Turbine blade failures are something which simply has to be accepted as a statistical likelihood. They're going to happen, because we're building machines that push materials and physics to the limits of endurance.
If you're uncomfortable with it, don't step in a machine that relies on something rotating at 20k rpm.
Those machines that were designed and built by competent white men are now being maintained by companies that care more about filling diversity quotas than merit.
No amount of inspections will eliminate turbine blade failures. Too many inspections will probably increase them. But every time one happens, the conclusion will be that it could have been caught. Because although people will readily accept risk and carry on, authorities which exist to mitigate problems can never adopt that as their official stance. It would negate their reason for existing.
Boeing ramped down production of 747s for decades. It's actually extremely difficult contract-wise to shut down the entire supply line for one of these planes. Plus, even though they aren't used in commercial air traffic much any more, they were still profitable because every few years they were able to sell a new Air Force One marked up 1000% to the US taxpayers.
747s were designed as freighters first and even when most airlines switched to two engine aircraft, 747s were continued to be made as freighters because they're a good design for freight. Only two VC-25s were ever built, in the late 80s. And no, the replacement VC-25s are not profitable for Boeing. Boeing has lost more than a billion dollars on each plane so far.
I don’t know the entire history of 747 production, but I do know they officially delivered the final 747 off the production line January 31st of 2023. It got some coverage in the aviation press at the time.
The article I have says that, as of 2020, they were only producing half a plane a month. And the last one went to Atlas Air.
Only -8s and -8Fs. Freighter versions of the 747 will be flying for 50 years yet, fulfilling the original design criteria of being easily convertible to freighters, for when the supersonic passenger planes became an everyday thing.
Youtuber Mentour Pilot and a few others are speaking of a culture of subcontracting things at Boeing instead of making things in-house that have lead to these quality issues.
That can still fall within the competency crisis because they have to sub-contract, and the competency crisis can still emerge as a result of the sub-contractors. Wakanda Women Aircraft Repair may offer the cheapest repairs, but you probably shouldn't take them.
Your house, even your car, isn't built by a single manufacturer. Everything is sub-contracted. If your sub-contractors aren't meeting your quality requirements, that's your responsibility to identify.
I fail to see how Wakanda Women Aeronautics doesn't meet with investor-friendly performance metrics in DIE, thus still perpetuating a competency crisis.
Depending on trajectory, speed and mass, instead of dealing with a plane crashing near you, you'll be dealing with flaming shrapnel falling from the sky at high speed..
Not to defend Boeing, but they don’t make aircraft engines. It’s possible Boeing will take some blame for the nacelle or shroud not containing the failure but the lion’s share is likely to go to maintenance and/or manufacturing (GE or their suppliers).
The competency crisis is a thing for major corporate and institutional structures.
It's like saying, "I can't believe the food at McDonalds is so poor."
You need to find independent, privately owned, alternatives. They will come with added price, but you need to take that into consideration. You should be eating meat from a farmers market, not McDonalds, every day.
Oil companies thought they could charge whatever they wanted for gas... right up until people reduced their driving habits by 30%. Then, all of the sudden, for no reason at all, gas stopped being $125 / barrel.
No matter how woke, at a certain point, these companies die when you find alternatives. The only reason many of them survive is because your retirement fund, 401k, pension fund, tax money, and a large portion of your savings account is going to keeping them afloat.
It's also the current board of directors and CEO of Boeing. It's not an engineering company anymore. It's a DEI hellscape full of backstabbing, stupid women, niggers, and pajeet street-shitters.
What's going on? Why is this happening now?
Uncontained engine failure on an 8 year old aircraft.
A turbine blade detached upwards, punching a hole in the wing.
Happens. Atlas is probably skimping on blade inspections.
Turbine blade failures are something which simply has to be accepted as a statistical likelihood. They're going to happen, because we're building machines that push materials and physics to the limits of endurance.
If you're uncomfortable with it, don't step in a machine that relies on something rotating at 20k rpm.
Those machines that were designed and built by competent white men are now being maintained by companies that care more about filling diversity quotas than merit.
Admiral Cloudberg recently covered the Qantas 32 incident (also an uncontained disc failure, but on an Airbus A380):
“For engineering purposes, disk fragments are assumed to have infinite energy at the moment of release; they will cut through any reasonable material and cannot be contained.”
"Yeah I try to avoid flying."
"Lol wtf is wrong with you planes are perfectly safe."
Did you miss "Atlas is probably skimping on blade inspections"? He's not saying human failure played no role.
Both interpretations are true.
