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What is a "hate campaign"?
posted 2 years ago by Galean 2 years ago by Galean +31 / -0

I was reading this article: https://archive.is/ozrZh

My question is what constitutes a "hate campaign"? If you write some anti-Trump article on reddit and then gets upvoted by 200k people, is that a hate campaign? Why isn't reddit moderating 99% of their content?

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– dzonatan 36 points 2 years ago +36 / -0

A fake word trying to paint negative backlash as unjust harassment.

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– Totsugeki 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

Not one mention in that article of the "hate campaign" Sweet Baby raised against the Steam user who created that list.

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– JuanTitor 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Privileged Americans targeting a poor Brazilian!

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

there are no bad tactics, only bad targets

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– catipillar 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Can someone please explain this Sweet Baby shit to me?

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– Totsugeki 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Sweet Baby Inc is a consulting firm hired by AAA game developers to make DIE-related changes to video games. Some Steam user from Brazil made a list of games of Sweet Baby worked on so that other gamers could avoid them. A Sweet Baby employee responded by trying to get the Brazilian's Steam account banned. This understandably pissed off a lot of gamers, the Steam list grew to 250K+ followers, the corporate media is shitting itself, and it's being called Gamergate 2.0.

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– catipillar 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Haha that’s hilarious. Thanks. I thought it had something to do with Matt Walsh.

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– MorbidlyCatatonic 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

"Hate campaigns" are usually when the general audience disagree or complain at an entity for how they've handled something or for their actions.

It almost always goes one way too; If its against "the message" then it'll also get classed as a hate campaign if it gets enough traction. But this doesn't apply in the other direction.

An example of their definition of a "hate campaign" is this whole SBI related garbage. So the CEO's and employees of SBI have been complaining that they've been targeted for harassment and are now actively getting their gaming outlet shills to say theres a hate campaign against them (When realistically its most likely a whole lot of pent up anger from gamers about the part they've played in ruining franchises) BUT- It isn't a Hate campaign against Kabrutus and his Steam curator group because he's helping highlight the issue; Even though by their definition it would be considered harassment.

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– Galean [S] 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

How I see it:

Average people not agreeing with their ideology is "hate campaign"

Elites hating average people and forcing them to accept their ideology is "activism"

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– MorbidlyCatatonic 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Elites hating average people and forcing them to accept their ideology is "activism"

They'd call this "the greater good", doing this for "your best interests" or for "being on the right side of history"

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

From my position, a actual "Hate Campaign" would be an organized attempt to (literally) harass a target with hate mail to the point that they are actually restricted from operating a normal life. It can be very closely related to a "Smear Campaign" which is explicitly defamatory.

So for example, back in the 90's, if something turned into a media circus, it's possible that the target of the reporting could be getting thousands of letters every day, thousands of phone calls every day, and even hourly visitors. Double the level of danger if most of those callers are saying shit like "I'll find you and I'll kill you". If your mail can't be delivered properly, then you can't respond to your normal bills and communications. If people won't stop calling you on the old land lines, it means you can't even make calls out of your home. If people keep coming to your door at literally all hours, you can genuinely be made to feel unsafe.

This did occasionally happen, but it was rarely organized. When it was, it was typically organized by the media. Tonya Harding is one that sticks out to me because she was locked in an apartment complex. The news basically doxed her location and it allowed people to start doing all of the above. The phone didn't stop ringing at all hours until she pulled it out of the wall. The media & papperazi surrounded her complex for days, to the point it filled out the parking lot. They then contacted and harassed the property owner; who decided that she needed to leave, and walked to the room and basically asked her to leave. She didn't feel like it was safe to come out, because of the baying journalist mob that was screaming at her through the doors and windows standing a foot or two behind the apartment manager. Then, one of them came up with the idea to call a tow-truck company and have her car towed away so that they could get pictures of her. They did exactly that, and got pictures of her basically in a disheveled state chasing after her car, while they all took billions of pictures of her, screamed at her, and then ran with the headline that she was attacking journalists because she was clearly insane.

