This is in addition to the three hostages shot and killed by the IDF after their “misidentification” while waving a white flag and shouting in hebrew earlier last month
devil's advocate: hamas and other islamist militants do use dirty tactics like false surrender all the time. IDF soldiers are probably ordered to shoot anyone who tries to get close on sight.
Apparently in the instance I refer to, the superior officer had given orders not to fire, because they were responding to some kind of SOS - the article was paywalled and on haaretz though so make of that what you will lol
Why is Israel using poison gas when it's one of the most indiscriminate weapons there are? Of course you're going to kill people you don't want killed (unless it was their plan all along to kill more hostages, which is highly likely now that I think about it).
Multiple survivors have talked about how when the army finally showed up to the music festival and the kibbutzim they were firing indiscriminately on anything that moved, often from helicopter gunships. I wonder how much of the death toll that day was self-inflicted.
Projection also runs deep in this conflict. You hear endlessly about how hamas uses human shields and provokes violence solely to generate “sympathy”, but it’s like mirrors don’t exist in that country. Both claims have been PROVEN to apply to israel just as much if not more so. Like so many of their projections.
I think it was all pre-planned - Israel plans years ahead and knows that it must manipulate public opinion. The entire Hamas attack was orchestrated by Israel. Cui Bono.
Russia deliberately neutered their operations in order to minimize civilian casualties, and they were branded as both “impotent and inept failures” and “‘metaphysically evil genocidal monsters”.
Israel just bombs hospitals and kills thousands of kids in order to take out their enemies, and if you cry foul you are accused of anti-Semitism and branded a terrorist sympathizer.
If it was poison gas, it was likely an "accidental" one, like CO leeching from active troop vehicles just happening to be idling by major airflow entrances and settling into the lower tunnels. Entirely accidentally, of course.
If you want to loot the bodies, you don't use actual "poison" gas. Too dangerous to your own troops. And Isreal proved it's all about looting that body yo, with their new land development projects already being proposed before the ground is even cooled from the mortar fire.
Now, actual poison, instead of gas, just poisoned food or something, sure. That's effective in killing people, and any aide food would likely be shared/tested on the PoWs first.
Weaponized chemical agents work pretty fast, to the point you really won't have time to react. Specifically nerve gas. It's going to be pretty obvious from the injuries that it was a nerve agent. Dead bodies looking bad is not enough. A corpse's face rests in weird ways that look frightening. That's not indicative of anything.
Gas bombs would also be particularly stupid, when if you were going to deliver gas, you would do it carefully, like the Americans did in Vietnam. With troops on the ground. One of the reasons you really want to be sure about where your gas is going, is best exemplified by stories from WW1 like All Quiet On The Western Front. Just because the enemy is dead, it doesn't mean that the gas is inert. It could settle and stay there.
Then, of course, there's the possibility of gas actually killing people, but it not being poison gas at all. Carbon dioxide or monoxide build-up in tunnels needs to be accounted for. If the ventilation system stops, there's a good chance everyone in that tunnel inevitably suffocates.
On top of that, there are better weapons than gas for tunnel networks. Like bulldozers and thermobaric bombs. Thermobaric bombs aren't even a war-crime.
At this point anyone like you, who dismisses the very high likelihood that gunships and tanks caused most of the deaths in kibbutzes and at the festival, is just obviously jewish or jew-paid. There is no way you are this fucking retarded, unless you're also octo-vaxxed.
Yeah, I don't take peoples word for shit. Regardless of who they are. There'd be some fuckin evidence of this shit if it existed. You're just swallowing whatever fits your narrative.
This footage plus this footage works for me. Hey as a deboonking tip, why don't you START by explaining the cars towards the end of the lot pan (23s onward) which are totally unburnt yet still utterly destroyed. Anything less is obvious shill shit, don't bother. Nobody is going to believe hamas beat those cars up with baseball bats, it was obviously the aftermath of a 30mm cannon.
Also try dismissing gunship pilot testimony that they were oh so confused by hamas, that they didn't know what to fire on.
I don't know who is who
The festival goers filmed the paragliders incoming right?
Well, should be no problem for you to show at least a portion of the 250+ massacred by hamas soon after. I assume your video(s) will be in your reply. Personally I scoured the net for videos and I saw footage of something like 12 civilian kills total, no more than 1 at the festival.
I haven't been paying that close of attention to a foreign war. Not like that response has anything to do with poison gas, though.
Typically, the Islamists have shown themselves to be happy to use civilians and hostages as human shields. I wouldn't be surprised if it is Hamas' primary objective to get the IDF to accidentally kill the hostages.
This is in addition to the three hostages shot and killed by the IDF after their “misidentification” while waving a white flag and shouting in hebrew earlier last month
devil's advocate: hamas and other islamist militants do use dirty tactics like false surrender all the time. IDF soldiers are probably ordered to shoot anyone who tries to get close on sight.
Apparently in the instance I refer to, the superior officer had given orders not to fire, because they were responding to some kind of SOS - the article was paywalled and on haaretz though so make of that what you will lol
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-21/ty-article/.premium/investigation-into-killing-of-israeli-hostages-by-idf-reveals-a-string-of-errors-and-flaws/0000018c-890c-d60e-afdf-ed0ec51e0000
"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make."
Why is Israel using poison gas when it's one of the most indiscriminate weapons there are? Of course you're going to kill people you don't want killed (unless it was their plan all along to kill more hostages, which is highly likely now that I think about it).
