn't act in good faith, so they get caught unawares by the left's maneuverings.
Eg. marijuana. A red state might look at that from an economic and jobs standpoint without understanding that there are certain undesirables who will not move to a place where pot is illegal, and now that you've legalized it you will attract those sorts of people.
If you ask your lefty friends "what is the one state you would never move to under any circumstances?" they will always have an answer. May be Texas or Alabama or someplace like that, but it's always someplace they perceive as having "backwards" laws. Strive to make where you live the answer to that question.
This. Potheads turned out to be the kinds of little shits everyone stereotyped them as. Surprise, surprise.
Potheads, really? Do you call everyone who has a beer after work an alcoholic or a wine-o?
"run by Democrats" is code for some stuff, in most of these cases.
I was just thinking about this yesterday. Reading reports on American whites getting shorter, less intelligent and losing all hope for the future with nobody being able to afford housing. Lots of tats, mental illness, birth rates dying while immigrants swamping in everywhere. Fun stuff.
On what I have personally witnessed: The few years I lived in Idaho I watched the Boise area consume everything around it. Gas went from a $1.90 up to over $5, and it didn't drop down to four something till a year and a half ago. Housing exploded out there, with everything getting built up around the small apartment complex I used to live in. I took photos of the area over the course of 3 years and watched all the farmland and wilderness disappear.
I recently moved back to Washington to live closer to family. I live a couple hours away from Seattle, but the distance isn't far enough. Western WA, even the rural parts, is unaffordable for the average Joe. Eastern WA is cheaper, although family there complains of the prices going up over the years.
Visiting the area I grew up is depressing. Homeless folk, run down suburbs and generic metropolitan areas where forest used to be. Very few of my friends still live there. Depressing really. Been thinking of moving again, Eastern WA is better but still has its hardships. Would still be close to family.
I loved living in Boise in 2012-2019. They elected that flat out commie mayor about the time I left IIRC.
I lived in Middleton ID when it was the area people ran to get away from the cops. I buried my cat in an open field that is now covered by suburbia.
The entire Northwest just slowly decayed and it's hard to describe the feeling of living there. Everything I loved was destroyed, and although I still have stuff I love, I'm scared to do it because of the other problems.
Central Florida is growing in waves. A friend in Oviedo used to live with hicks and sticks, and is now living in a big upper middle class neighborhood. He hasn't moved. I have bears near my house, the cowardly kind not the grizzlies, and a lot of cockroaches. I have been told directly that in the next five years it will be like Oviedo.
Phoenix is insane. I have friends that remember Surprise being far away from the valley. I lived when surprise was expected to join it any year now. Now the valley goes beyond Surprise.
I live in a suburban/rural Canadian city of about 100,000 people. Things were already noticeably declining years ago, but have really ramped up in the past five. Drug addicts and homelessness have exploded and so too have assaults and robberies. I'm about to move to a different location and smaller town, but I fear the entire country will look like downtown Toronto soon enough.
This is pretty much my situation as well.
My reply is based on the assumption that you're British and have never been to North America.
Yes and no.
Here's the first thing you need to realize about the US and Canada. The overwhelming majority of both countries is either completely undeveloped, or agriculture on a scale so massive it defies European sensibilities. There are only maybe two dozen cities on the WHOLE CONTINENT that compare to the likes of Paris or Berlin, and maybe five that rival London (NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta).
In the vast majority of US cities, the problem is not population but rather de-industrialization. Detroit is the stereotype (miles of rotting abandoned houses because there are no jobs), but the same is happening on a smaller scale in most cities outside the top twenty metros. America (and Canada) is seeing population concentration into islands of extremely high density development while the rest of the country falls apart.
That's partly why the Portland & Seattle riots were so unusual. Race dynamics simply aren't much of an issue in areas where there are no jobs to be had. It takes a special kind of privileged stupid to complain about America being more racist than classist.
Thankfully I'm not in a border state (although I wouldn't complain if I was in based Texas), or anywhere else that seems to be importing a lot of problematic people (we have enough problematic Americans already living in this blue shithole anyway), but holy shit the "unhoused" population has exploded in the nearby cities. And I've seen it elsewhere too. Things are absolutely getting worse across the board, as far as major population areas go.
I'd feel worse for these people - many were obviously screwed by government nonsense and/or psyops - if most of them weren't also druggy weirdoes. It's sad; I want people to be happy, but there's also obviously some people you can't help. They'll either do it on their own, or not. The majority of homeless people seem to fall into this category.
Thinking of? All the time! Feasibly able to at this time? Big ol' frowny face. Shit's expensive and I don't have enough money or prospects. Hopefully at some point, though. I'd love a nice little bit of rural land where I can park a trailer, and (very eventually) build a house of my own. Also, shoot guns, because 'Merica.
Yup, it's crossed my mind. I just don't really like the desert, though. And it's often far away from population...which, while great, also means it's not convenient to get to either. So unless you plan to live there a big chunk of the time, it makes a pretty impractical getaway. I don't want to have to drive hours just to get to barren land I'd technically own (but would still be renting from the government, of course.) Taxation is theft.
