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For background, Ghey was a transgender teenager who was killed by two other teenagers. Both were sentenced last week to life imprisonment with a minimum of 22 and 20 years respectively. They formulated their plans to kill a number of schoolchildren by befriending them and using plans they researched.
Now Ghey's mother has spoken to the BBC (who else?) to denounce the Internet as the "wild west" and calling for the state to restrict what children can view online in a way that would only work by removing access to the Internet and implementing a UK style Intranet. She also claims that it is impossible for parents to parent their children - therefore the state must intervene - by requiring all technology and what citizens see to be restricted by the state.
As we live in a time where people are treated like children by default, you are assumed to be a child by default (the Online Safety Act requires different treatment for content not "safe for kids" as an example), the desire that people need to be protected from themselves and everything must be done "for the children" and "for your own good".
For example, in North Korea, the general public have no access to the Internet. They do have access to Kwangmyong, the heavily restricted Intranet where everything citizens see and the technology used to access it is wholly controlled by the state.
Another case of not letting a tragedy go to waste.
ETA: Education Minister just told the BBC that they will be expanding age verification to all content not "safe for kids", not just pornography. Their preferred option to be introduced by 2025 is both Government Photo ID and live, on-going facial recognition. They're also not ruling out implementing an Intranet and banning the possession of technological devices for children.
Takes some gall to pretend she cared about the child she allowed to be mutilated and sterilized for popularity points in the moms Facebook group
Some background: "Brianna" Ghey (very apt last name) was a dude dressed as a girl. When he was killed, it was immediately framed as a 'hate crime' against the troons, without any evidence, and they tried to use it as a cudgel with which to beat dissenters.
Now it turned out to have nothing at all to do with the fact that he was a cross-dresser, and they're still trying to use it to attack dissent.
For reference his real first name was Brett. It turns out he was killed by a teen girl with a serial killer obsession and a simp she roped into helping her. He also wasn't their intended victim. They originally planned to kill someone else and that fell through for whatever reason.
Right. The police didn't investigate it as a hate crime until the troon activists threw a shit fit.
This reminds me of when Matthew Shepard was murdered by his meth dealer and his gay lover over a drug deal gone bad back in the 90s and the msm reported It as two homophobic rednecks lynching him for being gay.
She's on the right track: children shouldn't have unrestricted access to the internet (or rather, the internet shouldn't have unrestricted access to your children). But you don't need a special locked-down smartphone for that - just don't buy your kid a smartphone.
But shouldn't that be the role of parents and not the state, particularly one that treats everyone as children until proven otherwise?
I had largely unrestricted access to the internet from the age of 11/12 on, and that was back when it really was the wild west. It was far less dangerous back then because Discord troons grooming mentally ill kids into sexually mutilating themselves wasn't a problem back then. If the state ever wants to play a constructive role in internet safety (they don't and likely never will), shutting down tranny gathering places and enforcing antitrust laws against Big Tech would go a long way towards improving things.
I think the better solution is to go for the source of the problem.
These troons may usually be acting on their own, but their goals are often aided by leftist corrupted government and NGO programs and agencies. The medical industry, insurance companies, state and federal policies, the EU, the UN, etc etc.
You're not going to be able to go after tranny hives through Internet communities without potentially giving leftists and the state even more tools and power to abuse for their own agendas.
They were just sitting in any open IRC chat ready to pounce, things weren't all that different back then.
I believe that was the implied point Grumman was making. Parents can and should be the ones to restrict that access, not the government.
It should be the responsibility of the parents. Problem is the parents aren't being responsible parents, allowing for the problem to occur. So now enough unrelated people are having to suffer from the consequences of these retarded parents that the government stepping in seems necessary.
It's entirely a parental issue not a government one. Government should not be involved in restricting the internet, ever.
Children should be restricted and we've had a tool to do that for centuries that's highly effective: being a parent.
Why was he (I'm assuming it was mtf) given Internet access with no parental controls enabled? Why were they just allowed to go out to meet some unknown people online without an escort? So much of this seems to be incompetent parenting so need the state to come in.
And this is a state where it's police can't HANDLE violent crime so getting it's ass kicked by third worlders regularly and has let actual criminals become police because their checks are pathetic.
Accept responsibility that you got your son killed by your own inadequate parenting, and let actual predators convince him to fall into their trap. This smells like both invested parties trying to push for more control of the Internet (which ironically would lead to less and they'd probably ditch the UK so they'd lose A LOT of Internet related jobs) and someone trying to avoid the guilt of their own failures.
