Most of the “critics” sourced in the 2024 version were of course from years later… that’s the same as trying to write that a 1950s Elvis song was “panned” just because it was said to be stealing from black culture by leftist commies in the 2020s.
I have a sneaking suspicion that you won’t see this kind of revisionism for a song by a black rapper...
Boy were we naïve in the late 90s/early 00s, thinking all this technology was going to "help humanity".
Hell we even thought by making computers cheap enough and distributing them widely enough we were going to make African societies functional. I have a good laugh about that every time I think about it.
None of us realized that the internet at the time was due to selection effect and pressures acting as gatekeeping.
True. In another thread I brought up the old Jargon File and had a good laugh at the (quaintly outdated) "Politics" section where it describes hackers as "vaguely liberal-moderate, with a strong libertarian contingent".
When in reality the fact that document existed at all and then was given to people coming online with a strong encouragement to follow those pre-existing conventions suggest their political leanings were in fact something far more deeply conservative. But since they didn't want to identify themselves as icky "conservatives" they had no defense against people choosing to ignore those conventions.
When you get down to it, would an actual "liberal" or non-Hoppean libertarian care about Eternal September at all? Given their views on immigration and border security, not really.
True and I've seen indications of GG2 going that way too. Leftists realizing they might have to ally with a "conservative" then instantly doing everything they can to hyper-limit the scope of their disagreement with the mainstream left in the hope they can start attending the "respectable" cocktail parties again.
You guys didn't even have dial-up in the Midwest until the mid-late 00s? Considering the ubiquity of the AOL floppies in the mid-90s I find that hard to believe (unless it was all long-distance numbers, which I remember could be a problem).
If you were to cite 1,000 articles that say hamburgers are delicious and said 'Hamburgers are a delicious[1] food' they'd remove it because deliciousness is a subjective statement.
But they'll label anything 'far-right' as long as their "reliable sources" say so, despite it also being subjective.
"Critics" and leftist editors are just jealous they'll never be able to conjure 1/1000 the sex appeal of Emily Ratajkowski's tits. That's what this all really is. They're big mad this woman is way sexier than them and flaunts it for male gaze money.
Personally, I always thought the song sucked but I'll forever be grateful to Robin Thicke for getting to see those boobs.
Apparently the internet (or at least the normie parts of it) has been scrubbed of the “unrated” cut of the video, after Ratajkowski accused Thicke of groping her a while back, so…
Enjoy those memories, I guess!
Sadly she might be sexy, but she’s still just as entitled and bitchy as any of them, lol…
I'm honestly surprised the positive part even made it to begin with. All I've ever heard about the song was mass hate and controversy from every corner, from the usual places that are in lockstep with the critics. Like, on release I was hearing the "its pro-rape!" thing more than anything else, other than comments about the titties.
His parody "Word Crimes" uses the word "spastic" in one line, and he was later told that word is considered a slur in Europe (yeah, I know), and as a result, he changes the line when performing the song in concert.
The line remains on the official YouTube upload, however.
Most of the “critics” sourced in the 2024 version were of course from years later… that’s the same as trying to write that a 1950s Elvis song was “panned” just because it was said to be stealing from black culture by leftist commies in the 2020s.
I have a sneaking suspicion that you won’t see this kind of revisionism for a song by a black rapper...
Isn’t Pharrell Williams a black rapper?
He was the “side act” to this song, I guess? It’s a pop song by a white guy, firstly.
If you don't toe the woke line then "you ain't black".
Boy were we naïve in the late 90s/early 00s, thinking all this technology was going to "help humanity".
Hell we even thought by making computers cheap enough and distributing them widely enough we were going to make African societies functional. I have a good laugh about that every time I think about it.
Once anything becomes easy enough for normies and women to use it, it's all downhill from there.
Typical-minded fallacy. None of us realized that the internet at the time was due to selection effect and pressures acting as gatekeeping.
Then the eternal september hit, and that was that.
True. In another thread I brought up the old Jargon File and had a good laugh at the (quaintly outdated) "Politics" section where it describes hackers as "vaguely liberal-moderate, with a strong libertarian contingent".
When in reality the fact that document existed at all and then was given to people coming online with a strong encouragement to follow those pre-existing conventions suggest their political leanings were in fact something far more deeply conservative. But since they didn't want to identify themselves as icky "conservatives" they had no defense against people choosing to ignore those conventions.
When you get down to it, would an actual "liberal" or non-Hoppean libertarian care about Eternal September at all? Given their views on immigration and border security, not really.
The part about the fear of the ick factor is true about OG GG and Half KIA, too.
True and I've seen indications of GG2 going that way too. Leftists realizing they might have to ally with a "conservative" then instantly doing everything they can to hyper-limit the scope of their disagreement with the mainstream left in the hope they can start attending the "respectable" cocktail parties again.
Not that it'll work, but they certainly will try.
The internet always needed to be something you go to a specific place to use, not something you have in your pocket 24 hours/day.
That IMO is the true dividing line between Gen X and Millennial: do you remember a time before the internet?
I'm on the older end of millennial (born before 1984), and I didn't get regular internet until about 1998.
Yes, I do remember. Playing baseball on the cul-de-sac I used to live on, for example.
You guys didn't even have dial-up in the Midwest until the mid-late 00s? Considering the ubiquity of the AOL floppies in the mid-90s I find that hard to believe (unless it was all long-distance numbers, which I remember could be a problem).
Technology is a force multiplier. Anything multiplied by zero is still zero.
Stuff like this is all over wikipedia. Look at any politically contentious topic and compare the current version to old ones.
If you were to cite 1,000 articles that say hamburgers are delicious and said 'Hamburgers are a delicious[1] food' they'd remove it because deliciousness is a subjective statement.
But they'll label anything 'far-right' as long as their "reliable sources" say so, despite it also being subjective.
Wikipedia has been a far left propaganda machine for a long time now. Look up the pages for MAGA, Qanon, and Antifa if you want a good laugh
I don’t know if it’s still active but there was a Wiki-In-action Reddit page at one point.
"Critics" and leftist editors are just jealous they'll never be able to conjure 1/1000 the sex appeal of Emily Ratajkowski's tits. That's what this all really is. They're big mad this woman is way sexier than them and flaunts it for male gaze money.
Personally, I always thought the song sucked but I'll forever be grateful to Robin Thicke for getting to see those boobs.
Yeah. She does have some very nice looking tits. Skinny, big tits, pretty face. Gg.
Tbf, she was also one of the ones who “accused” Robin Thicke of shit, which led to this “controversy”…
But yes, she is definitely pretty, I’ll give you that.
Apparently the internet (or at least the normie parts of it) has been scrubbed of the “unrated” cut of the video, after Ratajkowski accused Thicke of groping her a while back, so…
Enjoy those memories, I guess!
Sadly she might be sexy, but she’s still just as entitled and bitchy as any of them, lol…
It’s fucking Wikipedia. If someone tries to use Wikipedia to convince you of something, laugh at their face.
I'm honestly surprised the positive part even made it to begin with. All I've ever heard about the song was mass hate and controversy from every corner, from the usual places that are in lockstep with the critics. Like, on release I was hearing the "its pro-rape!" thing more than anything else, other than comments about the titties.
Even Weird Al's parody isn't safe.
His parody "Word Crimes" uses the word "spastic" in one line, and he was later told that word is considered a slur in Europe (yeah, I know), and as a result, he changes the line when performing the song in concert.
The line remains on the official YouTube upload, however.