She, obviously, Tonya Harding committed battery, but it kind of shows you the lengths that the media is willing to go. Fundamentally, they wanted pictures of her, and wanted to construct a narrative about her, so they sent out a journalist lynch mob to use any mechanism to get that. Not only that, but when you look into it, you'll see that most lynchings and race riots seem to also be directly tied to media actions. You don't hate journalists enough.

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– Adamrises 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Fundamentally, they wanted pictures of her, and wanted to construct a narrative about her, so they sent out a journalist lynch mob to use any mechanism to get that.

Reading about the lengths the media went to to try and get photos of the kids from the Josef Fritzl case is probably the most disgusting example of this.

Literally kids who had never been outside their life, who are basically rotting corpses trying to not only adjust to a lifetime of lies and torture but infinite medical issues, and the journos are stealing uniforms and pulling fucking Mission Impossible tricks to try and sneak photos of them at their most vulnerable just to sell papers.

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– Galean [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

From my position, a actual "Hate Campaign" would be an organized attempt to (literally) harass a target with hate mail to the point that they are actually restricted from operating a normal life. It can be very closely related to a "Smear Campaign" which is explicitly defamatory.

My problem with this definition is that "operating a normal life" is subjective and prone to abuse. In the case of SBI, I don't doubt that at least a few guys did insult/ threaten SBI staff as a result of the coverage the entire thing got. I expect the usual suspects to post articles with screenshots of tweets in the next few days. However this happens if you criticize anyone on the internet, I'm old enough to remember what happened if you dared criticize Disney Star Wars on main subs. I bet if I even criticize Taylor Swift on a Taylor Swift forum I'll get plenty of death threats. So where do we draw the line for what constitutes a "hate campaign" in the online medium?

Would be nice if we got an actual definition before we get a woke one where "directed against marginalized" or some other bullshit.

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– TheStupidPrizeWinner 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

if you dared criticize Disney Star Wars on main subs

It was like that almost everywhere, even outside the internet. I remember expressing my frustration to a buddy of mine at the time stating, "I cannot even say no thank you anymore! It is either all praise or you are a bigot!" as I explained why I had stopped being a Star Wars fan.

I guess divesting myself from Star Wars early to escape the brightsided narrative was a small blessing as I can only imagine how much angrier I would be at the continued defilement of a once cherished brand.

I took me a while to realize that this is on par for anything the left takes over though. Eat the shit or else.

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– deleted 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0
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– acp_k2win 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

It means "something gay commies don't like."

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– MLGS 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

It's what communists say is going on when they want to condemn something their enemies are doing in a way that normal people will respond to at a surface level.

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– milkcowhplus 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Anything that goes against the narrative, baby

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– ModsAreAIDS 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

A hate campaign is any group of people who don't bend the knee to the left.

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– nuggetpatrol 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

A hate campaign is originally developed someone that simply put a few things together and discovered something a leftist is doing. Once exposed, it gains some traction, more people see and hear about it. Suddenly they get harrassed into the ground by every friend and outlet of the discovered leftist, who lies about the things exposed.

Nevermind what was exposed, you just have to believe all the liars who cover for each other, and definitely are telling the truth this time. Don't look into it any further, you'll just see more and more connections, and that everyone is a vile sack of rotting flesh hiding behind a mask of tolerance and acceptance.

Remember that even the wikileaks founder said we were on to something during GG, and that it goes all the way to the top.

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– BoberFett 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Anything which gains traction against leftist narratives.

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– ThePipeGuy 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It's anything your average shitheel liberal doesn't like. So in current year, everything.

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– VenkaPrime 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Obviously a hate campaign is based on hate facts. A hate fact is any fact inconvenient to the narrative.

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– realerfunction 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

they should be on their knees, ugly crying, thanking us for keeping it at words.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

the phrase implies a campaign of specific and unrelenting harassment, where people go out of their way to bully the target unreasonably.

Of course, the reality is that people learned that SBI exists and weren't happy about what they do. SBI keeps trying to do damage control, and people keep responding to their nonsense. it would have all just blown over until people posted them essentially pulling off a protection racket, and now all of a sudden they need the journalist class to run interference for them because they might actually face legal action.

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– Galean [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

unrelenting harassment, bully and unreasonably are unfortunately relative terms.

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– Careless_Ejaculator 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

A hate campaign is any popular sentiment that wokeydokes find disagreeable.

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