No amount of inspections will eliminate turbine blade failures. Too many inspections will probably increase them. But every time one happens, the conclusion will be that it could have been caught. Because although people will readily accept risk and carry on, authorities which exist to mitigate problems can never adopt that as their official stance. It would negate their reason for existing.
I don't mean in this specific case. This was a 747, so it surprises me if it was 8 year old.
It just seems to be happening a lot in the past few months.
Registration N859GT, manufactured 2015.
Amazing, and props for having the receipts. I thought Boeing wasn't producing 747's for a while.
Boeing ramped down production of 747s for decades. It's actually extremely difficult contract-wise to shut down the entire supply line for one of these planes. Plus, even though they aren't used in commercial air traffic much any more, they were still profitable because every few years they were able to sell a new Air Force One marked up 1000% to the US taxpayers.
747s were designed as freighters first and even when most airlines switched to two engine aircraft, 747s were continued to be made as freighters because they're a good design for freight. Only two VC-25s were ever built, in the late 80s. And no, the replacement VC-25s are not profitable for Boeing. Boeing has lost more than a billion dollars on each plane so far.
I don’t know the entire history of 747 production, but I do know they officially delivered the final 747 off the production line January 31st of 2023. It got some coverage in the aviation press at the time.
The article I have says that, as of 2020, they were only producing half a plane a month. And the last one went to Atlas Air.
Only -8s and -8Fs. Freighter versions of the 747 will be flying for 50 years yet, fulfilling the original design criteria of being easily convertible to freighters, for when the supersonic passenger planes became an everyday thing.
Youtuber Mentour Pilot and a few others are speaking of a culture of subcontracting things at Boeing instead of making things in-house that have lead to these quality issues.
Meh.
That can still fall within the competency crisis because they have to sub-contract, and the competency crisis can still emerge as a result of the sub-contractors. Wakanda Women Aircraft Repair may offer the cheapest repairs, but you probably shouldn't take them.
Your house, even your car, isn't built by a single manufacturer. Everything is sub-contracted. If your sub-contractors aren't meeting your quality requirements, that's your responsibility to identify.
Boeing subcontracted because management is obsessed with investor-friendly performance metrics, even at the expense of long term viability.
I fail to see how Wakanda Women Aeronautics doesn't meet with investor-friendly performance metrics in DIE, thus still perpetuating a competency crisis.
Boeing subcontracts because the Boeing union has made it nearly impossible to hire or fire anyone.
That's just about every company now.
So time to revise my 'cabin in the woods' retirement plan to 'living in tunnels' as the skies and everything below them are in danger thanks to DEI!
Disregard human. Embrace Dorf.
Diggy diggy hole..
I am a dwarf, and I'm digging a hole
Should I get anti-aircraft weapons? Maybe some of those energy weapons from the navy?
Depending on trajectory, speed and mass, instead of dealing with a plane crashing near you, you'll be dealing with flaming shrapnel falling from the sky at high speed..
DIE is really starting to live up to its acronym.
Not to defend Boeing, but they don’t make aircraft engines. It’s possible Boeing will take some blame for the nacelle or shroud not containing the failure but the lion’s share is likely to go to maintenance and/or manufacturing (GE or their suppliers).
The competency crisis is a thing for major corporate and institutional structures.
It's like saying, "I can't believe the food at McDonalds is so poor."
You need to find independent, privately owned, alternatives. They will come with added price, but you need to take that into consideration. You should be eating meat from a farmers market, not McDonalds, every day.
It's a thing for infrastructure, which is why it's concerning. There is no independent, bespoke alternative to Boeing.
This is where supplements come in: drive a car.
Oil companies thought they could charge whatever they wanted for gas... right up until people reduced their driving habits by 30%. Then, all of the sudden, for no reason at all, gas stopped being $125 / barrel.
No matter how woke, at a certain point, these companies die when you find alternatives. The only reason many of them survive is because your retirement fund, 401k, pension fund, tax money, and a large portion of your savings account is going to keeping them afloat.
Ah, ah. They can't kill us all if we [REDACTED] them first.
MH 370 more like MH LGBT
It's also the current board of directors and CEO of Boeing. It's not an engineering company anymore. It's a DEI hellscape full of backstabbing, stupid women, niggers, and pajeet street-shitters.
I stopped flying when the TSA started only giving you the choice between getting irradiated or hand raped.
As long as they don't hit my house or office this is all just entertainment for me.
Blaming Boeing for the GE engine failure is like blaming GM for a faulty Bosch fuel pump.