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The Hill: Israel KNEW About Hamas Attack Plan A YEAR AGO
posted 2 years ago by GiveThemNothing 2 years ago by GiveThemNothing +33 / -0

Netanyahu's government received detailed plans for Hamas attack a full year in advance.

https://youtu.be/75UiLhKhoPk

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– Grumman 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

The translated document, which was reviewed by The New York Times, did not set a date for the attack

To take advantage of what they knew, they'd have to either treat the plan as casus belli for a preemptive attack on their terms or enact countermeasures that they could keep up for years at a time. I don't think a simple heightened state of alertness is practical when you have no idea if or when Hamas is going to make that plan a reality.

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– LauriThorne 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Having intelligence that Hamas has some terrorist plot at some point in the future used to be called "common knowledge"

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– ghostfox1_ 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah, but jews bad so use something to attack them regardless of reality.

You're completely correct though. If they attacked, you'd get the usual screeching from the usual suspects. And if they did more border control/etc, you'd also get the screeching.

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– Vicious_snek6 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I don't think a simple heightened state of alertness is practical

What about just not taking 8-20+ hours to respond for a nation with national service. It doesn't make sense. There should have been a plan for response far more rapid for any invasion. That's basic stuff for an army in the situation they are in.

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– GiveThemNothing [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

... when you have no idea if or when Hamas is going to make that plan a reality.

How about when your own IDF units warned that Hamas are training to execute the very same operation detailed in the previous report, just a couple of weeks before the attack?

One of the soldiers, identified only as Ilana, told Haaretz that troops observed Hamas terrorists training to take over an observation post amid unusually high drone activity.

“In the last two months, they started sending up drones every day, sometimes several times a day, right near the border, some 300 meters from the fence, and sometimes less than that,” she said.

“A month and a half before the war, we saw that in one of the Hamas training camps they had built an exact, scaled model of an observer’s position, like the one we operate. They started training there with drones to hit the [machine gun] shooter,” Ilana said.

Ilana said that when the attack started, terrorists used drones to hit their positions using the same methods as they had been observed training.

Haaretz

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– NatalieBiden 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Netanyahu is now more popular than ever…

Imagine if he said “this happened because of our intelligence failures. We were warned about this for months by Egypt”

He would be removed in a week.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

The Hamas attack put a freeze on the protesting and such, but Netanyahu is eating a lot of blame for the attack. His political prospects look bleak.

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– undecidedmask2 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Netanyahu and the Israeli Supreme Court have been rewriting the Israeli constitution and consolidating power for the past year, weakening the legislature in the process. Israel was starting to approach serious civil unrest with the amount of protests against him. How convenient that Hamas attacks, he gets to keep his alterations to the government (which a successor will take advantage of) and everyone loves him now.

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– Socalwackjob 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Oh brother, I can't even.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Anyone have an archivable source for this, i.e., from a newspaper outlet?

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– FrozeInFear 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This seems to be the NYT article the Hill video cited: https://archive.is/OCfvq
There was also a recent discussion here on a Jerusalem Post article that might be related to this: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17rmA60bfL/x/c/

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– NoEyesNoGroin 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you

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– deleted 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0
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– current_horror 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Pearl Harbor round 3.

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– deleted 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0
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– daberoniandcheese 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Gulf of Tonkin incident, USS Maine, the list goes on.

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– SarcasticRidley 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Now that I think about it, I don't think we have had a single war with a foreign nation that there wasn't some kind of false flag preceding it since the Civil War, except maybe Korea.

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– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

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