Their argument is more the case of 'we can't control the Internet so lets shut it down (for children - as a start, because it won't end with them) and build a new Intranet with a locked down OS and surveillance for both parents and the state'. If the UK was to do that, we'd join the likes of North Korea, Myanmar, Cuba and Iran in implementing a walled garden ecosystem - in this proposals case, for children - but we all know it won't end there.
And I suspect the BBC is pushing this heavily because that would be a whole swathe of competition gone for eyes, ear and challenges to their narrative.
The BBC has no allies, they're hated by the left for not being as extreme left as them, the right for their huge bias and normies for their shit programming. From what I hear from my UK friends, the licence fee is being more treated as the same as a streaming service fee with people no longer paying it because the service is shit.
A walled garden approach is too late, and I imagine many global actors would actually be scared to encourage that on a Western country. Not for the backlash of this affecting their social media addicted drones but what if other countries that they DON'T have influence on copy it. What if India, Japan or even states like Florida follow suit. It ends with a fragmentation which they don't want since it means their 'global peer pressure' program using social media no longer is effective.
I suspect it would be a hybrid approach if they did follow through on this - Intranet only for the general public with companies being the middleman for any content that needs to be fetched from the Internet, all vetted and licensed by Ofcom. Private companies with Internet usage policies would have restricted Internet access for business. Only Government officials and the three letter agencies would have unregulated and full access to the Internet.
Probably but knowing how shit they are with cyber security we'll be able to easily get round it like a box asking us if we're over 18 on a porn site.
The younger ones might have a problem as thanks to smartphones and the like their tech skills are being dumbed down thanks to the simplicity of it all, which when they are hired for cyber security makes it even worse.
I'm pretty sure the people who killed him were his classmates. I think the mother just wants to shut down criticism of herself and her dead son's degenerate fetish.
I just hear a mother projecting her failings onto everyone else.
You had a gullible kid, they got murdered.
I'm glad the murderers are serving time and hope that it's awful for them.
Instead of shirking your responsibility in all of this tell other parents to make sure their kids don't meet up with strangers and share their thoughts about what they've been up to on the Internet with you.
The kid that didn't get killed was smart enough to not die, maybe their parents can talk about parenting children in the ag of social media.
Lol she was a single mom
I’m so old I remember Jamie Bulger was killed by other children and that was before the internet!
And one of those monsters should of gotten the death penalty when he became an adult as he became more of a pedo.
Again, swing and a miss.
They'll forever try banning or restricting things and then wonder how kids are still being exposed to nasty shit online.
Kids are banned from smoking, drinking and vaping but they still do it. Restricting internet access will do fuck all.
It's not about the kids, they want to enforce ID on everyone so they can hunt dissenters who dare question them. It isn't the first time they've tried pushing it; but they're hoping this ghey individual can be the figurehead to get enough normies to back it.
It's interesting how they don't acknowledge that murderers have been around for a significantly longer period than social media.
Restrictions pretty much never work, educating kids on social media and to be "street wise" is more valuable.
As a kid I remember being approached by a predator pretending to be my age online. I still didn't arrange to meet up with them.
A blacklist policy will never work. You play a never-ending game of whack-a-mole. What is being advocated now is a whitelist approach - banned by default unless explicitly allowed. It's why I bring up North Korea's Kwangmyong though the UK if it were to seriously go down this road would probably not go down that far. More likely a tiered hybrid Internet/Intranet system determined by status.
The one big problem for the Government will be Starlink. Will Elon comply with the Government's wishes or dissent even if it means the can't legally receive payment from UK citizens?
Accidentally based and Uncle Ted Pilled.
Until they consider adults to be grown-up children and then impose that same thing on everyone else.
I said it was already based, you don't need to sell it to me more.
Sucking off an ever expanding state is not based, and never will be, especially when those expanding powers will very quickly be used against you.
Even with an expanded 'Online Safety Act' the troon teen would have still fallen victim to transsexual groomers, as it's a government-sponsored predator ideology of the ruling elite. It's part of their luxury belief system. If you're not targeted by online trannies, you'll still be targeted and groomed by your own high school.
If the troon had gotten proper psychiatric help from the school system, he might still be alive.
reminder to never give digital ID an inch, because this is where it leads. we have the technology to easily be able to restrict unsafe content at the network level for individual routers, parents need to be educated on it and use it.
https://cleanbrowsing.org/solutions/parents/
"Parenting is too hard, do it for me"
Haha, no.
No, you see, when we say it takes a village to raise a child, that does not mean jail each individual villager until you feel safe.