DISNEY animated films (1996 vs. 2023)
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What you’re seeing is the lowest common denominator effect. Everything must be low iq as possible, this is why pop is used instead of classical, why prose is ditched for whatever the fuck that was.
Are you specifically implying the quality has dropped because they are catering to a "dumber audience"? I'd argue it's because the "people" producing it aren't capable of better.
These people are afraid of AI because a random number generator could make better content.
This is the flaw of pop culture. Everything is designed for the masses, including the lowest common denominator... Which has gotten more numerous and lower in nature. The classics came from or were based on high culture, which is people emulating an elite that possessed noblesse oblige.
And this is why the movie has absolutely bombed. Some of the activist vampires were paid for minimal work and will be forgotten but rich. Others will fall upward until there is literally no money left in Hollywood.
On top of the animation, modern pop music is shit. I've been noticing how chimp culture has affected everything. Lyrics, melodies, rhythms, everything has been dragged down to the lowest common denominator. And it's everywhere. All forms of entertainment are infested with crappy pop music: movies, TV, TV commercials, even theater. How many movies and musicals are "reimagining" an older work into a hip hop nightmare?
It's writing in general. If you listen and you don't have to listen too close to tell, you'll hear modern syntax being shoe horned into dialogue where it doesn't fit.
Star wars is my go to. Compare lines like "at last we will reveal ourselves. At last we will have revenge" with "we gotta take out that tower you with me?"
I've noticed that as well. Throwing in pop culture references and current slang rather than dialog of the relevant society, station, or time period.
Marvel movies made it quite obvious over their decade long run. It was particularly jarring for Thor and Loki's dialog. They started as regal characters, rulers of a planet, and they spoke like it. Over time, both of those characters started speaking like teenagers, their dialog consisted of internet memes strung together rather than the developed characters they started as.
That seems to be a feature of culture generally these days. People just quip memes and cultural references back and forth to one another rather than actually converse. I've caught myself doing it, and try to consciously avoid it, at least when having a meaningful conversation. To some extent that's just how communication and the conveyance of ideas works, but it's definitely a crutch and not very creative. Especially if you're trying to write something new. I guess that's the difference between art and "content", another word I have come to despise...
...did they actually do the kinetic word thing in the movie? Please say no. Please?
Everything I’ve seen on this clip is that the 2023 “footage” is from a singalong video, not the actual movie.
Given that Elemental was blatant race-mixing propaganda, this is blatant get-whitey propaganda. They're saying we hoard all the stuff and refuse to share (the irony being the left defends the actual hoarders). Typical Kulak style rhetoric. Buy guns and ammo.
I don't even like Disney but that first one "slapped" as the kids say. 2nd one made me want to rip my brain out.
Hunchback was a very different tone than a lot of Disney stuff. A lot of that era was imo.
Not referring to the quality (which was infinitely better), but how the movie treated subjects and what was used as set pieces.
Hunchback especially was probably the 'darkest' movie, but better for it. That song was called "hellfire" I'm pretty sure.
I think it was the tail end of the don bluth influence. Darker films, beautiful yet gritty art and animation. Long before today's 'happy plastic sludge'
Hellfire, sung by the classic villainous voice Tony Jay (RIP).
I'm pretty sure Black Cauldron was darker than Hunchback.
I never got to see it, so couldn't tell you.
The product of writers being chosen for ideology than talent, there's a huge lack of nuance nowadays that in the past when you had the villain have character and even a point, now they just make them so obnoxious that it's bland.
The villains or the main characters?
[I'm expecting the answer is "YES!"]
It's a vicious cycle because forcing ideological crap into the product, and diversity quotas and social justice pledges on your team drives out talented artists. Long-term fans notice and leave forever. The business suffers. To make up for this the company now virtue signals harder to show just how good and progressive they are, and tells investors that any failings are actually the result of a bigoted trolls. They hire more woke staff and inject more ideological crap into the product to target a "new audience" that doesn't exist.
It's really hard to compare a big budget nearly fully hand drawn movie like Hunchback of Notre Dame that had Tony Jay belting out that song when he was in his late 80s to a low budget sing along thing.
But the quality has dropped across the board. It's not just nostalgia talking.
I don't know what I was expecting on Wish, but it certainly wasn't "80% words filling the screen."
Why are you pretending 'The Hunchback' was a good animation movie, though? It was always a second grade feature with a progressive subtext, like most of those nineties movies.
The problem with 'Wish' is that it's a global village fantasy featuring a black lead and 'multicultural' citizens in a European based society. Not to mention that the 'evil villain' is a white man.
It's revisionistic trash, because yes, children are influenced by this garbage.
Both of them are questionable. The first one is typical overwrought theater/musical acting, whereas the second one is too slick for its own good.
You're picking a religious based film and a priest dealing with his sin ... and a spoiled brat of a prince bitching about not getting a piece of ass.
Apples and Oranges.
In that case let's compare it to Scar's be prepared. What a surprise, nu-Disney is still shit
"Remember when this bakery made apple fritters instead of shit cakes?"
"Come on, man, you can't be comparing apple fritters to shit cakes. They are completely different things."
That's the point! They used to make apples, now they make oranges. It's exactly comparing apples and oranges! The old thing is not like the new thing.
"This apple is a bit citrusy..." "That's because it's not an apple, it's an orange!"
"This classic disney movie is a bit brain-dead poppy..." "That's because it's not classic, it's modern disney!"