Many if not all homeless shelters stipulate no drug use when staying. Not only do drugs run counter to a shelter's mission to get the homeless back on their feet, it attracts drug dealers seeking more "customers" to get hooked on their product.
The ones on the streets, they've made their choice.
I've got a dozen smoke/vape shops opened up by me in the last 2 years. Almost all have some kind of Middle Eastern script. I think Persian? I'm ignorant to what type. Lots of halal markets, gyro places, shwarma. The chicks in headgear and robes at the grocery store. This is central Florida. So, I would imagine it's way more pronounced in larger cities. Now if you go just 30 minutes North of where I live, or 30 minutes South, it's what you would expect from Florida. Swampy agriculture and churches.
I live in a red state in a majority black area. I haven't witnessed any riots yet, but man the people here are ugly. People blast rap and Mexican music every day just to show off their subwoofers, I often see men with shitlocks or du-rags and fat women in gaudy leggings and those shower-cap things over their hair. When I go to the post office they have Kwanzaa and MLK posters everywhere. Could be worse I guess. I have family out in rural areas so once I get a few more things taken care of I'd like to buy some land and live out there.
Why the heck do black women wear shower caps out in public?
I've wondered the same thing, but I find that trying to look up why they do things just brings up even more questions.
I just go with mental illness, I haven't seen shower caps, not many blacks where I have to travel through in the build up areas, Muslims/Whites mainly. However I tell you what I have seen I have seen white people sometimes in their fucking dressing gown in the actual shops. These are clearly people who have just dropped all pretence of being functional human beings because even when I'm lazy I at least make sure I'm dressed in actual clothes. Some of the shit people wear even where I live is getting more and more retarded though.
wow, run.
I live in a white city with majority black surrounding cities, and it's bad enough that I want to leave.
A community the size of Texas made entirely of tenth-acre homes would fit nearly 2 billion people.
It makes it all the more remarkable how hard the WEF politicians are trying to dump into these communities that simply do not have the capacity for it infrastructure wise. One of the most basic things for me is the fact that the damn roads are clogged up like crazy purely on certain hours. It's not just that it's clearly extremely specific routes as everybody is trying to get to the exact same place.
Yes traffic congestion is a thing and this is part of life, but with where I live there's one specific route that gets clogged up between 15:00 - 19:00 ( Yes I'm being extremely autistic about that now ) and I worked out that you could simply shocker, drive around it all using the more country-esque side roads because the retards only ever go there and nowhere else as if no other roads exist. It's why I'm looking at a scooter as well because I've worked out that's probably going to make parking insanely easy to buzz in and out of areas and I only do small grocery shops usually anyway. I've just been finding it remarkable how localised it all is so I've been organising routes and shopping trips specifically to avoid all the bastards out there because it's the rush hour types and parents that drive the worse.
It's a shame there aren't more 24 hour shops in the UK because that's something I'd consider. I would have zero problems doing a 2:00am shop just because I hate dealing with all of the people that much.
I'm in the USA and agree with you in this. It's not a mystery but it is remarkable especially given the volume of land available here. I drive nearly 30 minutes at tollway speed and don't have a feasible alternative route, I can only affect it by getting a different schedule or a different job.
I live in one of the Whitest cities in the whole country. Supposedly close to 98% a decade ago. There's Indians and blacks everywhere. I can't help but notice White girls in high school dating black guys walking together by the school I pass to get to work every morning. There's way more non-Whites here than there should be by the population totals. It seems like it's probably closer to 80% when you factor in the younger pop. A lot of the Whites are old and dying and stay at home all day.
I see white THOTs and their black boyfriends like every day. Every stereotype you can imagine about that. Both the whales and the ones that just want to piss off their dad.
I also see a lot of strong white men and their white families FWIW.
I don't see the latter very much. I imagine a lot of these guys don't partake in society in a manner that makes them noticeable.
I see a lot of men I'd consider weak with their ex-slut wife who hit the wall and who runs the whole relationship. I can't help but look at all these married men and see nothing but cucks, slaves, soyboys driven around by their wife who wears the pants. It's pathetic to men. Seeing actual "strong" men that are in control of their wife and family is very rare for me.
I'm in Canada so keep that in mind. I'm told by American people I know that the situation isn't as bad in the USA but it seems like most White men I see married today are the Marvel movie soyboy types who joke about how they need to ask permission from their wife to do anything in life and they think that's cool.
I'm in the American south area, so more old fashioned, outside of the big cities. Like I married into a family with deep roots in the region, and they're very based. But I'm an outsider beyond that.
What is the media narrative around population?
Have you priced random off grid plots of land lately?
I've been poking at it and you'd be surprised how cheap some places are, now obviously, the caveat is they're cheap for a reason and these are plots of land in the middle of fucking nowhere. However if that's something you want and appreciate it would probably be worth it because I know I've gained that mentality over the years especially after BLM.
I keep wondering about foreign land though, would seriously consider getting some just so I have my own hideaway I can fuck off to that no one knows about.