Multiple survivors have talked about how when the army finally showed up to the music festival and the kibbutzim they were firing indiscriminately on anything that moved, often from helicopter gunships. I wonder how much of the death toll that day was self-inflicted.
Projection also runs deep in this conflict. You hear endlessly about how hamas uses human shields and provokes violence solely to generate “sympathy”, but it’s like mirrors don’t exist in that country. Both claims have been PROVEN to apply to israel just as much if not more so. Like so many of their projections.
I think it was all pre-planned - Israel plans years ahead and knows that it must manipulate public opinion. The entire Hamas attack was orchestrated by Israel. Cui Bono.
Russia deliberately neutered their operations in order to minimize civilian casualties, and they were branded as both “impotent and inept failures” and “‘metaphysically evil genocidal monsters”.
Israel just bombs hospitals and kills thousands of kids in order to take out their enemies, and if you cry foul you are accused of anti-Semitism and branded a terrorist sympathizer.
So they can pad their numbers like the 6 gorillion.
If it was poison gas, it was likely an "accidental" one, like CO leeching from active troop vehicles just happening to be idling by major airflow entrances and settling into the lower tunnels. Entirely accidentally, of course.
If you want to loot the bodies, you don't use actual "poison" gas. Too dangerous to your own troops. And Isreal proved it's all about looting that body yo, with their new land development projects already being proposed before the ground is even cooled from the mortar fire.
Now, actual poison, instead of gas, just poisoned food or something, sure. That's effective in killing people, and any aide food would likely be shared/tested on the PoWs first.
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Why does it use White Phosphorous ? Because Israel and jews are Cunts that believe everyone else isn't a real human.
didn't we threaten to invade Syria over their alleged use of chemical weapons? Why does Israel get a pass?
War crimes only matter if you lose.
apparently
I seriously doubt anyone is using poison gas.
Weaponized chemical agents work pretty fast, to the point you really won't have time to react. Specifically nerve gas. It's going to be pretty obvious from the injuries that it was a nerve agent. Dead bodies looking bad is not enough. A corpse's face rests in weird ways that look frightening. That's not indicative of anything.
Gas bombs would also be particularly stupid, when if you were going to deliver gas, you would do it carefully, like the Americans did in Vietnam. With troops on the ground. One of the reasons you really want to be sure about where your gas is going, is best exemplified by stories from WW1 like All Quiet On The Western Front. Just because the enemy is dead, it doesn't mean that the gas is inert. It could settle and stay there.
Then, of course, there's the possibility of gas actually killing people, but it not being poison gas at all. Carbon dioxide or monoxide build-up in tunnels needs to be accounted for. If the ventilation system stops, there's a good chance everyone in that tunnel inevitably suffocates.
On top of that, there are better weapons than gas for tunnel networks. Like bulldozers and thermobaric bombs. Thermobaric bombs aren't even a war-crime.
How many Oct 7th hostages do you think have died at the hands of the IDF so far? How many during the events of the 7th?
Buddy, you think the IDF was using gunships on the music festival. You're nuttier that squirrel shit, or you don't know what a gunship is.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTQcjyhPOIk
Take it up with the survivors, faggot
Oh, so now the jews are telling the truth?
This is a thoroughly retarded comment.
This is a thoroughly retarded comment.
Which news agency is linked in the OP?
Save your braindead philosemitism for someone who gives a shit
Thanks for letting me know you're retarded
At this point anyone like you, who dismisses the very high likelihood that gunships and tanks caused most of the deaths in kibbutzes and at the festival, is just obviously jewish or jew-paid. There is no way you are this fucking retarded, unless you're also octo-vaxxed.
Oh yeah man, gunships and tanks firing on a music festival. Definitely wouldn't be any footage of that floating around, just the word of a "hostage"
Oh, so now the jews arent telling the truth?
Nuttier than chunky peanut butter. BaNaNaS!!!! BoNkErZ!!
Hypocritical retard
Yeah, I don't take peoples word for shit. Regardless of who they are. There'd be some fuckin evidence of this shit if it existed. You're just swallowing whatever fits your narrative.
You're a leftist
Blow it out your ass you schlomosexual
This footage plus this footage works for me. Hey as a deboonking tip, why don't you START by explaining the cars towards the end of the lot pan (23s onward) which are totally unburnt yet still utterly destroyed. Anything less is obvious shill shit, don't bother. Nobody is going to believe hamas beat those cars up with baseball bats, it was obviously the aftermath of a 30mm cannon.
Also try dismissing gunship pilot testimony that they were oh so confused by hamas, that they didn't know what to fire on.
The festival goers filmed the paragliders incoming right? Well, should be no problem for you to show at least a portion of the 250+ massacred by hamas soon after. I assume your video(s) will be in your reply. Personally I scoured the net for videos and I saw footage of something like 12 civilian kills total, no more than 1 at the festival.
I haven't been paying that close of attention to a foreign war. Not like that response has anything to do with poison gas, though.
Typically, the Islamists have shown themselves to be happy to use civilians and hostages as human shields. I wouldn't be surprised if it is Hamas' primary objective to get the IDF to accidentally kill the hostages.
I feel like you don't know your crowd...
What makes you say that
YOUNG MAN WE LOVE ISRAEL 'ROUND HERE I GAVE MY WHOLE PENSION TO ISRAEL, YEEHAW~!
Media never seems to talk about those few hostages that got released early (before the big swap). One was clearly a paid off ransom.